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# A certain class consists of 8 students, including Kim. Each day, three

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17 Feb 2012, 07:50
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A certain class consists of 8 students, including Kim. Each day, three tasks must be completed and are assigned as follows: one of the 8 students is selected at random to complete Task A, one of the remaining 7 students is selected at random to complete Task B, and one of the remaining six students is selected at random to complete Task C. What is the probability that Kim will be selected to complete one of the three tasks?

(A) 1/3
(B) 3/8
(C) 1/24
(D) 1/336
(E) 1/512

In solved in this way:

$$\frac{1}{8} * \frac{7}{7} * \frac{6}{6} = \frac{1}{8}$$

$$\frac{7}{8} * \frac{1}{7} * \frac{6}{6} = \frac{1}{8}$$

$$\frac{7}{8} * \frac{6}{7} * \frac{1}{6} = \frac{1}{8}$$

Therefore: $$\frac{1}{8} + \frac{1}{8} + \frac{1}{8} = [m]\frac{3}{8}$$[/m]

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17 Feb 2012, 08:23
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metallicafan wrote:
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metallicafan wrote:
A certain class consists of 8 students, including Kim. Each day, three tasks must be completed and are assigned as follows: one of the 8 students is selected at random to complete Task A, one of the remaining 7 students is selected at random to complete Task B, and one of the remaining six students is selected at random to complete Task C. What is the probability that Kim will be selected to complete one of the three tasks?

Since there are total of 8 students and we are selecting 3 of them, then the probability that Kim will be selected is simply 3/8 (she has 3 chances out of 8).

Thank you bunuel! However, I don't get your approach well. Could you explain your logic? I believe that the probability of picking somenone in the second task is different from picking someone in the first because the number of elements available to pick changes. That's why my approach is step by step.

The wording of the question makes it harder then it is. The question basically asks: what is the probability that Kim is among the first 3 students out of 8, which is 3/8.

One can also do: $$P=\frac{C^1_1*C^2_7}{C^3_8}=\frac{3}{8}$$, where $$C^1_1$$ is # of ways to select Kim, $$C^2_7$$ is # of ways to select any 2 students out of 7 left and $$C^3_8$$ is total # of ways to select 3 students from 8;

Or: you can find the probability that among 3 students selected to complete the tasks there won't be Kim and subtract it from 1:
$$P=1-\frac{C^3_7}{C^3_8}=\frac{3}{8}$$;

Or: the same with probability approach: $$P=1-\frac{7}{8}*\frac{6}{7}*\frac{5}{6}=\frac{3}{8}$$.

As you can see first approach is easiest and shortest one.

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A certain class consists of 8 students, including Kim. Each day, three tasks must be completed and are assigned as follows: one of the 8 students is selected at random to complete Task A, one of the remaining 7 students is selected at random to complete Task B, and one of the remaining six students is selected at random to complete Task C. What is the probability that Kim will be selected to complete one of the three tasks?

Since there are total of 8 students and we are selecting 3 of them, then the probability that Kim will be selected is simply 3/8 (she has 3 chances out of 8).

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17 Feb 2012, 08:12
Bunuel wrote:
metallicafan wrote:
A certain class consists of 8 students, including Kim. Each day, three tasks must be completed and are assigned as follows: one of the 8 students is selected at random to complete Task A, one of the remaining 7 students is selected at random to complete Task B, and one of the remaining six students is selected at random to complete Task C. What is the probability that Kim will be selected to complete one of the three tasks?

Since there are total of 8 students and we are selecting 3 of them, then the probability that Kim will be selected is simply 3/8 (she has 3 chances out of 8).

Thank you bunuel! However, I don't get your approach well. Could you explain your logic? I believe that the probability of picking somenone in the second task is different from picking someone in the first because the number of elements available to pick changes. That's why my approach is step by step.
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17 Feb 2012, 08:49
Thank you Bunuel!, I have updated the post with the choices.
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17 Feb 2012, 10:00
Thankx Bunuel, the explanation covers all possible ways of solving the problem
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One more way to sove this is to reverse the logic:
NOT chosen on first, second and third pick leads to the following calculation:
7/8 * 6/7 * 5/6 = 0,625. Since we are looking for the probability Kim gets chosen it's 1-0,625 = 0,375 = 3/8
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I agree with B 3/8

third task = 7/8*6/7*1/6 = 1/8

chance that she gets picked for one of these is 1/8+1/8+1/8 or 3/8
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03 May 2014, 23:35
metallicafan wrote:
A certain class consists of 8 students, including Kim. Each day, three tasks must be completed and are assigned as follows: one of the 8 students is selected at random to complete Task A, one of the remaining 7 students is selected at random to complete Task B, and one of the remaining six students is selected at random to complete Task C. What is the probability that Kim will be selected to complete one of the three tasks?
(A) 1/3
(B) 3/8
(C) 1/24
(D) 1/336
(E) 1/512

In solved in this way:

$$\frac{1}{8} * \frac{7}{7} * \frac{6}{6} = \frac{1}{8}$$

$$\frac{7}{8} * \frac{1}{7} * \frac{6}{6} = \frac{1}{8}$$

$$\frac{7}{8} * \frac{6}{7} * \frac{1}{6} = \frac{1}{8}$$

Therefore: $$\frac{1}{8} + \frac{1}{8} + \frac{1}{8} = [m]\frac{3}{8}$$[/m]

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Hello,

for completion of task B - why 7/8 * 1/7* 6/6??

for completion of task C - why 7/8 * 6/7* 1/6??

plx explain the one in BOLD especially..

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04 May 2014, 03:01
msharmita wrote:
metallicafan wrote:
A certain class consists of 8 students, including Kim. Each day, three tasks must be completed and are assigned as follows: one of the 8 students is selected at random to complete Task A, one of the remaining 7 students is selected at random to complete Task B, and one of the remaining six students is selected at random to complete Task C. What is the probability that Kim will be selected to complete one of the three tasks?
(A) 1/3
(B) 3/8
(C) 1/24
(D) 1/336
(E) 1/512

In solved in this way:

$$\frac{1}{8} * \frac{7}{7} * \frac{6}{6} = \frac{1}{8}$$

$$\frac{7}{8} * \frac{1}{7} * \frac{6}{6} = \frac{1}{8}$$

$$\frac{7}{8} * \frac{6}{7} * \frac{1}{6} = \frac{1}{8}$$

Therefore: $$\frac{1}{8} + \frac{1}{8} + \frac{1}{8} = [m]\frac{3}{8}$$[/m]

Is there another way to solve it faster?

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Hello,

for completion of task B - why 7/8 * 1/7* 6/6??

for completion of task C - why 7/8 * 6/7* 1/6??

plx explain the one in BOLD especially..

Sharmita

P(Kim)*P(any)*P(any) = $$\frac{1}{8} * \frac{7}{7} * \frac{6}{6} = \frac{1}{8}$$

P(any bu Kim)*P(Kim)*P(any) = $$\frac{7}{8} * \frac{1}{7} * \frac{6}{6} = \frac{1}{8}$$

P(any but Kim)*P(any but Kim)*P(any) = $$\frac{7}{8} * \frac{6}{7} * \frac{1}{6} = \frac{1}{8}$$

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24 Aug 2016, 08:46
Hi Bunuel,

Should the question be read as "What is the probability that Kim will be selected to complete ATLEAST one of the three tasks?"

Or should it be read as "What is the probability that Kim will be selected to complete EXACTLY one of the three tasks?"

I felt the question was slightly ambiguous. If so, will such type of questions appear on the GMAT ?
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24 Aug 2016, 08:51
Sorry for the confusion. I get it know. Since the left-over tasks are to be done only by the remaining people, one person can only do one task. So in this case both mean the same.
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12 Dec 2019, 07:40
Hi Bunuel ,

Please clarify my below doubts. It will help me a lot in other questions too. I am very much confused.

One can also do: P=C11∗C27C38=38P=C11∗C72C83=38, where C11C11 is # of ways to select Kim, C27C72 is # of ways to select any 2 students out of 7 left and C38C83 is total # of ways to select 3 students from 8;

In your above approach, How you have taken C^1_1 ? I always took C^1_8 as we need to select 1 from 8.

Thanks a lot
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