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hi michmax. so, Ross it is huh??
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I'm sending back the card to turn down Duke today, it's kind of sad after putting so much effort into getting accepted, but I hope that opens a spot for one of you...good luck!
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Out of curiosity, what made you choose Ross over Duke? I have applied to both schools and I'm still undecided about where I'm going...

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hi michmax. so, Ross it is huh??
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Still waiting on decisions from a few more schools, but between the two I felt I just fit better with Ross (got a really good vibe when I visited), think I will like living there more (and maybe can get by w/out a car!), getting really excited for the Mtrek trip and realized I would have to quit my job a full month earlier to go to Duke, also came to the conclusion that the career opportunities are basically the same. Not to mention that I would have to send Duke's deposit before getting to attend BDW and before even getting a decision from Kellogg, which has always been my first choice, although I am pretty pumped about Ross now :)

I admit some of these reasons are kinda superficial, but following in line with the discussion above, I believe any of the schools I applied to will get me where I want to be, so might as well pick the one I think I will enjoy the most
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hi michmax. so, Ross it is huh??

Still waiting on decisions from a few more schools, but between the two I felt I just fit better with Ross (got a really good vibe when I visited), think I will like living there more (and maybe can get by w/out a car!), getting really excited for the Mtrek trip and realized I would have to quit my job a full month earlier to go to Duke, also came to the conclusion that the career opportunities are basically the same. Not to mention that I would have to send Duke's deposit before getting to attend BDW and before even getting a decision from Kellogg, which has always been my first choice, although I am pretty pumped about Ross now :)

I admit some of these reasons are kinda superficial, but following in line with the discussion above, I believe any of the schools I applied to will get me where I want to be, so might as well pick the one I think I will enjoy the most
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hi michmax. so, Ross it is huh??

Still waiting on decisions from a few more schools, but between the two I felt I just fit better with Ross (got a really good vibe when I visited), think I will like living there more (and maybe can get by w/out a car!), getting really excited for the Mtrek trip and realized I would have to quit my job a full month earlier to go to Duke, also came to the conclusion that the career opportunities are basically the same. Not to mention that I would have to send Duke's deposit before getting to attend BDW and before even getting a decision from Kellogg, which has always been my first choice, although I am pretty pumped about Ross now :)

I admit some of these reasons are kinda superficial, but following in line with the discussion above, I believe any of the schools I applied to will get me where I want to be, so might as well pick the one I think I will enjoy the most
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I've heard some folks pick schools because "XYZ school has hotter chicks", so compared to those, you're reasons are completely valid.

sidenote: In all fairness, I completely endorse Hot Chicks as the deciding factor for many other pursuits.
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hi michmax. so, Ross it is huh??

Still waiting on decisions from a few more schools, but between the two I felt I just fit better with Ross (got a really good vibe when I visited), think I will like living there more (and maybe can get by w/out a car!), getting really excited for the Mtrek trip and realized I would have to quit my job a full month earlier to go to Duke, also came to the conclusion that the career opportunities are basically the same. Not to mention that I would have to send Duke's deposit before getting to attend BDW and before even getting a decision from Kellogg, which has always been my first choice, although I am pretty pumped about Ross now :)

I admit some of these reasons are kinda superficial, but following in line with the discussion above, I believe any of the schools I applied to will get me where I want to be, so might as well pick the one I think I will enjoy the most

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Also considering I'm going for CPG companies, it was hard to turn down Duke's reputation for marketing in this area, but I felt Ross has good connections in this industry too and is closer in proximity to many of them in the Midwest so I saw being only 1-2 hours flight time away as a slight advantage for second interviews, visiting the company etc.
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hi michmax. so, Ross it is huh??

Still waiting on decisions from a few more schools, but between the two I felt I just fit better with Ross (got a really good vibe when I visited), think I will like living there more (and maybe can get by w/out a car!), getting really excited for the Mtrek trip and realized I would have to quit my job a full month earlier to go to Duke, also came to the conclusion that the career opportunities are basically the same. Not to mention that I would have to send Duke's deposit before getting to attend BDW and before even getting a decision from Kellogg, which has always been my first choice, although I am pretty pumped about Ross now :)

I admit some of these reasons are kinda superficial, but following in line with the discussion above, I believe any of the schools I applied to will get me where I want to be, so might as well pick the one I think I will enjoy the most

I've heard some folks pick schools because "XYZ school has hotter chicks", so compared to those, you're reasons are completely valid.

sidenote: In all fairness, I completely endorse Hot Chicks as the deciding factor for many other pursuits.
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lol, well that has no bearing on me. Although as a hot chick, maybe I should find out which schools these are so I can avoid the guys coming there for that reason :wink:
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I've heard some folks pick schools because "XYZ school has hotter chicks", so compared to those, you're reasons are completely valid.

sidenote: In all fairness, I completely endorse Hot Chicks as the deciding factor for many other pursuits.
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Then I guess UCLA would rank #1 in this category of all competitive B-schools...based on the strength of it's undergrads.
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I've heard some folks pick schools because "XYZ school has hotter chicks", so compared to those, you're reasons are completely valid.

sidenote: In all fairness, I completely endorse Hot Chicks as the deciding factor for many other pursuits.
Then I guess UCLA would rank #1 in this category of all competitive B-schools...based on the strength of it's undergrads.
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If you are from California, none of the UC's except Santa Barbara have an attractive student body. Even Santa Barbara pales compared to state schools like SDSU or ASU.
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So US News rankings are released next Tuesday. It'll be interesting to see where Fuqua ends up. Ultimately, it won't matter that much and I believe their methodology is flawed, but I'll still be watching to find out. One thing we know is that Fuqua won't be ranked in the top 11. What will be interesting is to see where Fuqua is ranked vs. Ross and Darden.

Ultimately, I think we can all agree that Businessweek has the best rankings anyway.
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So US News rankings are released next Tuesday. It'll be interesting to see where Fuqua ends up. Ultimately, it won't matter that much and I believe their methodology is flawed, but I'll still be watching to find out. One thing we know is that Fuqua won't be ranked in the top 11. What will be interesting is to see where Fuqua is ranked vs. Ross and Darden.

Ultimately, I think we can all agree that Businessweek has the best rankings anyway.
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Surely the "3 amigos" (Ross, Duke, Darden) will come in positions 12-14...again, for the 8th time in the past decade! (how Yale slips ahead of those 3 every year is beyond me!)
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i hope Ross makes it to the top 10..!! tht would be wonderful news.!! ;)
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For your statistical satisfaction, here is a little spreadsheet I whipped up. It includes all T15 school's rankings over the past decade in the 3 major rankings - USN, BW, FT. - One thing to note is that in FT rankings I omitted all non-US schools so that rankings would be on level playing field.

Turns out that in the long haul both Duke and Ross are doing quite well- both legitimate "top 10 schools" through and through.

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For your statistical satisfaction, here is a little spreadsheet I whipped up. It includes all T15 school's rankings over the past decade in the 3 major rankings - USN, BW, FT. - One thing to note is that in FT rankings I omitted all non-US schools so that rankings would be on level playing field.

Turns out that in the long haul both Duke and Ross are doing quite well- both legitimate "top 10 schools" through and through.

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This is great!
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So US News rankings are released next Tuesday. It'll be interesting to see where Fuqua ends up. Ultimately, it won't matter that much and I believe their methodology is flawed, but I'll still be watching to find out. One thing we know is that Fuqua won't be ranked in the top 11. What will be interesting is to see where Fuqua is ranked vs. Ross and Darden.

Ultimately, I think we can all agree that Businessweek has the best rankings anyway.
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https://poetsandquants.com/2010/06/28/tu ... -rankings/

Not sure if you've seen this "ranking of the rankings"...but it's a pretty good read.
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Someone on the forum once said "rankings matter very little once you are in business school." I think it's pretty true. Once you are in business school, the thing that matters the most is recruiting. And companies won't change their recruiting policies just because fluctuations in rankings. One thing companies appear to look for in selecting core schools is cultural fit of the school and company, as well as the performance of past alums at the company. I know Fuqua has made the core school list for several companies this year (and losing one).

When you guys choose schools this year, I would recommend to chose based on fit and industry/function recruitment rather than on relative ranking.
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Someone on the forum once said "rankings matter very little once you are in business school." I think it's pretty true. Once you are in business school, the thing that matters the most is recruiting. And companies won't change their recruiting policies just because fluctuations in rankings. One thing companies appear to look for in selecting core schools is cultural fit of the school and company, as well as the performance of past alums at the company. I know Fuqua has made the core school list for several companies this year (and losing one).

When you guys choose schools this year, I would recommend to chose based on fit and industry/function recruitment rather than on relative ranking.
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So well said, asimov. I couldn't agree more. In particular, I would point out two schools that I completely reevaluated as I went from reading rankings to more real world research: Fuqua and Haas. Both of these places hover near the bottom of the top ten in most rankings, but sometimes they really get ranked below some truly inferior programs.

Why does this happen? I can point to some great poetsandquants.com stuff that explains the methodology problems in all of the rankings, but who really cares? What you should do instead is get to know some of the students and alumni. Then talk to some hiring managers in your sector and your region. And then, if you still want, start to dig into the details of the numbers, instead of some crude roll-ups put out by magazines.

When I did these things, I realized that my perception of these two schools as decent but unexceptional regional programs was plain wrong. Haas is mathematically the second hardest school in the country to get into (after Stanford), and Fuqua's recruiting performance, particularly in healthcare is stunning. Moreover, their students, present and past, are impressive, mature, and successful people. When I met people at and from these schools, I never walked away thinking, "Oh, he must have gotten dinged at Yale SOM." Actually sitting down and talking with the people at these schools (as well as the people who hire them when they graduate) will really open your eyes if you've been spending too much time looking at the rankings. I know it did for me.
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Friends, I'm rather new to b-school lingo. Could someone pls enlighten me on what 'M/B/B' stands for? I guess M stands for McKinsey. Pls correct me, if I am wrong. Have no idea what B/B stands for.
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Friends, I'm rather new to b-school lingo. Could someone pls enlighten me on what 'M/B/B' stands for? I guess M stands for McKinsey. Pls correct me, if I am wrong. Have no idea what B/B stands for.
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These are the Big 3 consulting firms, as they are referred to often.
M - McKinsey
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For your statistical satisfaction, here is a little spreadsheet I whipped up. It includes all T15 school's rankings over the past decade in the 3 major rankings - USN, BW, FT. - One thing to note is that in FT rankings I omitted all non-US schools so that rankings would be on level playing field.

Turns out that in the long haul both Duke and Ross are doing quite well- both legitimate "top 10 schools" through and through.

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great post..!! although i kinda love poets and quant's ranking of all rankings..!! makes the most sense to me so far...!!
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