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Officially March 21st, but yes they'll probably start notifying a few lucky ones on the week of the 14th.
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Thanks!!

I got really good feedback for my interview. And UNC is the only school I interviewed with. So keeping my fingers crossed. If only some one knew how much weight the interview have, I could may be relax a bit.
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what do you guys think of UNC vs Georgetown? seems UNC has better recruiting companies but lower employment rates but that's 09 number...
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If we ever needed any more confirmation that interviews don't matter a whole lot.

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Linda Abraham: Okay, great. And what is the role of the interview in the evaluation process?

Sherry Wallace: Despite what most people think, I don't know anyone who interviews their way into a program.

Linda Abraham: Usually you interview your way out of a program.

Sherry Wallace: Yes. I probably have known a few people who have revealed a little something more in an interview that may not have been for us. And I appreciate the sensitivity because I know I personally feel like if I could just get in front of somebody and talk to them, I can be more compelling. But the truth is, and this is why we are currently interviewing by invitation only -- and that is because there are some candidates that no matter how engaging, no matter how well they articulate themselves, there are going to be things about their candidacy that just don't make them competitive with the pool that they're being considered against. And so we try to say, rather than interviewing everyone knowing that to X% of these people the interview is not really going to matter because they don't have adequate work experience, or because based on their English proficiency level, it is not going to go well. Or because of some other thing that we've seen in their application, their academic performance or whatever else -- there's really nothing they can do in this interview that's going to overcome that. So that's why it's not important that we interview everyone.
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here's the link to that interview https://www.accepted.com/chat/Transcript ... mpaign=Q&A
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If we ever needed any more confirmation that interviews don't matter a whole lot.

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Sherry Wallace: Despite what most people think, I don't know anyone who interviews their way into a program.

Linda Abraham: Usually you interview your way out of a program.

Sherry Wallace: Yes. I probably have known a few people who have revealed a little something more in an interview that may not have been for us. And I appreciate the sensitivity because I know I personally feel like if I could just get in front of somebody and talk to them, I can be more compelling. But the truth is, and this is why we are currently interviewing by invitation only -- and that is because there are some candidates that no matter how engaging, no matter how well they articulate themselves, there are going to be things about their candidacy that just don't make them competitive with the pool that they're being considered against. And so we try to say, rather than interviewing everyone knowing that to X% of these people the interview is not really going to matter because they don't have adequate work experience, or because based on their English proficiency level, it is not going to go well. Or because of some other thing that we've seen in their application, their academic performance or whatever else -- there's really nothing they can do in this interview that's going to overcome that. So that's why it's not important that we interview everyone.
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So does this mean that people who were given great feedback after the interview does not have increased chances? Or does an interview invite means they have passed the other hurdles like GMAT/GPA etc??

Or am I getting it wrong??
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Normally, getting an interview means you've met some qualities adcom likes, but KF interviews 82% of all applicants according to BW stats from 2 classes ago. She was pretty blatant that a good interview isn't going to seal an admit or even contribute strongly to consideration. In the end, the strength of your applicant pool is going to be the deciding factor and I guess a lot of that just comes down to luck.
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judging the normal Indian applicant pool, I dont stand a chance then. But considering that I am a female and non-It who wants to go into non-profit, I am not sure. I do know that my GMAT is not stellar with just a 650 as compared ot the applicant pool.
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Just a general comment, not aimed at you at all or even solely nonprofit people, but I don't think it would make sense for adcom to put a lot of heavy consideration into what you say you're going to do post-MBA, as long it's not outlandish, nonsensical or extremely hard for them to place you. I know of so many examples of nonprofits that say they're staying in that space going in but never do coming out. Some of that is just goals changing but I think adcoms have been around long enough to take everyone's stated career aspirations with a truckload of salt.

But back to the topic at hand, you don't really know specifically what KF's Indian applicant pool is like. Not like every strong Indian applicant is applying to every Top 25 school.
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Yeah most Indian applicants apply to top 25 schools and 90% of them have awesome GPA and GMAT. The only thing its different from them is the non-profit part of my application, which is rare for that pool.

My hope on KFBS is now very very low. Lets see what will happen. Will get to know in 10 days' time.
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Normally, getting an interview means you've met some qualities adcom likes, but KF interviews 82% of all applicants according to BW stats from 2 classes ago. She was pretty blatant that a good interview isn't going to seal an admit or even contribute strongly to consideration. In the end, the strength of your applicant pool is going to be the deciding factor and I guess a lot of that just comes down to luck.
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Linda Abraham: Great, okay. Thank you very much. Monica has posed a question; how many applicants do you invite for interview before submitting their applications? What is the percentage?

Sherry Wallace: Monica, I sure wish I could answer that. We actually don't have stats on that, but I'm going to give you my best guess. First of all, I think we probably invite 70% of all applicants to interview. Now, of that 70% who is getting an invitation, when do those invitations come? I would say maybe half of them are getting it fairly early, before an application is complete, but the other half are probably getting it after someone has seen at least some part of their application -- and that's a guess.
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Normally, getting an interview means you've met some qualities adcom likes, but KF interviews 82% of all applicants according to BW stats from 2 classes ago. She was pretty blatant that a good interview isn't going to seal an admit or even contribute strongly to consideration. In the end, the strength of your applicant pool is going to be the deciding factor and I guess a lot of that just comes down to luck.


Linda Abraham: Great, okay. Thank you very much. Monica has posed a question; how many applicants do you invite for interview before submitting their applications? What is the percentage?

Sherry Wallace: Monica, I sure wish I could answer that. We actually don't have stats on that, but I'm going to give you my best guess. First of all, I think we probably invite 70% of all applicants to interview. Now, of that 70% who is getting an invitation, when do those invitations come? I would say maybe half of them are getting it fairly early, before an application is complete, but the other half are probably getting it after someone has seen at least some part of their application -- and that's a guess.
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So I think look at it like you made it through an initial cut. If your interview went as well as you think it did, you then made it through the next cut. Having seen some of the people I know and a lot of the posts on this board get accepted and denied from various high and low ranked programs, I think it's safe to say there is no way to predict the adcom's decisions. They have an idea in their heads how the class is going to look, and your chances all depend on how the other applicants compare to you. Don't try to guess your chance based on this interview.
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is unc better than gtown in consulting and banking as well?
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yeah i do notice a few extra consulting and banking companies on UNC like mckinsey bain etc. not appearing on gtown..
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big 3 MC, have a few "target schools" on their site that they dont actually go to campus other than for 1st rd interviews. UNC is one. You have to do a resume drop and hope they invite you to interview.

Both school are horrible for top MC recruiting. Your going to have a lot of work to at either. The slight difference is negligible.

THis isnt the place to ask. Call the career services dept or a student at UNC/Gtown. Ask them "does Mckinsey come to campus?" they will say NO
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case in point ( sorry for the pun)

here are pother schools on MCkinseys "list"

Babson, Penn State, Purdue, Maryland and a bunch more like that.

You have to dig deeper than the website.

The alumni from any school that has a page on the site are HR people.
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