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# 630- > 700 (My 5th attempt)

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630(Q49,V27),630(Q49,V27),660(Q49,V31),660(Q49,V31),->700.Today I wrote my GMAT for the 5th time. Yes for the 5th time and scored 700(Q50, V34). I gave my 1st Exam GMAT Exam last year in May and scored a dismissive 630. From May 2012 to September 16th 2013 it has been a long and tiresome journey. My bête noir is the verbal section. I was never good in CR, SC or RC. Nevertheless I never lost hope and whenever I did I read debriefs on Gmatclub to give me strength and hope to carry on just one more time. Cutting to the chase, the material I used in order of its usefulness to me:

1) OG 13, GMAT verbal review. -> Best Books. Period.
2) MGMAT Strategy guides-> nothing more could be said about them.
3) Aristotle sentence correction for SC.
4) VERITAS prep Math book for Probability and combinatorics.
5) Kaplan Verbal review
6) E-gmat Verbal Course-> a lot has been said about it. But honestly, it’s a bit overrated. If you have done the above books, I don’t think you need it.

Things that I observed on the way:

1) NEVER GIVE UP. Be Sincere. I know its treatise but I watched a lot of motivational videos to keep my going. Always remember when things get tough, the tough gets going. AND you are tough.
2) Pick up a time and date that fits your schedule. You will be exhausted during the marathon journey so pick your best time to fight the enemy.
3) Don’t worry about the level of questions that you are facing. Just keep your head straight and do the job. I have done that in my previous attempts and despite being good in quant I never broke the 49 mark till today, when I just focused on the job.
4) If you are good in Quant, dedicate your time mastering the SC and CR concepts in manhattan and practice the exercises in the guides and try to remember the pattern of errors. For RC , I didn’t worry too much. I noticed few methodologies that are there in strategy guide but my hand writing is so bad that even I can’t read it back after I write it. . I decide that I wouldn't worry too much about taking notes; I kept reading as long as I am able to comprehend the passage. That worked okay for me.
If you have time, watch Thursday’s with Ron, it’s a good resource but takes up quite a bit of time.

Good luck Amigos!

I will be happy to answer questions.
Regards,
Bluelagoon.
(PS : You can notice how grammatically incorrect the above debrief is so if i can score 700, so can you )

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16 Sep 2013, 23:58
Lobster wrote:

If you are given 3 months of prep while working 40hrs full time, how would you plan your prep differently?

Take a test and find out your strength and weakness so that you can gauge how much efforts are needed and where they are needed.

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17 Sep 2013, 03:29
Bluelagoon wrote:
630(Q49,V27),630(Q49,V27),660(Q49,V31),660(Q49,V31),->700.Today I wrote my GMAT for the 5th time. Yes for the 5th time and scored 700(Q50, V34). I gave my 1st Exam GMAT Exam last year in May and scored a dismissive 630. From May 2012 to September 16th 2013 it has been a long and tiresome journey. My bête noir is the verbal section. I was never good in CR, SC or RC. Nevertheless I never lost hope and whenever I did I read debriefs on Gmatclub to give me strength and hope to carry on just one more time. Cutting to the chase, the material I used in order of its usefulness to me:

1) OG 13, GMAT verbal review. -> Best Books. Period.
2) MGMAT Strategy guides-> nothing more could be said about them.
3) Aristotle sentence correction for SC.
4) VERITAS prep Math book for Probability and combinatorics.
5) Kaplan Verbal review
6) E-gmat Verbal Course-> a lot has been said about it. But honestly, it’s a bit overrated. If you have done the above books, I don’t think you need it.

Things that I observed on the way:

1) NEVER GIVE UP. Be Sincere. I know its treatise but I watched a lot of motivational videos to keep my going. Always remember when things get tough, the tough gets going. AND you are tough.
2) Pick up a time and date that fits your schedule. You will be exhausted during the marathon journey so pick your best time to fight the enemy.
3) Don’t worry about the level of questions that you are facing. Just keep your head straight and do the job. I have done that in my previous attempts and despite being good in quant I never broke the 49 mark till today, when I just focused on the job.
4) If you are good in Quant, dedicate your time mastering the SC and CR concepts in manhattan and practice the exercises in the guides and try to remember the pattern of errors. For RC , I didn’t worry too much. I noticed few methodologies that are there in strategy guide but my hand writing is so bad that even I can’t read it back after I write it. . I decide that I wouldn't worry too much about taking notes; I kept reading as long as I am able to comprehend the passage. That worked okay for me.
If you have time, watch Thursday’s with Ron, it’s a good resource but takes up quite a bit of time.

Good luck Amigos!

I will be happy to answer questions.
Regards,
Bluelagoon.
(PS : You can notice how grammatically incorrect the above debrief is so if i can score 700, so can you )

This is so inspiring , I scored 580 in my first attempt and lost hope and interest ...
But I dont want to quit and wont quit still trying my best to score near 700 ..

Any advice for RC and CRs?
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GMAT 1 - 580 (Q47 V23) http://gmatclub.com/forum/a-tight-slap-on-face-149457.html

GMAT 2 - 670 (Q48 V34) http://gmatclub.com/forum/670-one-month-off-from-office-and-2-months-hard-work-163761.html#p1297561

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17 Sep 2013, 07:40
Congratulations !!!
What all tests have you given for all the attempts could you please let me know..... scores in those tests are not important but want to know how you increased your score in verbal even if it is from V 27 to V 34 .... because I am also hovering in the same range

All the best for the Apps!!!
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17 Sep 2013, 12:40
abhinav11 wrote:
Bluelagoon wrote:
630(Q49,V27),630(Q49,V27),660(Q49,V31),660(Q49,V31),->700.Today I wrote my GMAT for the 5th time. Yes for the 5th time and scored 700(Q50, V34). I gave my 1st Exam GMAT Exam last year in May and scored a dismissive 630. From May 2012 to September 16th 2013 it has been a long and tiresome journey. My bête noir is the verbal section. I was never good in CR, SC or RC. Nevertheless I never lost hope and whenever I did I read debriefs on Gmatclub to give me strength and hope to carry on just one more time. Cutting to the chase, the material I used in order of its usefulness to me:

1) OG 13, GMAT verbal review. -> Best Books. Period.
2) MGMAT Strategy guides-> nothing more could be said about them.
3) Aristotle sentence correction for SC.
4) VERITAS prep Math book for Probability and combinatorics.
5) Kaplan Verbal review
6) E-gmat Verbal Course-> a lot has been said about it. But honestly, it’s a bit overrated. If you have done the above books, I don’t think you need it.

Things that I observed on the way:

1) NEVER GIVE UP. Be Sincere. I know its treatise but I watched a lot of motivational videos to keep my going. Always remember when things get tough, the tough gets going. AND you are tough.
2) Pick up a time and date that fits your schedule. You will be exhausted during the marathon journey so pick your best time to fight the enemy.
3) Don’t worry about the level of questions that you are facing. Just keep your head straight and do the job. I have done that in my previous attempts and despite being good in quant I never broke the 49 mark till today, when I just focused on the job.
4) If you are good in Quant, dedicate your time mastering the SC and CR concepts in manhattan and practice the exercises in the guides and try to remember the pattern of errors. For RC , I didn’t worry too much. I noticed few methodologies that are there in strategy guide but my hand writing is so bad that even I can’t read it back after I write it. . I decide that I wouldn't worry too much about taking notes; I kept reading as long as I am able to comprehend the passage. That worked okay for me.
If you have time, watch Thursday’s with Ron, it’s a good resource but takes up quite a bit of time.

Good luck Amigos!

I will be happy to answer questions.
Regards,
Bluelagoon.
(PS : You can notice how grammatically incorrect the above debrief is so if i can score 700, so can you )

This is so inspiring , I scored 580 in my first attempt and lost hope and interest ...
But I dont want to quit and wont quit still trying my best to score near 700 ..

Any advice for RC and CRs?

Their is few generic things on CR..such as co-relation,survey related problems..try to understand the basic reasoning behind these arguments..pre thinking also helps...try that...For me RC puts the brake on speed because towards the end of the test my comprehension ability will be minimal especially on the long complex RC's would screw up my time....i will advise..taking notes if that helps you...

practice RC from GMAT sources and read their reasoning for incorrect answer/correct answer. If you have 90% accuracy in SC, and about 80% in CR than you are fine...

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17 Sep 2013, 12:54
aim730 wrote:
Congratulations !!!
What all tests have you given for all the attempts could you please let me know..... scores in those tests are not important but want to know how you increased your score in verbal even if it is from V 27 to V 34 .... because I am also hovering in the same range

All the best for the Apps!!!

I have taken MGMAT tests..gmatclub math tests..and GMATPREP....previously i also took Veritas tests but i wouldn't recommend them...
gmatclub tests are the only test that comes very close to the actual exam Quant..rest all are above par(Manhattan) or below par(veritas)

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17 Sep 2013, 18:39
Congrats! It took me multiple times to break the 700 mark as well... you deserve it!

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17 Sep 2013, 22:23
Many Congratulations!
I was feeling low, precisely very low. I came across this debrief, and frankly speaking 630 -> 700 was not prominent but no. of attempts was prominent for me. I salute for your courage and patience. It is motivating to hear from you.

I am looking for Aristotle SC grail 3rd ed. If you have then please donate.

I am still fighting the battle.
Vivek

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18 Sep 2013, 01:30
vivmechster wrote:
Many Congratulations!
I was feeling low, precisely very low. I came across this debrief, and frankly speaking 630 -> 700 was not prominent but no. of attempts was prominent for me. I salute for your courage and patience. It is motivating to hear from you.

I am looking for Aristotle SC grail 3rd ed. If you have then please donate.

I am still fighting the battle.
Vivek

Don't worry too much...stick with your normal routine...look at OG problems..they are the best..rest all the material is kind of not at par with GMAT.Identify your strengths and exercise those skills to the fullest(In my case quant).....Identify what weakeness you can improve..for me mastering SC was one as its weighted more as compared to other Questions... Try to learn the correct patterns of answer in OG...Honestly..i could have scored better may be a 37 on verbal but i ended up wasting too much time on deciding RC answers..and ended up rushing the last 5-6 questions in last 5 minutes...given my challenges...i am satisfied with the score.

My younger bro might need my books, so i will hold on to them,and Aristotle SC in my mind is worth every penny..so get it . I would rate it at par with MGMAT strategy guide.

Good luck!

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21 Sep 2013, 02:27
Congrats on your score and not giving up! inspiring!
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25 Sep 2013, 13:55
Thank you for the debrief. Congratulations on the end of this arduous journey and beginning of the next one of course.
Good Luck and thank you for your contribution!
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26 Sep 2013, 15:13
bb wrote:
Thank you for the debrief. Congratulations on the end of this arduous journey and beginning of the next one of course.
Good Luck and thank you for your contribution!

Thank you. If i can make a recommendation of the gmatclub tests, i will request you to match up the verbal questions with the actual GMAT. Having practiced on multiple platforms , i think gmatclub have the best quant tests but i can't say the same for verbal.

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