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This question was posted a few months back but no response. Does Yale have any preferences on formatting (single or double spaced)? Also, I have a couple of my short responses split into 2 paragraphs... I'm guessing I should follow directions and smash them together. There are differing opinions on the forum. Anyone want to weigh in on this?

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I have the same doubts, one of my short ans is 2 paragraphs. Should I make it one?

Also is it OK if I take TOEFL later on? I have a score form 5 years back,so I guess its not valid. Will Yale waive TOEFL for me?

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AFAIK, Yale doensn't specify a formatting preference. I think, like with most things, it's a matter of being reasonable. Personally, I used 12 pt TNR with 1.5 spacing.

As for the short answer questions, I ended up splitting one into two paragraphs. But I got waitlisted, so take that fwiw.

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I agree with brainhurt for formatting - reasonable - popularly accepted readable font and size and 1.5 or 2 for spacing. I looked for the way it looks on paper - you know no hanging phrase or sentence on the following page.

As far as paragraph it is totally ok to have more paragraphs if it makes sense - One big block of text compiling three different thoughts is, i think, much worse than literally following the instructions. One of my short answers had 4 paragraphs and apparently was ok.

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Cool, thanks for the info! Still having a tough time deciding though...

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I want to know my chances of getting into Yale SOM. I really love the school and it is my number one choice. I am applying to R2. and almost done with my applications. my GMAT is 640(V34,Q45) (retaking it on 5th Jan, but worse case, it doesnt improve,i will have to apply with 640 score) I currently work for non-profit and have 3 years experience in IT. With a compelling essay and very good reco's what are my chances to get in? I have decent GPA form Indian school.

Oh, forgot to mention I am 25 year old Indian,female. I am worried about getting a ding coz of low GMAT score. I am also reporting my GRE score, which I took exactly 5 years back, but have awesome Quant score.

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The people on this board aren't going to be able to give you that answer. Better to focus on your application at this point. You'll have plenty of time to wonder once you hit submit, but no more time to refine your essays, etc.

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Thanks for the answer. But i was looking for any points to highlight in my essays ets. Also if anyone with a similar profile had been admitted/dinged.

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Awesome, thanks! That's exactly what I needed to hear

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And now submitted! Phew... now to get to finishing other apps!

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Ok, sorry for the board spamming, another (dumb) question. When I submitted the app it said they don't have my gmat score report.. makes sense as I didn't select Yale as one of the 5 schools to send it to when I took the test 6 months ago.

Is there no way around me shelling out $28 to get the score report sent to Yale? I guess they need it before they make a decision right?

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No other way.

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Hi all,

A couple of things:

1. Transcripts. I have two to track down (undergrad and Masters) and am having trouble getting hold of one, while the other lists only my end-of-year grades with no specifics for modules within that. What's my best strategy here? (Apart from chasing up the admin staff at my universities, which so far has been fruitless but I will keep trying) Should I self-report my grades pending a formal transcript? Should I go into detail that may never be verified by the university by listing grades from modules that I have been told, but that will never be listed on a transcript as they simply don't do that as an institution?

2. Essays. On my essay about my biggest achievement, and why I'm proud of it, I've been very tempted to draft an answer with two parts, as it feels more authentic and more indicative of my potential and strengths. It's about a single period of my life, but it's effectively two different things, the second of which is not a professional achievement, but rather a personal situation that I feel I handled well. Obviously there are two potential problems with this. Firstly, I'm discussing what really are two different things, even though they are connected, and the question asked for one. Secondly, the second thing is not really an achievement per se, not in the strict quantifiable sense. However, there are also positives to doing it this way - it feels like a more compelling story, and in saying why I'm prouder of one that the other I think it reveals some positive things about me in an unusual way (which is why I went for this approach in the first place). Any thoughts on this most welcome.

3. Just out of curiosity... am I being paranoid by changing to a new username so that I can ask stupid questions without worrying? Would someone from admissions ever look on here? It really wouldn't have been hard to pinpoint my application from my username, location and GMAT!

Anyway, good luck everyone!

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1. My guess is optional essay to explain the situation. If you have not called already I would do that first, it will give you their preference. If someone else applies from either of those programs though, they will wonder why you couldn't get things together and someone else did. Not a strong position.
2. You want to answer the question you wished they asked vs. the one they actually asked. A familiar situation to be sure, but I think the adcom (Bruce D. I think) has mentioned this as a problem to avoid in numerous interviews/tip sessions. You have to give the most compelling answer for the question, not in the abstract.
3. If they were looking on these boards, they most likely wouldn't answer and reveal themselves. All other responses are speculation.

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3. Just out of curiosity... am I being paranoid by changing to a new username so that I can ask stupid questions without worrying? Would someone from admissions ever look on here? It really wouldn't have been hard to pinpoint my application from my username, location and GMAT!
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Agree completely with estreet.

The one thing I would add is CBS adcom has specifically mentioned that they read bschool forums. Now that doesn't mean they're reading this one, and just because CBS does it doesn't mean YSOM does. However, I keep this in the back of my head whenever I post something, which isn't such a bad thing. I don't think asking "stupid" questions would hurt you (I think it shows that you care about the process, and I don't think your questions are stupid anyway). I think representing oneself as unethical or something like that would be unwise. My $0.02.

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Thanks for your thoughts. On point 2, I definitely had that interview with Bruce Del Monico going through my mind as I wrote the 2-part response, and was trying to decide whether what I was doing fell into the trap that he mentioned. With that in mind I'm erring towards going back and re-doing it because as you say it's important to answer in the spirit it was asked. I think I'll draft an alternative and see how the two compare when they're fully written and edited. Will be sad to let that one slide though, as I think it's more interesting and more honest.

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That's interesting and also more or less what I thought too. To be honest, if I was an adcom I'm pretty sure I'd browse these forums. Not necessarily out of any Sherlock Holmes-type desire to catch people out, but at least to see what prospective students are thinking and going through when their guard is down, or at least partially down. At that point, if adcoms are browsing the forums already, it becomes an interesting question practically and ethically whether they would or should take what they read into account in evaluating individuals' applications.

Anyway, as estreet said - speculation!

p.s. am curious since your location is Toronto - any particular reason you're not going for Rotman or any of the other local schools? I visited Rotman and was actually very impressed by the facilities and faculty and am pretty sure that the Canadian schools lose a fair few spots in certain rankings due to post-MBA salary being generally lower, not always due to any failure on the school's part. The main sticking point for me was that the student body seemed a lot more mixed in ability than at the top-20 US schools I visited, which is a big factor for me. Recruitment is an obvious factor too but for various reasons I don't think that would be as much of an issue as people might suggest if you were able to maximize the resources that are there.

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Just hit submit for R2. Good luck to everyone.

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Same here, I would probably poke around here if I was an adcom. I'm still stuck on the ethics of using information gleaned from a forum (or FB or whatever) in evaluating an application... I can see the argument both ways.

Wrt Rotman, I should probably amend my profile because I do have an application in progress, but for me it's more of a backup school. I'm a big fan of the program and like the facilities very much, but I'm looking to work in the US in investment management after graduating, and while Rotman is well regarded, it's nowhere near a top 15 school from the perspective of people in NYC in IM (at least the ones I talked to). Given that I want to work in NYC, my goal is a top US school, but if I intended to stay in Toronto I'd definitely be going to Rotman.

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I know for a fact that Yale SOM checks some of these boards. 1. I saw someone while at SOM 2. I happened to recognize the username of someone in admissions and this person was actively on the "recent" user list.