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I rejected B because it uses the construction - such X as Y. It didnt sound intuitive to me. Is this the correct idiom? @VeritasPrep GMATNinja.
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'Having majored' and ' increasingly' incorrect
But, why?
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In D- apart from the error of "like those of..", is "have been becoming" an error too? If yes then how does the meaning changes because of the use of "have been becoming" in this option?
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I rejected B because it uses the construction - such X as Y. It didnt sound intuitive to me. Is this the correct idiom? @VeritasPrep GMATNinja.
Yup, this construction is totally fine! There's absolutely no reason why we can't separate "such" from "as."

For more examples, check out this question and this question and this question.

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'Having majored' and ' increasingly' incorrect
But, why?
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(E) As business grows more complex, students having majored in such specialized areas as finance and marketing are being increasingly successful in the job market.
"Having majored" indicates that only students who majored in finance/marketing/etc in the past will be successful in the job market. That doesn't quite fit with the beginning of the sentence: "As business grows more complex...". Instead, it makes more sense to say that students who major in these areas now and in the future are becoming more successful as business grows more complex.

There's really not a major issue with the word "increasingly" in this sentence -- not every split makes a certain answer choice right and another one wrong! The answer choices that include "increasingly" can be eliminated for other reasons, so there's no need to worry about that specific split.

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In D- apart from the error of "like those of..", is "have been becoming" an error too? If yes then how does the meaning changes because of the use of "have been becoming" in this option?
"Those of" is the clearest error in (D), but yes -- "have been becoming" is not great either. Check out this post for an explanation of this issue.
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Guys,
I dropped B due to the use of "More and more" which sounded wordy. It was obviously not the right choice, as B is the OA, but I wonder, if in general "more and more" is considered wordy?
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I dropped B due to the use of "More and more" which sounded wordy. It was obviously not the right choice, as B is the OA, but I wonder, if in general "more and more" is considered wordy?
GMAT SC is all about priorities, and "wordiness" should be a very low priority as you eliminate answer choices. There are a couple of reasons for this:

    1) Wordiness is a bit subjective, and you risk eliminating a correct answer that YOU think is wordy, but the GMAT thinks is fine.
    2) If you focus on something squishy like wordiness, you might miss out on much more glaring issues with the grammar or meaning of the sentence.

Overall, it's best to narrow your focus to definite errors and meaning issues first, and then ONLY if all else fails do you have to consider wordiness as a reason to eliminate an answer choice. For this question, there are high-priority grammar errors in (A), (C), and (D) ("like" is incorrect in (A) and (D), "those of" is incorrect in (C)). (E) distorts the meaning of the sentence as described in this post.

So, while "more and more" might not be a phrase that you or I would choose to put in this sentence, (B) is the only option left. At the end of the day, it doesn't matter whether "more and more" would generally be considered wordy -- it is a low-priority reason to eliminate an answer choice, and here it doesn't come into play at all.

For more on this overall approach to SC, check out this article.

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Nevernevergiveup Hi, I read your explanation and understood all the points, although my doubt is regarding "more and more" used in answer choice B. Wouldn't this phrase be considered redundant on the gmat? I thought this would be considered colloquial English. Kindly guide me where I might be wrong here so that I can understand better. Thank you.
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As business grows more complex, students majoring in specialized areas like those of finance and marketing have been becoming increasingly successful in the job market.


(A) majoring in specialized areas like those of finance and marketing have been becoming increasingly

(B) who major in such specialized areas as finance and marketing are becoming more and more

(C) who majored in specialized areas such as those of finance and marketing are being increasingly

(D) who major in specialized areas like those of finance and marketing have been becoming more and more

(E) having majored in such specialized areas as finance and marketing are being increasingly

A uses "have been becoming" when the sentence is about present.

C and E incorrectly use "being increasingly successful", which is an awkward phrase.

D has the same issue as A but with more words.

B is the most correct because the option uses the correct tense "are becoming"
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KarishmaB Ma'am,

I wanted to understand the meaning of tenses used here.
In this question stem the non-underlined part of the sentence is in simple present tense, so we should use the same tense. Hence, the usage of present perfect tense is incorrect here. Right?
Now the meaning conveyed in the options that use present perfect tense is that business is growing complex today, but the students had been majoring much earlier than that. The original meaning is that as the business grows complex, the students who are majoring in the present will be successful in the job market. Not students who majored in the past or who have been majoring before the current time.

Does my reasoning make sense?
Please evaluate and share your two cents.
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KarishmaB Ma'am,

I wanted to understand the meaning of tenses used here.
In this question stem the non-underlined part of the sentence is in simple present tense, so we should use the same tense. Hence, the usage of present perfect tense is incorrect here. Right?
Now the meaning conveyed in the options that use present perfect tense is that business is growing complex today, but the students had been majoring much earlier than that. The original meaning is that as the business grows complex, the students who are majoring in the present will be successful in the job market. Not students who majored in the past or who have been majoring before the current time.

Does my reasoning make sense?
Please evaluate and share your two cents.

The sentence conveys an ongoing process of cause and effect.
As business grows more complex, students who major in finance are becoming more and more successful.

We do not use present perfect because the success is not limited to students who majored in the past up till now. It is an ongoing process so those who major in the future too will benefit. Hence we say "students who major in ..."
This is the same reason we don't use present perfect continuous 'have been becoming...' It doesn't give the sense of a process which will continue in the future too.
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As business grows more complex,
students
majoring in specialized areas like those of finance and marketing
have been becoming increasingly successful in the job market.

(A) majoring in specialized areas like those of finance and marketing have been becoming increasingly
>> examples are shown via such as & those of is wordy and unnecessary points to areas.
(B) who major in such specialized areas as finance and marketing are becoming more and more
(C) who majored in specialized areas such as those of finance and marketing are being increasingly
>> are becoming is better compared to are being.
(D) who major in specialized areas like those of finance and marketing have been becoming more and more
(E) having majored in such specialized areas as finance and marketing are being increasingly.

Is , C "who majored" incorrect because if they have already majored then they r no more student?
Experts please correct.I dont see any grammatical issue here.




Hi Ashish,
Thank you for posting your query here. :)

Before I respond to you doubt I must say you have done a great job analyzing this sentence. However, I will like to add one point:

As you already mentioned "are becoming is better compared to are being", it is correct that "are becoming" is preferable over "are being", but "are being" is certainly not incorrect.

In choice C if we say "students who majored", then we don't include the current students in "the students". Now, we are talking only about the students who majored in the past whereas per the original sentence, it's stated as a fact true in the present context. So, it's applicable for both type of students.



Hope this helps! :)
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Is there a preference between "students majoring" vs. "students who major"? The correct answer choice obviously has "students who major" but "students majoring" is simpler. I did not see this split mentioned. Thank you :)
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Is there a preference between "students majoring" vs. "students who major"? The correct answer choice obviously has "students who major" but "students majoring" is simpler. I did not see this split mentioned. Thank you :)

Hey woohoo921

Thank you for the question.


Yes, there is indeed a difference between "students majoring" and "students who major". Allow me to explain:

The verb-ing modifier "majoring" is essentially rooted in the present continuous tense, hence the name "present participle". It generally refers to actions in continuity, even though there are other applications as well. So, in itself, the phrase 'students majoring' also hints at students currently pursuing a certain major (finance and marketing). For example:

    a. Students majoring in Finance and Marketing have placement drives in December this year. (A more appropriate use of the verb-ing modifier)

However, as per the context of the official question, we're talking about the success of business school students in the job market after graduation and not during college.

    Choice B: As business grows more complex, students who major in such specialized areas as finance and marketing are becoming more and more successful in the job market.


This means we're talking about the successful careers of students who specialize in finance and marketing. In order to describe such students, we need to use the simple present tense "who major" to indicate that we're referring to students who graduate with majors in finance and marketing.


So, yes, "students who major" is certainly better than "students majoring".


I hope this helps improve your understanding of verb-ing modifiers and simple present tense verbs.


Happy Learning!

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Hi KarishmaB

(E) having majored in such specialized areas as finance and marketing are being increasingly
Why E is incorrect?

Having majored..., students are being increasingly conveys a logical meaning. Why it is incorrect then?

Is the usage of "Are being" correct in this sentence?

Thank you!
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Hi KarishmaB

(E) having majored in such specialized areas as finance and marketing are being increasingly
Why E is incorrect?

Having majored..., students are being increasingly conveys a logical meaning. Why it is incorrect then?

Is the usage of "Are being" correct in this sentence?

Thank you!

It doesn't show continuity. We are using perfect participle here "having majored ...". It shows that an event happened before another.
Students majored in these areas and are now becoming increasingly successful.

But what about those students who are majoring now and will major in the future?

'As business grows more complex' - simple present shows continuity and that is what the main clause should show too. 'As A happens, B happens'

Also, I don't like the use of 'being' here. It shows a temporary state e.g. 'He is being over sensitive' (normally he isn't)
So 'becoming successful' is better than 'being successful'
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