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Barry Manilow, whose legal name is Barry Alan Pincus, is a 70-year-old musician who has played with Sting, Elton John, and Bette Midler, among others, a genial man with a face and voice known around the world.

(A) among others, a
(B) among others; a
(C) and is among others a
(D) among others, but also a
(E) and, among others, is also a

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Barry Manilow, whose legal name is Barry Alan Pincus, is a 70-year-old musician who has played with Sting, Elton John, and Bette Midler, among others, a genial man with a face and voice known around the world.

A) among others, a
B) among others; a
C) and is among others a
D) among others, but also a
E) and, among others, is also a



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Here is the structure of the sentence:

Barry Manilow - Main Subject
, whose legal name is Barry Alan Pincus, - Non-Essential Modifier
is a 70-year-old musician - Main Predicate
who has played with Sting, Elton John, and Bette Midler, among others - Essential Modifier
, a genial man with a face and voice known around the world. - Appositive

I understand you are confused about 'among others'. Here is another example to help you understand:
The certifications she has earned are CFA, CPA and CA, among others.

What does this sentence mean? It means that CFA, CPA and CA are 3 of the certifications she has earned. There are others too. 'Among others' is similar to 'etc'.

Does (A) make sense now?
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Barry Manilow, whose legal name is Barry Alan Pincus, is a 70-year-old musician who has played with Sting, Elton John, and Bette Midler, among others, a genial man with a face and voice known around the world.

(A) among others, a
(B) among others; a
(C) and is among others a
(D) among others, but also a
(E) and, among others, is also a


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This difficult sentence contains many confusing modifiers. Without using the slash-and-burn technique, it is unlikely that you will be able to figure out which choice contains an allowable structure. In (A), the correct answer, the sentence is really this: Barry Manilow is a 70-year-old musician, a genial man with a face and voice known around the world. Everything else (particularly the “among others” which makes it so confusing!) is garbage that should be removed. This type of appositive modifier at the end of the sentence (even after getting rid of all the garbage) is fairly unusual but shows up sometimes in language. Consider another example sentence with this structure: In 1986, John fell 50 feet in the Grand Canyon, an accident that changed his life forever. This structure is employed when you want to use an appositive phrase to give more information about the sentence as a whole. The other four answer choices all contain fatal flaws. In (B) the semicolon is incorrect as what follows is not a complete sentence. In (C) and (E) the “among others” is illogically placed. The “among others” must immediately follow the list of people that he has played with. (C) and (E) suggest somehow illogically that he is a genial man “among others” Also, this part of the sentence at the end is not a separate additional fact added on to the fact that he is a 70-year-old musician. Rather, it is giving more information (modifying) what type of 70-year-old musician he is (a genial one with a voice and face known around the world.) (D) is wrong for that exact reason but is even worse because it uses the improper contrasting conjunction “but” to link the thought at the end. Answer is (A).
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Totally stumpled on how A can be right ? Provided no flow between the clauses. What is wrong with E
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Totally stumpled on how A can be right ? Provided no flow between the clauses. What is wrong with E



Yeah, even i thought the same. May be the OA is wrong- My guess.


NeverSurrender : Can you please post the OE for this?
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Answer is A

A: Correct: This sentence is broken up into several parts and it is obvious that this answer choice isn't an immediate "right" answer. However, it seems to function as an appositive at the end of the sentence -- not where appositives usually occur, but often done to place special emphasis.
B: Incorrect: The semi-colon is incorrect punctuation (hint can both parts stand alone?)
C: Incorrect: The inclusion of "and is" causes us to think that among others has to do with Barry Manilow -- this answer choice is illogical and should be an immediate red flag. Also, the among others needs to be immediately following the list.
D: Incorrect: The "but" makes it seem as if being a genial man is in contrast with playing with those other artists
E: Incorrect: Refer to the second part of C

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NeverSurrender wrote:
Barry Manilow, whose legal name is Barry Alan Pincus, is a 70-year-old musician who has played with Sting, Elton John, and Bette Midler, among others, a genial man with a face and voice known around the world.

A) among others, a
B) among others; a
C) and is among others a
D) among others, but also a
E) and, among others, is also a



Responding to a pm:

Here is the structure of the sentence:

Barry Manilow - Main Subject
, whose legal name is Barry Alan Pincus, - Non-Essential Modifier
is a 70-year-old musician - Main Predicate
who has played with Sting, Elton John, and Bette Midler, among others - Essential Modifier
, a genial man with a face and voice known around the world. - Appositive

I understand you are confused about 'among others'. Here is another example to help you understand:
The certifications she has earned are CFA, CPA and CA, among others.

What does this sentence mean? It means that CFA, CPA and CA are 3 of the certifications she has earned. There are others too. 'Among others' is similar to 'etc'.

Does (A) make sense now?


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Can you please clarify what the Appositive ( , a genial man with a face and voice known around the world. ) is modifying?
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NeverSurrender wrote:
Barry Manilow, whose legal name is Barry Alan Pincus, is a 70-year-old musician who has played with Sting, Elton John, and Bette Midler, among others, a genial man with a face and voice known around the world.

A) among others, a
B) among others; a
C) and is among others a
D) among others, but also a
E) and, among others, is also a



Responding to a pm:

Here is the structure of the sentence:

Barry Manilow - Main Subject
, whose legal name is Barry Alan Pincus, - Non-Essential Modifier
is a 70-year-old musician - Main Predicate
who has played with Sting, Elton John, and Bette Midler, among others - Essential Modifier
, a genial man with a face and voice known around the world. - Appositive

I understand you are confused about 'among others'. Here is another example to help you understand:
The certifications she has earned are CFA, CPA and CA, among others.

What does this sentence mean? It means that CFA, CPA and CA are 3 of the certifications she has earned. There are others too. 'Among others' is similar to 'etc'.

Does (A) make sense now?


Bringing up an old thread

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Can you please clarify what the Appositive ( , a genial man with a face and voice known around the world. ) is modifying?


The appositive is modifying "a 70-year-old musician" which refers to Barry Manilow.
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Hi Karishma,

I went through this question today.

I have one doubt regarding the usage of appositive modifier. Appositives should be placed close to what they are modifying and in this sentence it is too far from what it suppose to modify.

Isnt this incorrect on GMAT?

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Hi Karishma,

I went through this question today.

I have one doubt regarding the usage of appositive modifier. Appositives should be placed close to what they are modifying and in this sentence it is too far from what it suppose to modify.

Isnt this incorrect on GMAT?

Thanks in advance.

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Both, the essential modifier "who..." and the appositive should be close to the noun "musician". So they are placed one after the other. The structure is relatively rare but not incorrect. Anyway, you are not required to re-structure - you are required to just identify the structure.
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Thanks a lot.

I read somewhere that consecutive modifiers modifying the same entity is incorrect on GMAT.

Can you please tell if it is more do with intended meaning of sentence then thinking about consecutive modifiers and doing the elimination.
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Great,

The reason I got confused was because of where "among others" is placed. I though it should have been " who has, among others, placed with...".
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The reason given for B not being the answer is that what follows the semi colon is not an independent clause.I find it hard to identify whether a clause is independent or not.Can someone please explain why "a genial man with a face and voice known around the world" is not an independent clause ? Is it because we don't know who is the person the clause is talking about ?
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Here is my thought on this question. I encountered it on my veritas cat. As we all know in SC we need to find the answer that most clearly expresses the thought. It is possible as Karishma noted that answer A is grammatically wrong. However, I think even if it is not grammatically wrong, it is still one of the worst sentences - confusing, I have ever met in SC section.
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One doubt i have is that ... "among others" can modify both clauses before and after it ..isn't it so?...
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The second clause is a independent clause right??
The semicolon rightly seperates two clauses, then why is Answer choice B wrong??
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The second clause is a independent clause right??
The semicolon rightly seperates two clauses, then why is Answer choice B wrong??


The sentence should be complete before and after semicolon.

a genial man with a face and voice known around the world --> is not a complete sentence.
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OA is grammatically wrong. This is a faulty question and shouldn't be referred to.
By itself the appositive cannot even be modifying "a musician".
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OA is grammatically wrong. This is a faulty question and shouldn't be referred to.
By itself the appositive cannot even be modifying "a musician".


I agree with you. The appositive modifier should generally touch the noun it modifies, and at best (ignoring "among others"), it modifies "Bette Midler". I feel that the author of this question got confused between appositive and absolute phrase, which does not refer to a noun, but the whole clause, and hence does not need to touch any noun whatsoever.
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OA is grammatically wrong. This is a faulty question and shouldn't be referred to.
By itself the appositive cannot even be modifying "a musician".


I agree with you. The appositive modifier should generally touch the noun it modifies, and at best (ignoring "among others"), it modifies "Bette Midler". I feel that the author of this question got confused between appositive and absolute phrase, which does not refer to a noun, but the whole clause, and hence does not need to touch any noun whatsoever.


Glad to see support from experienced GMAT-takers like yourself sayantanc2k :)

Best case this sentence can be rephrased as:-
A genial man with a face and voice known around the world, Barry Manilow, whose legal name is Barry Alan Pincus, is a 70-year-old musician who has played with Sting, Elton John, and Bette Midler, among others.

Sounds horrible though.
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