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hello MBAhereIcome,

Do consider posting in PS Section ( gmat-problem-solving-ps-140/ ) as this is dedicated for DS questions.


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A good way to think of this is that a is much further away from zero than b is. a is much "stronger" thanb is. With that you can deduce option 2 as true.

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|a| > |b|

1. ab>0

need not be true . when a>0,b<0 ab<0

2. |a|+b >0

Must be true.

when a , b are of same sign , |a|+b>0

when a is +ve, b is -ve , |a|+b>0 as |a|>|b|

when a is -ve, b is +ve, |a|+b>0

when a is -ve, b is -ve , |a|+b>0 as |a|>|b|


3. a+|b|>0

Need not be true. when a<0,b>0 and |a|>|b|, a+|b|<0

4. |b|/a >0

Need not be true. when a<0,b>0 and |a|>|b|, |b|/a<0

5. |a|b>0

Need not be true. when b<0 ,|a|b<0

Answer is B.
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Hello. I dont quite get this question.

1. for |a| we have 2 options ... a or -a
2. for |b| we have 2 options ... b or -b

Option A says ab>0

so if we do a x b ... this will always be >0

a x -b <0,but that is not the same as a x b

he is asking specifically for a x b

Option B says |a| + b>0

this wd mean a + b .... which wd be >0
or
-a + b .... which wd be <0

am i reading the question wrong??
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Hello. I dont quite get this question.

1. for |a| we have 2 options ... a or -a
2. for |b| we have 2 options ... b or -b

Option A says ab>0

so if we do a x b ... this will always be >0

a x -b <0,but that is not the same as a x b

he is asking specifically for a x b

Option B says |a| + b>0

this wd mean a + b .... which wd be >0
or
-a + b .... which wd be <0

am i reading the question wrong??


Hi Mansoor,

Bunuel has given you a comprehensive solution.

Another approach is to consider 2 different positive integers (absolute values). Now option B is saying add either the negative or positive value of the smaller number to the bigger and the result is positive. This is going to always be true, hence the question is answered. Take 2 and 5 for example, 5+2 and 5-2 are always going to be positive i.e greater than 0.

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\(|a| > |b|\)


A. \(ab > 0\)

Not true when one of the numbers is NEGATIVE (Take \(x = -4\) & \(y = 3\))

B. \(|a| + b > 0\)

TRUE for all values (Take \(x = -4\) &\(y = 3\) or \(x = 4\) & \(y = -2\) or \(x = -4\)& \(y -3\))

C. \(a + |b| > 0\)

Not true when when a is NEGATIVE and b is positive (Take \(x = -4\) & \(y = 3\))

D. \(\frac{|b|}{a} > 0\)

Not true when when a is NEGATIVE (Take \(x = -4\) & \(y = 3\))

E. \(|a|*b > 0\)

Not true when when b is NEGATIVE (Take \(x = 4\) & \(y = -3\))

Hence, Answer is B
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Thank you all for your replies. And yes, I understand what you are saying.

I realized the mistake i was making: when it wrote ab>0, i assumed that he meant the case when |a|=a ... i thought he wd write -a if |a|=-a.

Whereas in actuality, his references to a or b simply mean whatever the case maybe , ie. 'a' could be +a or -a.

Thanks Everyone!!!!!
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If \(|a| > |b|\), which of the following must be true?


A. \(ab > 0\)

B. \(|a| + b > 0\)

C. \(a + |b| > 0\)

D. \(\frac{|b|}{a} > 0\)

E. \(|a|*b > 0\)


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|a|>|b| so a is a bigger number than b, regardless of their signs. e.g. a=5, b=-2 OR a=-8, b=7.

a) not true if b<0 & a>0
b) TRUE. e.g.|5|-4>0 OR |-8|+7>0
c) incorrect if a<0. the sum will always be negative in this case
d) not true if a<0
e) not true if b<0

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Not a very foul-proof approach, but definitely time-saving.

I picked two random integers, namely a=-3 and b=2 and checked the answer choices.

Then when I noticed B to be most likely correct, I picked some other numbers and the answer still stand.
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If |a|>|b|, which of the following must be true?


A. ab>0
-a and b can have different signs and this would be violated

B. |a|+b>0 CORRECT

C. a+|b|>0
-a can be negative and this would be violated

D. |b|/a>0
-a can be negative here

E. |a|∗b>0
-b can be negative
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Not a very foul-proof approach, but definitely time-saving.

I picked two random integers, namely a=-3 and b=2 and checked the answer choices.

Then when I noticed B to be most likely correct, I picked some other numbers and the answer still stand.
baldururikson, picking numbers might not be the best approach for a must be true question. Definitely works efficiently for a could be true question.
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I am not able to understand after reading so much!
what if |a| is -a and b is -b then we have |a| + b < 0, right?

if we are saying b can't be -b given the sign, then in that case it is correct.

but the option C where, a > -b and a > b always holds true as well since a > b.
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Since, |a| > |b|

The distance of a from 0 on the number line is always going to be greater than the distance of b from 0, even if a and b are -ve

For eg. a = -4, b = -3 or a = 5, b = 2

And as |a| will always be positive in this case, |a| will be greater than b or -b, therefore |a| + b > 0 will always stand correct, since you are adding or removing a smaller value than |a|

In option C. let’s suppose, a = -4 and b = -3

a + |b| = -1 which is < 0

Hope it helps.

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I am not able to understand after reading so much!
what if |a| is -a and b is -b then we have |a| + b < 0, right?

if we are saying b can't be -b given the sign, then in that case it is correct.

but the option C where, a > -b and a > b always holds true as well since a > b.
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It’s a wonderful question if we visualise this.

Absolute values is about magnitudes, and in option A, D and E, the magnitude doesn’t matter, so simply discard them.

Now, we are left with only B & C. We are given that magnitude of a is greater than magnitude of b. (or you can think it as the distance from 0. I.e. the distance of a is greater from 0 than the distance of b from 0).

Hence, for irrespective of b>0, or b<0, for a>0 both B&C are correct choices. But, for a<0, the only choice that is correct is b.

Visualise it like this, on a number line —

A........b......0
A......0....b
0......b........a
....b...0..........a

In all the scenarios, the A’s magnitude will overpower B’s magnitude. For a>0, the answer will always be positive, irrespective of b>0 or b<0 but for the situation where a<0 the |a| solves for the negative sign, and hence, the answer |a| +b >0, is the only right choice.

Hope it helps!
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