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Congrats to all who were accepted! I can still remember the excitement. Enjoy! You are going to work very hard but you are going to have so much fun!!!! If you decide to come of course.

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hey guys, anyone got in with a 105 toefl?????

I got my toefl scores today, I got just 105!! two years ago i got 112, i dont know what happened this year.
I have a 750 GMAt and my English has never been a problem. I really wanna apply to HBS the second round, any advice?
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Hi everyone,

First of all, congrats to all the R1 admits! I hope to join you in R2.

I had a question about the last essay for HBS (Answer a question you wished we'd asked). I have a great story that really adds a unique perspective to my application, but it is very similar to a question asked on another b-school's application. Would this be frowned upon, since adcom may interpret it as "taking the easy way out", or would it be welcomed since it does add to my overall candidacy?
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[quote="hbsguru"][/quote]

Sandy,

I got a low toefl score, 105 (two years ago i got 112).

Any advice on how to handle this with HBS? Do you think dealing with a low toefl score is like dealing with a low GPA, "doable"? or is it an automatic ding for me????

I dont have time to retake it, i didnt think that toefl would be an issue for me, my english is really good and I really think that if they interview me they could easily notice that the 22 in speaking doesnt reflect my real english level. I got a 750 in the GMAT (41 V, 50 Q). I got a strong application in my opinion, and i really really dont wanna wait another year ( i am currently 27), however, if i dont give HBS a good shot I will always wonder whether I could have made it at HBS.

I graduated first of my class at Uni, became manager at a big 4 with 2 years of experience (advisory, actuarial services), 5 languages including arabic, currently living in Latam (received the nationality in here) and I am originally from Bethlehem where i graduated from High School (yes, Bethlehem as in the xmas carols).

Any advice, do you think my chances are really low now, or maybe they might give me a shot and check my english level at an interview??

thanks a lot
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A little late, but in as well! So excited!!
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I made a thread for waitlisted candidates --> hbs-2012-waitlist-124875.html

I know we won't hear anything until about March, but I figured having a thread like this would make it easier to detect the moment in which this thing actually moves.
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Congrats to all who got in.

Frankly, I'll consider it a victory if I can finally wrestle the application to the ground and choke it to death before the Round 2 deadline. Anything after that is bacon gravy.

I am curious though... of the round 1 applicants, who had the most unusual "answer a question you wish we'd asked" essay?
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A little late, but in as well! So excited!!

Awesome lala10. Congrats ! Very happy for you.
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I am in too!

This community has been a wonderful help. A BIG thanks to everyone, and all the best to the other applicants!
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anyone know when they are calling us? havent heard anything yet
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Thanks Shek!

Solb - I received a call yesterday afternoon from my adcom interviewer.

And, for anyone who is interested, I posted my interview questions to the ClearAdmit Wiki.
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Got a call from my interviewer yesterday too. She first sent an email of congrats and followed-up with a phone call.
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I'm in as well - just an email, no phone call. I realize I've been mostly a lurker on these forums for the past few months, but thanks to everyone - you really helped me get through it all!
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I assume you know the below from the HBS website which says they kinda like a 109 or better on TOEFL --if the rest of your app is strong, they will overlook it and make an independent view at interview. But, you should
1. address this issue in Part 1 of App, where they give you 500 characters to explain anything--make sure you note prior score of 112, I mean the test is a bit subjective.
2. Have recommenders note how good your English is, and in what contexts you speak it.
3. Make sure app is super literate, in terms of usage etc. Does not need to be formal, but it does need to read like your English is fluent and correct at once. That will help-- and it is good advice for everyone anyway.
4. you can get a bit cute, if you want to use Q4 answer : I WISH YOU HAD ASKED ME HOW GOOD MY ENGLISH IS--and instead of bragging, just highlight emotionally fraught or complex work situations full of nuance, where you able to work in English, and duh, quote a bit of what you said. The idea here would be actually to highlight some interesting situations, e.g. broke up w. girlfriend in English, resolved billing dispute w. client in English, can curse very well in English and many other languages, etc. They will get the idea.
This is not a dealbreaker if rest of app is strong. Esp. given prior score.

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•The MBA Admissions Board discourages any candidate with a TOEFL score lower than 109 on the IBT, an IELTS score lower than 7.5, or a PTE score lower than 75 from applying.

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Sandy,

I got a low toefl score, 105 (two years ago i got 112).

Any advice on how to handle this with HBS? Do you think dealing with a low toefl score is like dealing with a low GPA, "doable"? or is it an automatic ding for me????

I dont have time to retake it, i didnt think that toefl would be an issue for me, my english is really good and I really think that if they interview me they could easily notice that the 22 in speaking doesnt reflect my real english level. I got a 750 in the GMAT (41 V, 50 Q). I got a strong application in my opinion, and i really really dont wanna wait another year ( i am currently 27), however, if i dont give HBS a good shot I will always wonder whether I could have made it at HBS.

I graduated first of my class at Uni, became manager at a big 4 with 2 years of experience (advisory, actuarial services), 5 languages including arabic, currently living in Latam (received the nationality in here) and I am originally from Bethlehem where i graduated from High School (yes, Bethlehem as in the xmas carols).

Any advice, do you think my chances are really low now, or maybe they might give me a shot and check my english level at an interview??

thanks a lot
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I assume you know the below from the HBS website which says they kinda like a 109 or better on TOEFL --if the rest of your app is strong, they will overlook it and make an independent view at interview. But, you should
1. address this issue in Part 1 of App, where they give you 500 characters to explain anything--make sure you note prior score of 112, I mean the test is a bit subjective.
2. Have recommenders note how good your English is, and in what contexts you speak it.
3. Make sure app is super literate, in terms of usage etc. Does not need to be formal, but it does need to read like your English is fluent and correct at once. That will help-- and it is good advice for everyone anyway.
4. you can get a bit cute, if you want to use Q4 answer : I WISH YOU HAD ASKED ME HOW GOOD MY ENGLISH IS--and instead of bragging, just highlight emotionally fraught or complex work situations full of nuance, where you able to work in English, and duh, quote a bit of what you said. The idea here would be actually to highlight some interesting situations, e.g. broke up w. girlfriend in English, resolved billing dispute w. client in English, can curse very well in English and many other languages, etc. They will get the idea.
This is not a dealbreaker if rest of app is strong. Esp. given prior score.

Quote:
•The MBA Admissions Board discourages any candidate with a TOEFL score lower than 109 on the IBT, an IELTS score lower than 7.5, or a PTE score lower than 75 from applying.

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Sandy,

I got a low toefl score, 105 (two years ago i got 112).

Any advice on how to handle this with HBS? Do you think dealing with a low toefl score is like dealing with a low GPA, "doable"? or is it an automatic ding for me????

I dont have time to retake it, i didnt think that toefl would be an issue for me, my english is really good and I really think that if they interview me they could easily notice that the 22 in speaking doesnt reflect my real english level. I got a 750 in the GMAT (41 V, 50 Q). I got a strong application in my opinion, and i really really dont wanna wait another year ( i am currently 27), however, if i dont give HBS a good shot I will always wonder whether I could have made it at HBS.

I graduated first of my class at Uni, became manager at a big 4 with 2 years of experience (advisory, actuarial services), 5 languages including arabic, currently living in Latam (received the nationality in here) and I am originally from Bethlehem where i graduated from High School (yes, Bethlehem as in the xmas carols).

Any advice, do you think my chances are really low now, or maybe they might give me a shot and check my english level at an interview??

thanks a lot

Sandi, thanks a lot for your reply, you really made my day, I was really depressed for a moment.

One recommender will say that I spoke really well publicly in english at an international seminar. Another will say that I dealt in english with MDs from Investment Banks in New York and London at my first job which was 100% in English.
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I STILL HAVENT GOTTEN A PHONE CALL! WTF
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I STILL HAVENT GOTTEN A PHONE CALL! WTF

Neither have I. I'm sure we'll hear soon, and if not, we have the contact info for our admissions liaison.
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