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20 May 2012, 11:05
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Looking at risk management positions at big banks that require a combination of practical experience and MBA. Ideally would like to find a reasonably sized organization where I could design and implement the RM strategies.
I’m concerned about how PTMBA and EMBA programs are viewed by employers and fewer networking opportunities. Would strongly prefer the immersion and personal interaction of a FT program if it’s realistic.
Any thoughts on:
1. Is it realistic to pursue a FT program?
2. The reputation / value of PT/EMBA programs in the marketplace?
3. Your take on which are the top PT/EMBA programs?
I know that’s a lot of questions, but your candor and insight is thoroughly appreciated.
I’m concerned about how PTMBA and EMBA programs are viewed by employers and fewer networking opportunities. Would strongly prefer the immersion and personal interaction of a FT program if it’s realistic.
Any thoughts on:
1. Is it realistic to pursue a FT program?
2. The reputation / value of PT/EMBA programs in the marketplace?
3. Your take on which are the top PT/EMBA programs?
I know that’s a lot of questions, but your candor and insight is thoroughly appreciated.
20 May 2012, 12:45
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You have a misguided view of the exec and part-time programs. They will suit you much better for what you're after in terms of post-MBA goals (you're basically staying in the industry) as well as where you're at in your life.
Recruiters don't look down on exec or part-time programs. They are treated DIFFERENTLY.
Full-time programs are designed for folks who are early in their careers (a few years out of college). And recruiters are looking for these kinds of folks to fill mostly junior level positions (not quite entry level, but it's not mid-career like where you are already right now).
Part-time and executive programs are designed for people like you: folks who are mid-career and looking to transition within their industry sector.
As for "networking opportunities" - it seems like too many applicants don't really think this thing through, and treat it as shorthand for some vague notion that all of a sudden by being in school they will have the golden key to unlock the doors to the magic kingdom, or at least they will all become part of some old boys network (modern version of it) where money and jobs are traded like baseball cards.
Think about it. If you go full-time, many of your classmates will be almost a decade younger than you, and with significantly less experience (professionally and personally) than you. They are a few years removed from doing keg stands in college, and you (my guess) are either married with kids, or at that stage where your friends/contacts are at that stage (and where keg stands seems like a distant memory to you, almost adolescent). You were in college when Netscape went public (and where your current MBA students may not even know what that is), when Clinton was President, when Friends and Seinfeld were still on at its peak, and when John Elway and Michael Jordan were still playing and winning championships. You were a young adult when the dot-com boom hit and crashed, whereas most of your future full-time MBA classmates were still in elementary school. You vividly remember a world before Facebook, iPhones, text messaging, tweets, cell phones, and pre-9/11 security and innocence. Your classmates can't really remember a world without any of these lifestyle things or values. What do these kids (to you) have to offer for you? And conversely, what do you have to offer to them? You're likely on different planes of existence and mindset.
I'm not trying to make you feel like a dinosaur
,just to give you some perspective here.
Remember that "networking" basically means making friends in school. It's not "schmoozing" (because all talk is cheap). It's about relationships you build with people, and that trust is forged over time through working together on projects. Calling up some exec on the alumni database isn't really "networking" - it's just a form of cold calling where they won't hang up on you in 5 seconds or less. And you can do this whether you're a full-time or exec/part-time student -- either way, you're a stranger to the alumni on the other end of the phone (or text or email).
Again, in part-time and exec programs, you'll be around classmates that are closer to you in age, experience and maybe stage of life as well (regardless of whether they are single or married). Don't you think getting to know people like these are a better fit for you?
Recruiters don't look down on exec or part-time programs. They are treated DIFFERENTLY.
Full-time programs are designed for folks who are early in their careers (a few years out of college). And recruiters are looking for these kinds of folks to fill mostly junior level positions (not quite entry level, but it's not mid-career like where you are already right now).
Part-time and executive programs are designed for people like you: folks who are mid-career and looking to transition within their industry sector.
As for "networking opportunities" - it seems like too many applicants don't really think this thing through, and treat it as shorthand for some vague notion that all of a sudden by being in school they will have the golden key to unlock the doors to the magic kingdom, or at least they will all become part of some old boys network (modern version of it) where money and jobs are traded like baseball cards.
Think about it. If you go full-time, many of your classmates will be almost a decade younger than you, and with significantly less experience (professionally and personally) than you. They are a few years removed from doing keg stands in college, and you (my guess) are either married with kids, or at that stage where your friends/contacts are at that stage (and where keg stands seems like a distant memory to you, almost adolescent). You were in college when Netscape went public (and where your current MBA students may not even know what that is), when Clinton was President, when Friends and Seinfeld were still on at its peak, and when John Elway and Michael Jordan were still playing and winning championships. You were a young adult when the dot-com boom hit and crashed, whereas most of your future full-time MBA classmates were still in elementary school. You vividly remember a world before Facebook, iPhones, text messaging, tweets, cell phones, and pre-9/11 security and innocence. Your classmates can't really remember a world without any of these lifestyle things or values. What do these kids (to you) have to offer for you? And conversely, what do you have to offer to them? You're likely on different planes of existence and mindset.
I'm not trying to make you feel like a dinosaur
,just to give you some perspective here.Remember that "networking" basically means making friends in school. It's not "schmoozing" (because all talk is cheap). It's about relationships you build with people, and that trust is forged over time through working together on projects. Calling up some exec on the alumni database isn't really "networking" - it's just a form of cold calling where they won't hang up on you in 5 seconds or less. And you can do this whether you're a full-time or exec/part-time student -- either way, you're a stranger to the alumni on the other end of the phone (or text or email).
Again, in part-time and exec programs, you'll be around classmates that are closer to you in age, experience and maybe stage of life as well (regardless of whether they are single or married). Don't you think getting to know people like these are a better fit for you?
20 May 2012, 12:56
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One other thing:
With your profile, you should be competitive for part-time / exec programs like Kellogg, Booth, Columbia, Wharton and the executive programs at Harvard.
If you were to apply full-time, then you're looking at schools in the bottom half of the top 16 like Cornell, Yale, NYU, Duke, Darden, Ross, UCLA.
If you were looking purely for the brand on your resume, the part-time/exec is still better for you.
With your profile, you should be competitive for part-time / exec programs like Kellogg, Booth, Columbia, Wharton and the executive programs at Harvard.
If you were to apply full-time, then you're looking at schools in the bottom half of the top 16 like Cornell, Yale, NYU, Duke, Darden, Ross, UCLA.
If you were looking purely for the brand on your resume, the part-time/exec is still better for you.
