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when I asked ALL the three students to mention my country on the map, No one knew it!!!
Thank you for your reply! I know exactly what you mean.
I've been wondering something about international applicants. How do adcoms really evaluate them? INSEAD aside, when I look through the adcom team members 99% of the time they are very regional, if not local, and at least in their profile don't really list international experience. How effective are they at assessing the potential of an international applicant and the value of their application in terms of the meaning of their accomplishments at their own location, if the team members don't have much exposure?[/quote]
thats right. at INSEAD for example, the admission committee is composed of 10 alumni and 10 INSEAD staff (professors, admission directors, and even admission coordinator). and admission committee is truly multinational and multicultural..they know exactly what does (extracurricular) mean in different countries? they know the differences between cultures when it comes to personal achievements..and so on..at Yale, I noticed the admission staff are very familiar with the american applicants and they got deeper in talking with them about their career plans and from where do they come and where did their undergraduates, extracurricular activities..families..and all these staff! but as an international I felt i am really very very strange within them..PLEASE note..the students and staff were nice..BUT I am talking about the quality of a top tier MBA folks..there are things beyond good in college and test scores..I felt that I will not be benefiting from those students in an international scale..they will be good friends, but when it comes to global leader in multinational company, I really feel they need much preparation, experiences, and to be aware of the others.. at Duke fuqua, the white american I met there are on par with the international students in term of global awareness and they know many things about businesses, cultures, countries, and people. again, Yale SOM need more time and new strategy to be on par with the other top programs ..e.g.M7 schools, and INSEAD. in fact, they have at Yale the highest potential to be so; brands, money, proximity to NYC, new dean, every thing, except the gloomy new haven

, Please bear n mind, this is not to underestimate yale som or its students as it is just my experience and I wish for this institution to have the right people in the admission panel to help them attracting best students..the current admission people are not on the same level as Yale name! I wish Mr Ted read this and address this issue very soon..[/quote]
I don't think there's any question that Yale's not as international as INSEAD.![/quote]
Look, you like Yale, you are satisfied with it, it is OK no bother. we are talking about comparison with other TOP tier programs. so far yale som is a second tier by all measures; placements, yield results, the more importantly, students quality. most (if not all) MBA students want to benefit from the degree immediately after they graduate, the prospect of Yale MBA is still away behind. No one from the major MBB, nor IBs do recruit on the campus despite being very close to NYC!! go to Bain, Mackinsey, or Goldman Sachs sites and look if they have dedicated page for Yale SOM. comparing Yale with INSEAD is unfair at all. INSEAD is comparable only with M7 schools and particularly with HWS. again, again, and again, this is NOT to underestimate Yale, it is our observation and we hope the admission committee address this soon! btw, you need a HR guy in the admission management NOT a Lawyer! REMEMBER , when BW put yale 24, this was due to the recruiters views and students satisfaction! a median salary of 100k with the highest of 215k isn't the figures of a top school! you have the right to be happy with Yale, but when it comes to a very elite, top tier, and highly sought-after an MBA programs, NO Yale need at least 5 to 10 years, with increasing the class size, with placing more grads into the white shoe firms!!! some say, Yale has a business school???!!!! and they are right it is the very best undergrad, the very best Law, but MBA, sorry, not yet, similar to Harvard in engineering!!! they aren't comparable even with UIUC!! professional people never can't be taken by the brand!!!
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