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I'll pay around my deadline, won't shed with my monies until I have to! TV FTW. well...
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I'll pay around my deadline, won't shed with my monies until I have to! TV FTW. well...
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As an ED applicant, what happens if you don't pay and decide to join another school? Would you just lose your spot?
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I'll pay around my deadline, won't shed with my monies until I have to! TV FTW. well...

As an ED applicant, what happens if you don't pay and decide to join another school? Would you just lose your spot?
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Not too sure, but you have 2 weeks to pay the deposit anyway, so not a whole hell of a lot of time :)
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you get a nasty email from adcom and are permabanned from anything columbia related :) and you can never send your children there either
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you get a nasty email from adcom and are permabanned from anything columbia related :) and you can never send your children there either
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You're also never allowed in NYC again and you can't work for any company with CBS alumni.
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Oh yes, the ban from NYC is a given, obviously. I asked coz there are a few links online that discuss a possible lawsuit from CBS for those who didn't pay their deposit and joined another school. It seems excessive so wanted to see if anyone heard anything.

Of course, if the fine CBS adcom is monitoring this thread, please note that I have no plans to do this, just curious. :wink:
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Hello,, Im a CBS ED 2012 applicant..
I got my interview invitation last thursday (10/19) and they provided me with a list of interviewers that are available in my location...
So I sent out my interview request to some of the interviewers..
Up until now I havent got any feedback from them!
The adcom strongly recommends an interview completed in two weeks since the invitation..
and it's already been a week..
I am allowed to contact only 9 interviewers.. and if I dont get feedback from ANY of them in the next 7 days, what should I do?? Should I contact the adcom and explain the situation so that they could give me an alternative to the adcom interview, i.e. phone interview with the adcom?
Anyone in similar situation?
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I had the same issue a few weeks ago. I actually got a reminder email from CBS once the deadline was approaching. I found that people who listed their personal emails were more responsive. I noticed (through LinkedIn) that some of the interviewers who listed their work email were no longer with the company.
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Oh yes, the ban from NYC is a given, obviously. I asked coz there are a few links online that discuss a possible lawsuit from CBS for those who didn't pay their deposit and joined another school. It seems excessive so wanted to see if anyone heard anything.

Of course, if the fine CBS adcom is monitoring this thread, please note that I have no plans to do this, just curious. :wink:
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I've heard from other schools of situations where people even paid their tuition deposits and decided not to enroll. I don't think the school had an issue with it. I'm no lawyer, but I can't see how they can sue you if you haven't enrolled in a class. Where's the legal consideration on their part?
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Oh yes, the ban from NYC is a given, obviously. I asked coz there are a few links online that discuss a possible lawsuit from CBS for those who didn't pay their deposit and joined another school. It seems excessive so wanted to see if anyone heard anything.

Of course, if the fine CBS adcom is monitoring this thread, please note that I have no plans to do this, just curious. :wink:

I've heard from other schools of situations where people even paid their tuition deposits and decided not to enroll. I don't think the school had an issue with it. I'm no lawyer, but I can't see how they can sue you if you haven't enrolled in a class. Where's the legal consideration on their part?
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No lawsuit, at admissions events they mention that every year some ppl make the deposit and end up not going. Nothing will happen to you. But it is dishonest!
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For real? Hm... i think fudgey got one too? I could be wrong...
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I have not gotten such an email either.
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Oh yes, the ban from NYC is a given, obviously. I asked coz there are a few links online that discuss a possible lawsuit from CBS for those who didn't pay their deposit and joined another school. It seems excessive so wanted to see if anyone heard anything.

Of course, if the fine CBS adcom is monitoring this thread, please note that I have no plans to do this, just curious. :wink:

I've heard from other schools of situations where people even paid their tuition deposits and decided not to enroll. I don't think the school had an issue with it. I'm no lawyer, but I can't see how they can sue you if you haven't enrolled in a class. Where's the legal consideration on their part?
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Then what's the point of the ED "Statement of Commitment"?

"As an Early Decision candidate to Columbia Business School, I am committed to attending Columbia Business School, and will withdraw all applications and decline all offers from other schools upon admission to Columbia Business School."
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Oh yes, the ban from NYC is a given, obviously. I asked coz there are a few links online that discuss a possible lawsuit from CBS for those who didn't pay their deposit and joined another school. It seems excessive so wanted to see if anyone heard anything.

Of course, if the fine CBS adcom is monitoring this thread, please note that I have no plans to do this, just curious. :wink:

I've heard from other schools of situations where people even paid their tuition deposits and decided not to enroll. I don't think the school had an issue with it. I'm no lawyer, but I can't see how they can sue you if you haven't enrolled in a class. Where's the legal consideration on their part?

Then what's the point of the ED "Statement of Commitment"?

"As an Early Decision candidate to Columbia Business School, I am committed to attending Columbia Business School, and will withdraw all applications and decline all offers from other schools upon admission to Columbia Business School."
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Some of us were discussing this exact same topic in chat yesterday.

Some feel that CBS set it up for people to use ED to increase their chances of acceptance, that way they can have an ace in their pocket when applying to other schools. While I do think it's shady to keep applying after gaining ED acceptance, many people feel as if they have no choice if they want CBS to be among the schools they're choosing from.
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Then what's the point of the ED "Statement of Commitment"?

"As an Early Decision candidate to Columbia Business School, I am committed to attending Columbia Business School, and will withdraw all applications and decline all offers from other schools upon admission to Columbia Business School."
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I think this is really the discourage individuals from applying in this round if they are not 100% serious about Columbia as their first choice. I think it is useful in that it allows them to view candidates that place Columbia as their top choice (worst case top 2-3 if they are debating to "honor" the statement of commitment). From my view the adcom takes these applicants and views getting about a 90-95% yield of the offers made and thus tries their best to identify candidates that fit needs for the upcoming class and would be successful in the program.

The ED program truely serves 2 benefits in my view. It gives the adcom a subset of applicants that are more likely to accept an offer increasing their yield percent and helping their rankings. It allows applicants to potentially find out early about getting in to school and only having to apply to 1 or 2 schools as opposed to their full suite.

I do believe applying to any early round gives applicants a slight advantage as adcoms are more lenient during these rounds. I have no proof or evidence of this being the case, just my view of this round for the schools that offer it. With that said, its not like everyone gets in. I still think you would have had to be competitive during the regular rounds to gain admission during this round.
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Some of us were discussing this exact same topic in chat yesterday.

Some feel that CBS set it up for people to use ED to increase their chances of acceptance, that way they can have an ace in their pocket when applying to other schools. While I do think it's shady to keep applying after gaining ED acceptance, many people feel as if they have no choice if they want CBS to be among the schools they're choosing from.
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I would understand continuing applications to other schools for financial aid reasons. I'm afraid applying ED leaves you the short end of the stick when it comes to "merit based aid." After all, why give aid to someone who already committed 4 months ago (the aid gets announced in February) vs someone who has 2-3 schools to choose from. And "need bassed" aid may be even worse since that is even further out. From what I've heard at 2 schools that are stingy with aid (MIT and Columbia), it is good to have another admit to use as leverage. I know the admin staff always say ED vs RD doesn't affect aid, but I don't buy it.
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Just to chime in...I see ED more of a function of yield control.

I don't think CBS has ever posted its ED acceptance rates, but Columbia University (undergrad) and other undergrad programs with early decisions have: https://www.inlikeme.com/admission-stati ... gular.html or https://www.hernandezcollegeconsulting.c ... tatistics/

For example, with Columbia undergrad, there's a 14% difference between ED and RD (the acceptance rate is more than double). That is fairly significant. So, statistically speaking, you should have a better chance applying ED than RD.
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Any statistics on how many interview invites out so far for people who applied on on close to deadline (Oct 1st-5th)
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^I'd imagine that last year's numbers were good predictors...

They interviewed 27% of applicants and accepted 15%
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Any statistics on how many interview invites out so far for people who applied on on close to deadline (Oct 1st-5th)
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The only way we would have this statistic is if everyone on this forum is actively updating their profiles with dates and other details. If that is the case, the information should be available on the first post of this thread.
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GOT THE CALL!!!!!#!#!$!@$!@#!#!@#

Submit: 9/5
Review: 9/6
Interview Invite: 9/23
Interview: 10/9
Interview Complete: 10/17
Admit - ED: 10/25

I got a call from an Unknown number though. YAY!!
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GOT THE CALL!!!!!#!#!$!@$!@#!#!@#

Submit: 9/5
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Interview Invite: 9/23
Interview: 10/9
Interview Complete: 10/17
Admit - ED: 10/25

I got a call from an Unknown number though. YAY!!
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