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I totally agree and thats a great assessment. If you want to work in an areas it helps to go where the alums are so Pepperdine could be a great fit for you. Good Luck!
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Hi there. Long time lurker, first time poster!

Academic & test score/Demographics:
-Age 27 (28 when I apply, 29 when I would start)
-White Male - coal miner family background
-GPA 2.3 GPA - West Virginia University - Industrial Engineering
-GMAT - 760 - Q51 taken only once

WE:
-By the time I apply (apply Fall 2016 for Fall 2017 start) I will have 6.5 years of WE, and 7.5 years by the time I would enroll.
-Spent first five years with a construction engineering firm traveling the country working on projects ranging from $10M - $50M. I've showed a steady promotion rate up to project manager, and a salary increase from $50k - > $100k (these are Pittsburgh dollars, not LA/San Fran/NYC dollars). I was always traveling full-time, and have worked in West Virginia, Pennsylvania, Illinois, Indiana, Missouri, Iowa, Florida, Washington, California. I've recently started working for a new company in the PNW and earned another $20k bump.
-I assumed total P&L responsibility for over $200M worth of projects which averaged 15% margin.
-I've now done two separate project control overhauls for each company I've worked with complete with full implementation.
-As a PM/Project Engineer I've managed anywhere from 30-300 people through daily direction and resource allocation.

Extra curricular:
-Statewide Business Plan Competition Finalist - 2010. My team actually started up the company, but fell through after we didn't win the competition due to team members going different directions. This was a long, 2 year process, and really was what dug me out of my low GPA slump and motivated me to finish and succeed in my current career. Investing so much time into something and seeing it go so far was truly rewarding, and I wish I would have done the same with my undergrad.
-Project Management Professional (PMP) Certification

School of interest:
-Haas
-UCLA
-USC
-UC-Irvine
-Pepperdine
-Yale (brand name, have family nearby and could live for near-free)

Post MBA direction:
- Short-term: Career change out of construction/engineering and jump into management consulting
- Long-term: Maintain progression up the ladder through a mgmt consulting firm. I'd also consider joining a more interesting tech company, i.e. Tesla Motors, Spacex, etc.


At the end of the day, once I finish this next construction project, I'll be relocating to Los Angeles. I can either try to apply for a full-time program, which gives me the whole career change situation as well as a chance to build a network, or I can wait another year after I've moved to Los Angeles and apply to each program's Part-Time program while I work.

I'd prefer to do the full-time since I want to be a career changer, but I know my GPA is so low and the Part-Time acceptance rates are much higher. I listed Pepperdine as more of a safety school, but I realize my low GPA may axe me from that program as well.

Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated!

Hey dude,
With a 760 and good work experience (which you have) I don't see why you should be applying to any program out of the Top 20. So, I don't see any reason for you to apply to Pepperdine. And For PT programs, frankly, if you get your story right and nail those essays you can get in anywhere.

As you pointed out the acceptance rates are much higher.

But maybe the FIRST question to ask yourself is: what do you want? what are your goals? PT or FT? Which matches up better?

Now if you ask me, only an FT MBA is the way to go for you. And at a program as highly ranked as possible. Moving into consulting is THE classical post-MBA goal, and the one that makes perfect sense (although you could and should refine it by aiming to become a "construction consultant" or "infrastructure consultant" or whatever. Given your goals, PT makes little sense, as does limiting yourself to Cali.

The only question is when to apply. Time is friggin short before round 2!!!!! You got basically two months left. :)

Yeah, your GPA is real low and will make top 5 schools out of range, but the rest of the schools should be at least somewhat possible. Especially since your GMAT is soooo high. You can always play the "shoot I was immature" card (which is probably not far from the truth) :)

I hope all this helps, dude,
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Hey wamov !

We have some very similar profiles! I'd suggest that you also look into Johnson and Tepper!

They're both great schools (obviously I'm biased), but I don't think you'd regret it.

:gl !

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Hi there. Long time lurker, first time poster!

Academic & test score/Demographics:
-Age 27 (28 when I apply, 29 when I would start)
-White Male - coal miner family background
-GPA 2.3 GPA - West Virginia University - Industrial Engineering
-GMAT - 760 - Q51 taken only once

WE:
-By the time I apply (apply Fall 2016 for Fall 2017 start) I will have 6.5 years of WE, and 7.5 years by the time I would enroll.
-Spent first five years with a construction engineering firm traveling the country working on projects ranging from $10M - $50M. I've showed a steady promotion rate up to project manager, and a salary increase from $50k - > $100k (these are Pittsburgh dollars, not LA/San Fran/NYC dollars). I was always traveling full-time, and have worked in West Virginia, Pennsylvania, Illinois, Indiana, Missouri, Iowa, Florida, Washington, California. I've recently started working for a new company in the PNW and earned another $20k bump.
-I assumed total P&L responsibility for over $200M worth of projects which averaged 15% margin.
-I've now done two separate project control overhauls for each company I've worked with complete with full implementation.
-As a PM/Project Engineer I've managed anywhere from 30-300 people through daily direction and resource allocation.

Extra curricular:
-Statewide Business Plan Competition Finalist - 2010. My team actually started up the company, but fell through after we didn't win the competition due to team members going different directions. This was a long, 2 year process, and really was what dug me out of my low GPA slump and motivated me to finish and succeed in my current career. Investing so much time into something and seeing it go so far was truly rewarding, and I wish I would have done the same with my undergrad.
-Project Management Professional (PMP) Certification

School of interest:
-Haas
-UCLA
-USC
-UC-Irvine
-Pepperdine
-Yale (brand name, have family nearby and could live for near-free)

Post MBA direction:
- Short-term: Career change out of construction/engineering and jump into management consulting
- Long-term: Maintain progression up the ladder through a mgmt consulting firm. I'd also consider joining a more interesting tech company, i.e. Tesla Motors, Spacex, etc.


At the end of the day, once I finish this next construction project, I'll be relocating to Los Angeles. I can either try to apply for a full-time program, which gives me the whole career change situation as well as a chance to build a network, or I can wait another year after I've moved to Los Angeles and apply to each program's Part-Time program while I work.

I'd prefer to do the full-time since I want to be a career changer, but I know my GPA is so low and the Part-Time acceptance rates are much higher. I listed Pepperdine as more of a safety school, but I realize my low GPA may axe me from that program as well.

Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated!
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Thanks JF and dtse86!

I've been traveling across the country, living places I don't want to live for the past 6 years, but if I could get into an IVY B-school, I think I could stomach it another couple years ;)

And yes, I was very immature during college, but man did I have a great time!

Finishing up this project and enrolling for the Fall 2017 cohort saves me up enough money to just write a check for the entire MBA program, so I'm definitely going to hold off until then. But I figure I'll apply FT to several top programs next year, and if I don't get in where I want, well I'll just move over to LA anyways, work for a year, and then apply PT!

Appreciate the advice, and I'll definitely consider some more top programs.
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Wamov,

As others have posted, the GPA is only one part of a larger application. Being aware of a weakness in your GPA will allow you to structure the rest of your application in a way that attempts to compensate for it. A low GPA is a hurdle--not a deal breaker. (And the essay portions and interviews in your application are great ways to tell the programs that you apply to why you may have had a low GPA and/or how you've learned from it.)

The programs not only want high GPAs for their own rankings and status, but also because it indicates to programs that you can do the work at the level they expect. It's your task to convince them that you're ready...and it's a very achievable goal.

If you have any further questions, feel free to contact us through our website (https://www.wysegyde.com) or by email directly (contact@wysegyde.com) and we'll be sure to set you up with one of our qualified consultants for a free initial consultation. (We're only $59/hour after that.) We have experience working with clients who are as far as 3 years from applying--it's never too early to start.

Good luck!

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Thanks JF and dtse86!

I've been traveling across the country, living places I don't want to live for the past 6 years, but if I could get into an IVY B-school, I think I could stomach it another couple years ;)

And yes, I was very immature during college, but man did I have a great time!

Finishing up this project and enrolling for the Fall 2017 cohort saves me up enough money to just write a check for the entire MBA program, so I'm definitely going to hold off until then. But I figure I'll apply FT to several top programs next year, and if I don't get in where I want, well I'll just move over to LA anyways, work for a year, and then apply PT!

Appreciate the advice, and I'll definitely consider some more top programs.

Sounds great!
You have not only an MBA plan, but a life plan too :)
and backup plans as well.
What could ever go wrong then?
:)

Best of luck dude!
And look forward to hearing from you next year.
Cheerio,
Jon