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Bunuel's way is really good. I got confused initially with "r" being used for the 1st part.

I see that for me if I name the downhill rate r1 and uphill r2 it's better so that I don't get lost :

r1 = x + 10
x = r1 -10

r2 = x -8
x = r2+8

-- r1 = (r2+8) +10 = r2 +18

Hence the equation: (r2+18) t = (r2)(t + 135)

The trick here is to avoid multiplying 2 numbers and get a bigger one, if you try using r1 instead in the equation then you will run into that problem.
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Hi,
The problem states she runs 300 meters. Even if you pick any rate. let's say she runs 10meters per second in downhill. Still it would take her only about 30 seconds. How can it be more than 135 seconds of uphill time. Am i missing something basic here?
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Skier Lindsey Vonn completes a straight 300-meter downhill run in \(t\) seconds and at an average speed of \((x + 10)\) meters per second. She then rides a chairlift back up the mountain the same distance at an average speed of \((x - 8)\) meters per second. If the ride up the mountain took 135 seconds longer than her run down the mountain, what was her average speed, in meters per second, during her downhill run?

A. 10
B. 15
C. 20
D. 25
E. 30

(300/x-8)-(300/x+10)=135
=>5400=135(x^2-2x-80)
=>40=x^2-2x-80
=>x^2-2x-120=0
=>(x-12)(x+10)=0
=>x=12

Then downhill speed is (x+10)=12+10=22

Bunuel, can you please tell me what am I doing wrong?? :(
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[300/(x-8)] - [300/(x+10)] = 135

Solving the above equation leads to

5400 = 135 (x-8) (x+10)

=> 40 = (x-8) (x+10)
=> 40 = (x-8) (x+10)
=> 40 = x^2+2x-80
=> 0 = x^2+2x-120
=> 0 = x^2+12x-10x-120
=> 0 = (x+12) (x-10)

x=10 or x=-12.

In this case x=10. Therefore downhill speed is 10+10 = 20 m/s (Answer C) for a time of 300/20 = 15 seconds

CHECK: Therefore uphill speed is 10-8 = 2m/s for a time of 300/2 = 150 seconds.

Uphill time - downhill time = 150-15 = 135 seconds.
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Hi,

Another method to do this would be substituting options and seeing which option fulfills the difference of 135 secs between the two scenarios.
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This is how i solved it in under 30 secs using POE. I want to understand if this is the right approach to use during the exam.
We know the equations look messy, but we have (x+10)*t = 300 & (x-8)*(t+135) = 300
t has to be an integer because all my answer choices for x are integers. So using uphill eqn, x will be (300/something) + 8 --> integer
Hence, trying all answer choices in the downstream equation:
Option A - x = 10 ==> t = 300/20 --> result not an integer value
Option B - x = 15 ==> t = 300/25 --> result not an integer value
Option C - x = 20 ==> t = 300/30 = INTEGER (Keep)
Option D - x = 25 ==> t = 300/35 --> result not an integer value
Option E - x = 30 ==> t = 300/40 --> result not an integer value
By POE, answer = B.

Can i get an expert's opinion please?

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This one is perfect for backsolving:

300 = (x+10)y
300 = (x-8)(y+135)

Begin with the middle value:

C) 20

x = 10 into first equation --> y = 15 into second equation.

Works fine.
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Here's how I did it -

[300/(x-8)] - [300/(x+10)] = 135

Substitute the first answer option into the above equation : x = 10

LHS = [300/(10-8)] - [300/(10+10)]

LHS = 300/2 - 300/20

therefore, LHS = 150-15 = 135

LHS = RHS

So, x=10. Question asks : Avg. Speed Downhill, which is (x+10)

Answer = (x+10) = 10+10 = 20.
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The much simpler and faster approach is:
We know that the difference in time is 135 seconds, and also that v=d/t so t=d/v
Therefore: (300/x-8) - (300/x+10) = 135
And know you can back solve:(we need to find x+10):
For A: x is 0 which is impossible because 300/x-8 would be neg (cannot have a negative time)
For B: same reasoning as A
For C:x is 10: we can try and plug in and you will get 150-15= 135 so C is correct
For D: x is 15 300/7 is decimal and 300/25 is not so impossible to get 135 for the difference
For E: x is 20 you can plug in and find that it does not satisfy the equation
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