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I got the sense that Duke has already awarded all of their scholarship money and that they won't have more money to give unless some of those offered money decline their offer.
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I hope not. R2 decisions haven't been announced and I have to imagine they've set some aside for that round.
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O Fuqua, I pine for thee, and yet you put me on the wait-list,
For as a scorned lover leaves, I take his place and clench my fist,
For being stand-by is far better than not being there at all -
But for how long must I wait before I receive thy call?
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Calling All Duke (Fuqua) 2011 Applicants 16 Mar 2011, 14:21
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O Fuqua, I pine for thee, and yet you put me on the wait-list,
For as a scorned lover leaves, I take his place and clench my fist,
For being stand-by is far better than not being there at all -
But for how long must I wait before I receive thy call?
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shr30, did you get a notification from Fuqua for R2 already? I didn't think that they were releasing them yet. Also, I think you're plagiarizing your Kellogg thread post. Or is it the reverse?
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@shr30, I'd like to know that also. For R2?

How important is it to go to Blue Devil Weekend? I looked at the agenda, and to be honest it doesn't seem too exciting, especially for someone such as myself who has been to campus once for a diversity weekend and then again to interview (eg, I've toured the campus, done fuqua friday, sat in on classes etc). Am I missing something?

That being said, I haven't been accepted haha, but even I was I wouldn't be able to go. However I heard that you can get special deals on apartments during that weekend, is that true? Do those deals only occur during that weekend?
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@shr30, I'd like to know that also. For R2?

How important is it to go to Blue Devil Weekend? I looked at the agenda, and to be honest it doesn't seem too exciting, especially for someone such as myself who has been to campus once for a diversity weekend and then again to interview (eg, I've toured the campus, done fuqua friday, sat in on classes etc). Am I missing something?

That being said, I haven't been accepted haha, but even I was I wouldn't be able to go. However I heard that you can get special deals on apartments during that weekend, is that true? Do those deals only occur during that weekend?
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I believe the apt. complexes are supposed to keep whatever deals they offer open for two weeks after BDW. I think BDW is like a campus visit on steroids. I hope to make it to meet other prospectives, to speak with the career services folks, to learn more about some of the clubs/centers and to find housing. That said, while I've reserved a hotel room, I'm not sure I'll be able to make the trip.
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How important is it to go to Blue Devil Weekend? I looked at the agenda, and to be honest it doesn't seem too exciting, especially for someone such as myself who has been to campus once for a diversity weekend and then again to interview (eg, I've toured the campus, done fuqua friday, sat in on classes etc). Am I missing something?

That being said, I haven't been accepted haha, but even I was I wouldn't be able to go. However I heard that you can get special deals on apartments during that weekend, is that true? Do those deals only occur during that weekend?
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I echo wschaeff's sentiment. BDW is helpful if you are deciding between a couple of different schools. You get to see who your potential classmates are and a glimpse of their personalities. After all, you are about to put make a huge investment, a few hundred dollars to test drive the program is probably worth it. Another benefit of BDW is that you can get apartment/roommate settled ahead of time, so you don't have to worry about it. Although the selection of apartment on the tour are limited (you do get a slight discount), and you can definitely find better deals on your own. I believe Fuqua Partners also put on some events for the spouse so that the partners can get a taste of things they can expect in the two years in Durham. I think if you have already been to Fuqua, have a good understanding of the culture/fit here, and have made up your mind, then you probably won't have much to gain from the event.
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What are the chances of getting the deposit deadline extended by a week? I don't have a compelling reason except that I am waiting to hear from another school.
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come up with a creative reason that is compelling enough and you should get the extension. also, if you're asking for one, then try to get in as long as you can get. you should not be in a position where you need another extension, coz tht would be hard to get.
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@jsmith54 yes indeed it's two different verses for two different states of mind... one defeat and one of waiting in the bushes for a opening..... I am on WL since R1 - so hoping it clears!

@VictoryMBA i'm WL from R1 - hoping against hope for a quick decision for R2... I'd probably drive up since i'm right here in atlanta for BDW...
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Yale vs Duke? I have a few days to make a decision. I'm interested in investment finance (maybe pe/vc/hedgefund). Appreciate your thoughts!!!
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What are the chances of getting the deposit deadline extended by a week? I don't have a compelling reason except that I am waiting to hear from another school.
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You should definitely ask just to see, but I tried earlier this week and they said no. I wanted to see if they would extend it until after admitted students weekend (all of the other schools I've been admitted to have their deadlines after their weekend).
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Yale vs Duke? I have a few days to make a decision. I'm interested in investment finance (maybe pe/vc/hedgefund). Appreciate your thoughts!!!
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Tough choice. Yale has some serious brand power but is a relatively young program. It could be an amazing school though now that they have received some serious money. Proximety to NYC will help with the investment finance. Probably some great alum connections too. Duke is also a great finance school though. I'd say go with the one you feel most excited and passionate about. Both are great choices.
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If it were me, I would pick Yale, but don't rely on just this for your answer.
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What do you guys think is the number 1, 2, and 3 reason why a candidate would be dinged post-interview?
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1) Ability to verbally articulate your case for business school clearly and concisely. Essentially, can this person recite it again next summer for their internship and the numerous networking events throughout the calendar year?
2) Presence - confidence, attire, is this person sociable? Can he/she network?
3) Enthusiasm and knowledge of the program.


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1 & 2) Of course, you don't have to display excellence the first two criteria, but I think you have to display the potential for excellence. The school knows that it will help you during the next two years, but they want people that bring something they can work with.

3) You will be a future ambassador for the school. They want to know you will speak passionately about them in the future, and they also want to know that you are likely to accept their admission offer.
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I don't think interviews are ever going to knock out strong candidates unless they were offensive. It's more for people on the bubble.
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I would lean towards Duke- the alumni network and community (Team Fuqua) is legendary. And Duke also has a formidable brand name
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Stating the obvious here.

They are like everything other factor of the application. Nothing will get you in or out (i.e. a 780 won't get you in, and a 650 won't keep you out). You can pass all areas of the interview and still not get in. It is not just about meeting the checklist, it is about meeting points on the checklist and doing so in a way that is better than the rest. It's not yes/no on these points, it is 1-10.
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Two great options. I applied to two schools. Had I applied to a third, Yale might have been that program. Their brand is outstanding, but I feel like its strength has more to do with "Yale" than with "SOM." I seem to recall Yale SOM having a big PE/VC conference every year and as MBADAWG pointed out, proximity to NYC and being in CT are definite advantages. You should check out the video on the exchange Yale runs. You can find it on the SOM's website (the slickest website of any top b-school). Yale SOM is also where Jeffrey Garten teaches, so maybe you'd get invited to dinner at Ina Garten's house in the Hamptons.

Unlike many top b-schools, Duke allows you to earn a concentration in Finance and earn a Certificate of Excellence in Finance. I'm not sure how much any of that will help you in recruiting, but it does help you differentiate yourself from other MBA grads. From what I understand, Duke also has outstanding Finance profs., a student-run investment fund, an active Finance Club, solid placement in finance and a research center dedicated to finance. I believe the largest group of U.S. based alumni live in NY too.

The thing to keep in mind is that PE/VC jobs are extremely rare for folks coming straight out of b-school and Hedge Funds have been hit very, very hard by the economic downturn. That means your experience and being able to leverage the alumni network of your program will be crucial. I would imagine the two programs have comparable networks, but I'm not sure of that either.

As far as quality of life goes, I think Duke would win that hands down. Durham probably beats New Haven on affordability, weather and recreational activities (lots of parks, you're close to the mountains and the beach, lots of basketball, great restaurants, etc.). The Research Triangle has somewhere around 1 million people in it, but Durham still feels like a small city.

My impression is that Durham is a very entrepreneurial place. The Triangle has a large concentration of tech and bio-tech companies. Fuqua has programs (i.e. P4E) that allow you to earn credits while working on start-up ventures. You can either try to start your own company or Fuqua will work to pair you with others to build a company. The school also places current students in start-ups within the Triangle or in some cases, with local VC firms.

If size matters to you, Duke is about twice as large as Yale SOM and has a lot of executive/part-time programs. From what i can tell, this doesn't detract from Fuqua experience, but I deliberately avoided applying to other programs that were larger in size.

I think you'd probably be fine at either school, so it really comes down to where you'd be most comfortable. I'd go to both school's admitted students weekend and see where you're most comfortable. If you have to submit a deposit to Duke and then decide you'd rather go to Yale, you'll only be out $1,500.00. That really isn't much money in the scheme of things.

Good luck.
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Pick Yale!

Disclaimer: I am a R1 waitlister at Duke! :)

On a more serious note, I don't think you could go wrong with either, for your goals.
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I would have a hard time turning down Yale, but I'm a sucker for the brand. That being said in a "blind taste test", I think Duke would probably win. Better alumni network, better placement in all the traditional areas, etc. You really need to meet the people at both schools. That's what will decide it for you.

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