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Hi Bunuel, Kindly provide the solution.

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Hi Bunuel, Kindly provide the solution.

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Hi,
I am sure Bunuel will put in his bit, but let me try to find a solution for it..

lets see the Q

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What is the value of x^3 − 2x^2 + 7?

(1) 3x^3 − x = 2
(2) x^5 = 1

What are we asked?


Value of x^3 − 2x^2 + 7..
this requires any of the two values as mentioned below..
1) A unique value of x..
2) value of x^3 − 2x^2 in form of another equation


Lets see if teh eq provide the info


(1) 3x^3 − x = 2
lets check this for the two requirements above:-
A) It is a polynomial of degree 3, so will have 3 values of x.
All three can be same if we have it in form (x-some numeric value)^3, but it is not the case here..
so NO UNIQUE VALUE OF x..
B) We cannot change 3x^3 − x to x^3 − 2x^2, by any mathematical operation..

So Insuff

(2) x^5 = 1
this gives us a unique value of x, x=1, so Suff

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I am sure Bunuel will put in his bit, but let me try to find a solution for it..

lets see the Q

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What is the value of x^3 − 2x^2 + 7?

(1) 3x^3 − x = 2
(2) x^5 = 1

What are we asked?


Value of x^3 − 2x^2 + 7..
this requires any of the two values as mentioned below..
1) A unique value of x..
2) value of x^3 − 2x^2 in form of another equation


Lets see if teh eq provide the info


(1) 3x^3 − x = 2
lets check this for the two requirements above:-
A) It is a polynomial of degree 3, so will have 3 values of x.
All three can be same if we have it in form (x-some numeric value)^3, but it is not the case here..
so NO UNIQUE VALUE OF x..
B) We cannot change 3x^3 − x to x^3 − 2x^2, by any mathematical operation..

So Insuff

(2) x^5 = 1
this gives us a unique value of x, x=1, so Suff

ans B

Question for you. Statement 1 polynomial gives you 1 real and 2 complex (imaginary) solutions. Dont you think as GMAT deals with only REAL solutions, you can consider that there is only 1 'usable' value of x in this question, making this statement sufficient? IMO, it is not as straightforward or simple as just mentioning that there will be 3 solutions for x without checking how many will be real.

Again, GMAC is never going to give such an ambiguous question.
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Question for you. Statement 1 polynomial gives you 1 real and 2 complex (imaginary) solutions. Dont you think as GMAT deals with only REAL solutions, you can consider that there is only 1 'usable' value of x in this question, making this statement sufficient? IMO, it is not as straightforward or simple as just mentioning that there will be 3 solutions for x without checking how many will be real.

Again, GMAC is never going to give such an ambiguous question.

Hi,
you are absolutely correct on the part that we have 1 real and 2 unreal solution for the statement ONE..
So, you will be correct when you say that the probability of seeing a Q with unreal numbers is very low..
But you can always see these type of Qs with real solutions..




Also the purpose of the Q is to tell you " how to tackle these kind of problems?"..
A + sign turned to -ive or one odd term added would have been enough to make it a totally valid and good Q..
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Dear Sir

I agree with you and the your way of solving the problem. However, the D is being showed as incorrect i.e. answer what we have found and the ans that system has generated are not the same.

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Dear Sir

I agree with you and the your way of solving the problem. However, the D is being showed as incorrect i.e. answer what we have found and the ans that system has generated are not the same.

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Hi kaustav
are you saying D should have been the answer..
B is shown as answer..
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Yeah, you got me right.

Option A is also sufficient. It is generating only one unique real value.
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Yeah, you got me right.

Option A is also sufficient. It is generating only one unique real value.

Hi,
You are correct as Engr2012 too has observed...
As I have said taht the actual GMAT is not likely to test us on imaginary numbers...
you may have a part of equation factored as x^2+ 7=0 in real GMAT..
this will have imaginary solutions and can be set aside..
But in these terms is very rare

The intent of Q is to test you in knowing that 3x^3 − x = 2 is of order 3 and will have 3 roots..
and since this Q is unlikely from OG, the source may not have gone deep into what roots can be..

The Qs are made for average/above average guys, but to expect someone to spend >2 minutes on just one statement will not be the motive of GMAC.
If I may ask, how much time did you spend on finding roots of Eq in statement 1..




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