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Hi pafrompa,

Since August 2015!

You must have been fatigued by now, and if you plan to apply in R2, I’m afraid you just don’t have enough time. And, as you mentioned, you may not get time off this time.

If I were you, I would apply with 710. It may be bit lower than the medians at your target schools, but it isn’t too off. It’s not 50-60 points off. You’ll better utilize the remaining time if you use it for your applications. They do take time.

If you’re applying in R2, this is where you’ll improve your odds. You mentioned that you’ve been "go-to" for your superiors. That’s a strong sign. Focus on how you can translate this and such things on to your applications.

Will a 710, on its own, lead to a ding?

Not really.

Haas (and most top schools) rejects 80+% of applicants with 750+ scores. There are other components in the application process which are equally, or more, important.
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hi 99,

Thanks for the reply. I'm not planning until applying until R1 next year, so I have some time. My main concern is 1)I am a little frustrated with it at the moment and 2) I don't know if I can take more time off to study. I'm leaning towards maybe retaking it in December.
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hi 99,

Thanks for the reply. I'm not planning until applying until R1 next year, so I have some time. My main concern is 1)I am a little frustrated with it at the moment and 2) I don't know if I can take more time off to study. I'm leaning towards maybe retaking it in December.

Well in that case, you have time. Take a break and then go at it with renewed energy buddy.
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hi 99,

Thanks for the reply. I'm not planning until applying until R1 next year, so I have some time. My main concern is 1)I am a little frustrated with it at the moment and 2) I don't know if I can take more time off to study. I'm leaning towards maybe retaking it in December.

Well in that case, you have time. Take a break and then go at it with renewed energy buddy.


Thanks, just scheduled it for December 7th. Appreciate the insight everyone.
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If you're applying next year and if you can push yourself again, then it's fine to re-take the test and try reaching the median score of your target schools.
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Wharton and Columbia are very competitive schools, for Columbia maybe you could get by with a 710, for Wharton I think it would be every difficult unless everything else in your profile is very strong and/or you add some diversity. I think the advice above is solid always make sure you are evaluating your profile from all angles before you decide to retake the test
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Posted this in the general GMAT strategies section before and was told that this might be a better place.

Hi All,
Feeling pretty disappointed, and was hoping for some advice here. Just as some background I have been studing for the GMAT since August 2015. I know studying over this long of a time period isn't the best, but I work in consulting and have developed a pretty good reputation as a "go-to" for my superiors; consequently, I work ~80-90 hours a week so my studying was confined to the weekends only. A little longer than a month ago I took the GMAT for the first time and scored a 710 (Q 44; V42). I was't entirely happy after receiving this score so I scheduled a retake and communicated to my superiors that I needed a little more free time to study, which they tried to oblige with. I made it my effort to study EVERY DAY no matter how late I was at work and took off four days from work preceding the date of the exam to prepare. The result of this second GMAT was 700 (Quant 47; Verbal 40). The verbal is really bothering me, I've taken 10 practice CAT's and my range for verbal was a 40-44, so I scored towards the bottom of my range on my second test. The highest I have ever scored on quant during these practice tests was a 49, but most fluctuated within the 44-46 range, so the recent 47 is fine with me.

I'm from the Philly area and it's my dream to go back for school, and I've been to Wharton sponsored networking events specific to my field and really liked everyone I met. I've also been to Columbia for similar events and enjoyed the people there, albeit I am not as close to the community yet. Although these two school have occupied most of my thoughts while studying, I looked forward to being done and exploring a majority of the top institutions to find somewhere I fit best based on feel and how their program fits into my plan, not necessarily the ranking. As corny as it sounds, a major driver of my happiness these past two years has been the dream that I will get into one of the top B schools, and the GMAT seems to be what is really going to ding me.

What do you all think, is it worth going at it a third time? I've studied for a little over a year and took every precaution I could to make sure this one went right, including taking the time off to get myself in the right mindset, which I do not think I can afford to do again. What's really bothering me is if I "super score" my two scores, you get either a 720 or 730 depending on the chart you use and I would have been more than happy walking away with either of those scores on my recent test. My access to my prep software expires in mid-December so I would have to take it again soon, and I am a little disheartened/frustrated by the whole situation, but I want to be admitted badly. If I were to take it again and get a 730, would that have a large impact on my chances at either of those institutions or top schools in general, or is the fact that they'll see my quant was a little low before and I tried to rectify it enough (assuming they will look at both of my scores)? Thanks for all the insight and advice to hopefully come, and thank you all for being part of a community that has been my favorite site to lurk over the past year.

Hey man,
My advice: be efficient. You have studied long and hard, and maybe you just reached your plateau, which is fine. You already have the best score you can. Sure, apply to some tough schools, but just accept your score, and add some Top20 schools as well. They can also get you to your goal, and there's no need to obsess about Wharton or any other school, that's not what matters. What matters is what you DO.


So time to take a breather, and then attack those essays!

Best,
JF


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Posted this in the general GMAT strategies section before and was told that this might be a better place.
Hi pafrompa, I want to just add also that I do think you should not just be stuck on 2 schools- think more about the end goal and then try to see where are places that get you there- maybe it is Columbia and Wharton- but maybe NYU or Cornell or Yale may also be a good fit. So don't limit yourself- go visit and research several programs!
Hi All,
Feeling pretty disappointed, and was hoping for some advice here. Just as some background I have been studing for the GMAT since August 2015. I know studying over this long of a time period isn't the best, but I work in consulting and have developed a pretty good reputation as a "go-to" for my superiors; consequently, I work ~80-90 hours a week so my studying was confined to the weekends only. A little longer than a month ago I took the GMAT for the first time and scored a 710 (Q 44; V42). I was't entirely happy after receiving this score so I scheduled a retake and communicated to my superiors that I needed a little more free time to study, which they tried to oblige with. I made it my effort to study EVERY DAY no matter how late I was at work and took off four days from work preceding the date of the exam to prepare. The result of this second GMAT was 700 (Quant 47; Verbal 40). The verbal is really bothering me, I've taken 10 practice CAT's and my range for verbal was a 40-44, so I scored towards the bottom of my range on my second test. The highest I have ever scored on quant during these practice tests was a 49, but most fluctuated within the 44-46 range, so the recent 47 is fine with me.

I'm from the Philly area and it's my dream to go back for school, and I've been to Wharton sponsored networking events specific to my field and really liked everyone I met. I've also been to Columbia for similar events and enjoyed the people there, albeit I am not as close to the community yet. Although these two school have occupied most of my thoughts while studying, I looked forward to being done and exploring a majority of the top institutions to find somewhere I fit best based on feel and how their program fits into my plan, not necessarily the ranking. As corny as it sounds, a major driver of my happiness these past two years has been the dream that I will get into one of the top B schools, and the GMAT seems to be what is really going to ding me.

What do you all think, is it worth going at it a third time? I've studied for a little over a year and took every precaution I could to make sure this one went right, including taking the time off to get myself in the right mindset, which I do not think I can afford to do again. What's really bothering me is if I "super score" my two scores, you get either a 720 or 730 depending on the chart you use and I would have been more than happy walking away with either of those scores on my recent test. My access to my prep software expires in mid-December so I would have to take it again soon, and I am a little disheartened/frustrated by the whole situation, but I want to be admitted badly. If I were to take it again and get a 730, would that have a large impact on my chances at either of those institutions or top schools in general, or is the fact that they'll see my quant was a little low before and I tried to rectify it enough (assuming they will look at both of my scores)? Thanks for all the insight and advice to hopefully come, and thank you all for being part of a community that has been my favorite site to lurk over the past year.