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Step II..


Total ways..
W+R+G+Y=12
Now, take this as 12 marbles and 3 partitions, so total 15 things. You can choose these 3 partitions in 15C3 ways=\(\frac{15!}{12!3!}=\frac{15*14*13}{3*2}=5*7*13\)

Probability = \(\frac{11*5*3}{5*7*13}=\frac{33}{91}\)

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I'm not getting the partition part , what do you mean by this ?
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W|R|G|Y

There are 3 lines or partitions and 12 marbles. These 3 partitions divide the 12 marbles in 4 groups (W, R, G and Y).

1. When there is at least 1 marble in each group

Total number of ways= n-1Cr-1= 11C3 {n=12 and r=4}

2. When there are no restrictions

Total number of ways= n+r-1Cr-1= 15C3

Probability= 11C3/15C3= 11*10*9/15*14*13= 33/91





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Step II..


Total ways..
W+R+G+Y=12
Now, take this as 12 marbles and 3 partitions, so total 15 things. You can choose these 3 partitions in 15C3 ways=\(\frac{15!}{12!3!}=\frac{15*14*13}{3*2}=5*7*13\)

Probability = \(\frac{11*5*3}{5*7*13}=\frac{33}{91}\)

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I'm not getting the partition part , what do you mean by this ?
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12 marbles are selected at random from a large collection of white, red, green and yellow Marbles. The number of Marbles of each colour is unlimited. Find the probability that the selection contains at least one marble of each colour?

a. 34/91
b. 23/31
c. 36/91
d. 33/91
e. 1/4

Total cases:

\(x_1+x_2+x_3+x_4=12…C(n+r-1,r-1)=(12+4-1,4-1)=\frac{15!}{3!12!}\)

Favorable cases:

\(x_1+1+x_2+1+x_3+1+x_4+1=12…x_1+x_2+x_3+x_4=12-4=8\)

\(C(n+r-1,r-1)=(8+4-1,4-1)=\frac{11!}{3!8!}\)

Probability: Favorable/Total

\(\frac{\frac{11!}{3!8!}}{\frac{15!}{3!12!}}=\frac{11!(3!12!)}{3!8!(15!)}=\frac{11!12!}{8!15!}=\frac{33}{91}\)

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12 marbles are selected at random from a large collection of white, red, green and yellow Marbles. The number of Marbles of each colour is unlimited. Find the probability that the selection contains at least one marble of each colour?

a. 34/91
b. 23/31
c. 36/91
d. 33/91
e. 1/4

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This is same as W+R+G+Y=12, where all are positive integers..

Step I..


first give one to each, hence 4 gone. Now you can distribute the remaining 8 to anyone as the restriction of at least one is done..
\(W+R+G+Y=8..\)
Now, take this as 8 marbles and 3 partitions, so total 11 things. You can choose these 3 partitions in 11C3 ways=\(\frac{11!}{8!3!}=\frac{11*10*9}{3*2}=11*5*3\)

Step II..


Total ways..
W+R+G+Y=12
Now, take this as 12 marbles and 3 partitions, so total 15 things. You can choose these 3 partitions in 15C3 ways=\(\frac{15!}{12!3!}=\frac{15*14*13}{3*2}=5*7*13\)

Probability = \(\frac{11*5*3}{5*7*13}=\frac{33}{91}\)

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­Hi chetan2u , I believe you used \((n+r-1)C(r-1)\) but this can be used when n identical items are distributed to r individuals. Are the balls here identical? Please help me to understand. Thank you in advance.
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12 marbles are selected at random from a large collection of white, red, green and yellow Marbles. The number of Marbles of each colour is unlimited. Find the probability that the selection contains at least one marble of each colour?

a. 34/91
b. 23/31
c. 36/91
d. 33/91
e. 1/4

need a good and easy approach

Posted from my mobile device

This is same as W+R+G+Y=12, where all are positive integers..

Step I..


first give one to each, hence 4 gone. Now you can distribute the remaining 8 to anyone as the restriction of at least one is done..
\(W+R+G+Y=8..\)
Now, take this as 8 marbles and 3 partitions, so total 11 things. You can choose these 3 partitions in 11C3 ways=\(\frac{11!}{8!3!}=\frac{11*10*9}{3*2}=11*5*3\)

Step II..


Total ways..
W+R+G+Y=12
Now, take this as 12 marbles and 3 partitions, so total 15 things. You can choose these 3 partitions in 15C3 ways=\(\frac{15!}{12!3!}=\frac{15*14*13}{3*2}=5*7*13\)

Probability = \(\frac{11*5*3}{5*7*13}=\frac{33}{91}\)

D
­Hi chetan2u , I believe you used \((n+r-1)C(r-1)\) but this can be used when n identical items are distributed to r individuals. Are the balls here identical? Please help me to understand. Thank you in advance.

In this case the r distinct individuals are the distinct colors.

The identical items are the numbers, meaning not that 2=3😀, but that 2 of one color is the same number, 2, of a different color.

It's a bit nuanced, yes.
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In this case the r distinct individuals are the distinct colors.

The identical items are the numbers, meaning not that 2=3😀, but that 2 of one color is the same number, 2, of a different color.

It's a bit nuanced, yes.
­Okay, so basically after the distribution of 4 marbles, the remaining (12-4)=8 marbles are distributed among 4 different colours (which is represented by 'r' i.e. individuals). So the formula I mentioned applies. This is what my understanding is as per what you said. Please correct me if I am wrong. Thank you­
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@jackfr2Given: 12 marbles are selected at random from a large collection of white, red, green and yellow Marbles. The number of Marbles of each colour is unlimited.
Asked: Find the probability that the selection contains at least one marble of each colour?
Let the unlimited number of marbles for each color is a very large number L.

Favorable ways in which 1 marbles of each color is already distributed.
W + R +  G + Y  = 8
Number of favorable ways = (8+4-1)C(4-1) = 11C3 = 165

Total ways 
W + R +  G + Y  = 12
Number of favorable ways = (12+4-1)C(4-1) = 15C3 = 455

The probability that the selection contains at least one marble of each colour = 165/455 = 33/91

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