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2001 proved to be the automaker's first losing year since 1992, when the company had lost $7.4 billion, which was primarily because of almost $7 billion in accounting charges.

(A) when the company had lost $7.4 billion, which was primarily because of

(B) when the company had lost $7.4 billion, primarily resulting from

(C) when the company lost $7.4 billion, primarily because of

(D) which is when the company lost $7.4 billion, and that was primarily because of

(E) which is when the company lost $7.4 billion, primarily resulting from
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Edited answer choice (C) from "had lost" to "lost"

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2001 proved to be the automaker's first losing year since 1992, when the company had lost $7.4 billion, which was primarily because of almost $7 billion in accounting charges.

A) when the company had lost $7.4 billion, which was primarily because of

B) when the company had lost $7.4 billion, primarily resulting from

C) when the company had lost $7.4 billion, primarily because

D) which is when the company lost $7.4 billion, and that was primarily because of

E) which is when the company lost $7.4 billion, primarily resulting from


OA to follow.

D and E are wrong. The word which can only modify the noun preceding it. It cannot modify the whole sentence preceding. Which modify 1992 does not make sense.
A is wrong for the same reason. Which modify 7.4 billion does not make any sense.
because is better than resulting from. So I would say C is the correct answer here.

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C

A has a which with an incorrect antecedent.
DE have "which is when" which is not necessarily incorrect, but needlessly wordy. BC use the when correctly.
Now between B and C what reads better ?
company had LOST $$$ resulting from .. this is incorrect ---> company had a $$$ loss resulting from ... sounds better hence we can eliminate B
which leaves us with C.

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2001 proved to be the automaker's first losing year since 1992, when the company had lost $7.4 billion, which was primarily because of almost $7 billion in accounting charges.

A) when the company had lost $7.4 billion, which was primarily because of

B) when the company had lost $7.4 billion, primarily resulting from

C) when the company had lost $7.4 billion, primarily because of

D) which is when the company lost $7.4 billion, and that was primarily because of

E) which is when the company lost $7.4 billion, primarily resulting from


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Last event - company losing money in 2001. First event - company losing money in 1992. Past perfect because these are two events in the past. Note the past tense used while saying "2001 proved to be ..."

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IMO C.

Since the two past actions are not related to each other, past perfect tense is not required.

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Sentence has modifier issue:

1. Time entities such as years, days and action time posts require when – so C, D and E is out. Moreover – Which is when – too verbose

Between A and B:
In A: “Which” is intended to logically modify the “company had lost ” action but as we know “which” points immediately preceding noun (“7.4 billion”). This issue is resolved in the B.

Answer: B

a)..
b)when the company had lost $7.4 billion, primarily resulting from
c)when the company lost $ 7.4 billion, primarily because of
d)which is when the company7 lost $7.4 billion, and that was primarily because of
e)which is when the company lost $7.4 billion, primarily resulting from

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2001 proved to be the automaker's first losing year since 1992, when the company had lost $7.4 billion, which was primarily because of almost $7 billion in accounting charges

We Need 'HAD' in this case.

Lets see like this.

--------1992-----------2001 -------------CURRENT ------>>

"2001 proved" indicates that it is in past and we are at a later point that 2001. It then refers to 1992 which is earlier than 2001. Hence, as compared to the current time, the two actions both fall in past and so earlier one (1992) needs past perfect.

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New post 30 Jul 2010, 13:39
You don't need past perfect "had" when time is already mentioned. Btw there are problems with original post. I jumped from my seat when I found OA. The correct option is -

c)when the company lost $ 7.4 billion, primarily because of ------> no past perfect. Now C is correct.

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http://www.manhattangmat.com/forums/200 ... t5066.html

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+1 for C . As seekmba said ' because of' sounds better than 'resulting from'!

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2001 proved to be the automaker's first losing year since 1992, when the company had lost $7.4 billion, which was primarily because of almost $7 billion in accounting charges.

(A) when the company had lost $7.4 billion, which was primarily because of

(B) when the company had lost $7.4 billion, primarily resulting from

(C) when the company had lost $7.4 billion, primarily because of

(D) which is when the company lost $7.4 billion, and that was primarily because of

(E) which is when the company lost $7.4 billion, primarily resulting from

Why do we need past perfect "had lost" here? Could someone help to explain the correct usage of "resulting from" and "because of" in this context?
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2001 proved to be the automaker's first losing year since 1992, when the company had lost $7.4 billion, which was primarily because of almost $7 billion in accounting charges.

(A) when the company had lost $7.4 billion, which was primarily because of

(B) when the company had lost $7.4 billion, primarily resulting from

(C) when the company had lost $7.4 billion, primarily because of

(D) which is when the company lost $7.4 billion, and that was primarily because of

(E) which is when the company lost $7.4 billion, primarily resulting from

Why do we need past perfect "had lost" here? Could someone help to explain the correct usage of "resulting from" and "because of" in this context?


Hi,

I think there is a typo in option (C). In (C), simple past tense, not past perfect tense, is used.
FYI: https://www.manhattanprep.com/gmat/foru ... t5066.html

Regarding "resulting from" and "because of":

Correct usage:

Noun/ noun phrase + resulting from + noun/noun phrase
---> "resulting from" modifies only preceding noun / noun phrase.
While according to intended meaning, [the fact that the company lost.....] is the result of "almost $7 billion in accounting charges", the usage of "resulting from" makes us feel as if "the company" is the result instead.---> Intended meaning is changed.

SVO, because of + noun/ noun phrase
----> "because of" can modify the whole clause preceding it. That's why the usage of "because of" can totally convey intended meaning of the sentence.

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As reported, there seems to be some issue about the wrong transcription of the choice C; That must be sorted out before any meaningful attempt can be made to spot the correct choice. That aside,

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(B) when the company had lost $7.4 billion, primarily resulting from

(C) when the company had lost $7.4 billion, primarily because of


Notwithstanding the past perfect/ past tense debate, there is a clue to know the difference between B and C. While 'resulting from' is simply a coincidental flow of occurrence, 'because of' is a pure 'cause and effect' play, which is what we want. Therefore, C is better.
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But I guess when When we are specifically referring to a time frame in the question past perfect (* edited should not be used.) Becomes optional.

2001 proved to be the automaker's first losing year since 1992, when the company had lost $7.4 billion, which was primarily because of almost $7 billion in accounting charges.

Because of is used for reasoning and apt in this context as we are providing a reasoning for the loss.

When specific time frame is not present and two actions are discussed without specifying when actually those events occurred.
We have to showcase one event is relative to occurrence of another event. Then past perfect comes to play.
Just as when we specify the word "Before", So is with the case when time frames are specified. Past perfect becomes optional.
Coming to B and C.
In B - as daagh sir has outlined "Because of" is synchronous in this context rather than resulting from. :) .

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Lucy Phuong wrote:
hazelnut wrote:
2001 proved to be the automaker's first losing year since 1992, when the company had lost $7.4 billion, which was primarily because of almost $7 billion in accounting charges.

(A) when the company had lost $7.4 billion, which was primarily because of

(B) when the company had lost $7.4 billion, primarily resulting from

(C) when the company had lost $7.4 billion, primarily because of

(D) which is when the company lost $7.4 billion, and that was primarily because of

(E) which is when the company lost $7.4 billion, primarily resulting from

Why do we need past perfect "had lost" here? Could someone help to explain the correct usage of "resulting from" and "because of" in this context?


Hi,

I think there is a typo in option (C). In (C), simple past tense, not past perfect tense, is used.
FYI: https://www.manhattanprep.com/gmat/foru ... t5066.html

Regarding "resulting from" and "because of":

Correct usage:

Noun/ noun phrase + resulting from + noun/noun phrase
---> "resulting from" modifies only preceding noun / noun phrase.
While according to intended meaning, [the fact that the company lost.....] is the result of "almost $7 billion in accounting charges", the usage of "resulting from" makes us feel as if "the company" is the result instead.---> Intended meaning is changed.

SVO, because of + noun/ noun phrase
----> "because of" can modify the whole clause preceding it. That's why the usage of "because of" can totally convey intended meaning of the sentence.

Hope this helps.



I think ',resulting from' is of the form (comma+ing) modifier. so it is adv modifer and not noun modifer

Can you pls help.

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2001 proved to be the automaker's first losing year since 1992, when the company had lost $7.4 billion, which was primarily because of almost $7 billion in accounting charges.

(A) when the company had lost $7.4 billion, which was primarily because of

(B) when the company had lost $7.4 billion, primarily resulting from

(C) when the company lost $7.4 billion, primarily because of

(D) which is when the company lost $7.4 billion, and that was primarily because of

(E) which is when the company lost $7.4 billion, primarily resulting from


The answer is C

To indicate " when " is used .
Which is clearly wrong here as D and E start with which .Which cannot refer to the time so D and E are out .
The time frame in the original sentence are specified and we know for sure which event happened first so we do not have to use past perfect so A and B are out .
C is answer it avoids the past perfect and use when .

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