GMATclubbers in the class of 2010: Tally = 14 RiverRipper https://gmatclub.com/forum/p381183#p381183 mba2010 https://gmatclub.com/forum/p381825#p381825 faceman https://gmatclub.com/forum/p386304#p386304 ApolloLuna https://gmatclub.com/forum/p416484#p416484 CfaMiami steel https://gmatclub.com/forum/p421433#p421433 MGOBLUE2 SkiC https://gmatclub.com/forum/p432651#p432651 futuredukemba ghgirl https://gmatclub.com/forum/p438384#p438384 nervousgmat https://gmatclub.com/forum/p382350#p382350 bee186 jenjen lebcar Kellogg R1: 29 applicants Tally: Admits: 11 Dings: 13 Waitlist: 5 GMATclubbers in the class of 2010: 10 RiverRipper: ACCEPTED and Matriculating mba2010: ACCEPTED and Matriculating faceman: ACCEPTED and Matriculating ApolloLuna: ACCEPTED and Matriculating CfaMiami: ACCEPTED and Matriculating steel: ACCEPTED and Matriculating MGOBLUE2: ACCEPTED and Matriculating nervousgmat: ACCEPTED and Matriculating jenjen: ACCEPTED and Matriculating lebcar: ACCEPTED and Matriculating BCC145: ACCEPTED Withdrawn for Wharton forcefeed: Waitlisted Dinged burger2001: Waitlisted g.matter: Waitlisted Irishfan: Waitlisted JJGooden: Waitlisted KingKreep: Dinged grad_mba: Dinged toDoorNot: Dinged shmegs: Dinged Vij101: Dinged svrider: Dinged tsaditya: Dinged R.E.D.: Dinged murali83: Dinged red_s4: Dinged duuuma: Dinged tauslu: Dinged 1Y ut710: Dinged MMM ============================================ Kellogg R2: 34 applicants Tally: Admits: 9 Dings: 17 Waitlist: 4 unknown: 3 GMATclubbers in the class of 2010: 4 SkiC: ACCEPTED and Matriculating futuredukemba: ACCEPTED and Matriculating ghgirl: ACCEPTED and Matriculating bee186: ACCEPTED and Matriculating TJ: ACCEPTED Withdrawn for Sloan businessdocn08: ACCEPTED Withdrawn for Columbia ujjib: ACCEPTED Withdrawn for GSB kryzak: ACCEPTED Withdrew for Haas terry12: ACCEPTED Withdrew for Stanford mst: Waitlisted zmfatla: Waitlisted bewakoof: Waitlisted livehard: Waitlisted branson: Dinged pandeyrav: Dinged westcoastMBA: Dinged ryguy904: Dinged sperinko: Dinged nupurgupt: Dinged echelon: Dinged bkk145: Dinged malumier: Dinged majosan: Dinged JDMBA: Dinged trojan812: Dinged dosa_don: Dinged kalia2480: Dinged togafoot: Dinged Octane: Dinged CerealsMBA: Dinged Angel652001: Dinged aceman626: ??? gmat2gmat: ??? mantymooney: ???

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Octane if you get the error message saying to contact the office that usually indicates a ding or WL...sorry.

ding it is

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I don't even think its as simple as Finance vs. Marketing for you...My friends at the GSB tell me that landing finance gigs (internships) for international students this year has been very tough. I imagine that its the same way at all the schools.

During the welcome weekend, talk to current students and ask them about their internship hunts. I think that is a very important issue with the current economic conditions.

As for your personality, I think Steel is 100% correct. These schools are good in everything. Go to the school where you have a greater comfort. As cheesy as this sounds, when its between K and GSB, you will never regret picking one school over the other based on ranking or reputation because its essentially a tie. But there is a definite culture difference. Let that serve as your guide.

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Octane if you get the error message saying to contact the office that usually indicates a ding or WL...sorry.

Bewakoof and livehard, best of luck with the WL, keep at it but dont become annoying any you will stand a chance. Dont let forcefeed's ding from the WL discourage you, luck at his avatar and think of how much work he probably put in trying to get off the Kellogg WL. :lol:

ujjib, I think you have a tough choice to make and a few things to think about when you make your decision.

First of all post grad goals, are you hoping to go into banking on wall st. or management or marketing at a fortune 500 company. Both will help you on your way whatever you goals are but honestly each has their known strenghts, GSB=Finance while Kellogg=Marketing and Management. MC they are very similar with the slightest of edge to Kellogg but not enough to really affect your decision.

While I agree with a lot of what Steel says about skills, I do think that your school has an image that even if you dont fit it you will carry with you. What will be more of a benefit to your future career, hardcore quant abilities or the soft skills companies complain many students lack. Are you going into a very analytical career and feel that GSBs quant rep will be more of a benefit or are you going into an area where your people skills will be very important. Obviously you wont be completely stigmatized with either image and you wont only learn quant at GSB and soft skills at Kellogg but each school bolsters those respective images. For me as an engineer, I felt that the Kellogg rep would balance out my geeky sounding background. I mean my resume could be filled with all sorts of hardcore quant based analytics if I wrote it that way but no matter how I write it now, its still screams engineer...rounding out my profile was what really made me prefer Kellogg but I love GSB too(or I wouldnt have applied) and you definitely cant go wrong if you end up there.

Culturally, both schools are filled with great people. I think Kellogg has the advantage with significant others access to the school. GSB will have a more urban life if you do what many students do and live downtown instead of in Hyde Park. The vast majority (90+%) of Kellogg students live in Evanston. That said, at Kellogg you probably will have a bunch of classmates living in the same apartment/condo building and will have a 10 minute walk to campus, where as that wont be the case for most GSB students.

It really will come down to personal feelings. Hopefully you can make both admitted students, talking to a few people that have chosen between Kellogg and other top schools the admit weekends really are what cements peoples decisions. If you go to DAK you will probably drink the coolaid like the rest of us 8-)

No matter what its nice to know you will be in the Chicago area this fall.

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Kellogg R2: 33 applicants
Tally: Admits: 9 Dings: 13 Waitlist: 4 unknown: 7
futuredukemba: ACCEPTED
ghgirl: ACCEPTED
TJ: ACCEPTED
kryzak: ACCEPTED
terry12: ACCEPTED
bee186: ACCEPTED
businessdocn08: ACCEPTED
ujjib: ACCEPTED
SkiC: ACCEPTED JD/MBA
mst: Waitlisted
zmfatla: Waitlisted
bewakoof: Waitlisted
livehard: Waitlisted
branson: Dinged
pandeyrav: Dinged
westcoastMBA: Dinged
ryguy904: Dinged
sperinko: Dinged
nupurgupt: Dinged
echelon: Dinged
bkk145: Dinged
majosan: Dinged
dosa_don: Dinged
kalia2480: Dinged
togafoot: Dinged
Octane: Dinged
trojan812: Submitted; Interviewed
CerealsMBA: Submitted
aceman626: Submitted
gmat2gmat: Submitted
JDMBA: Submitted (JD):
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congrats to those admitted, commiserations to dings and Good luck to waitlisted people.

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congrats to the accepted! And good luck to the W/L and dings (with other schools).

ujjib, i think river and steel already hit all the points I want to hit, but similar to river, with two engineering degrees and a 7 year WE at an engineering company, I will always choose a school known for its "soft" skills over an analytical one (which is one of the reasons I didn't apply to MIT or GSB). Soft skills, IMHO, are hard to learn for an analytical person, so being immersed in that environment will help you learn from mistakes and make you a much more well-rounded leader.

BTW, fill out the DAK Roll Call and I'll see you in a few weekends!

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to echo what the others say about soft skills... It is a difficult skill to learn. Quant skills are quite linear (although open to different interpretations and manipulations), however soft skills require agility. Interacting with one person to get a result doesn't necessarily work with a second person. Learning the repetoire requires you to understand the working culture, the individual culture and the individual cultural background. On top of that, they have different communication styles. The 6 common dichotomies (from Dr. David Matsumoto 2007)are :-

Independent ------Interdependent
Egalitarianism------Status
Risk---------------Restraint
Direct-------------Indirect
Task--------------Relationship
Short-Term--------Long-Term

How each person fits inside these dichotomies should influence how you communciate with them. This isn't even including their motivational personality, depending on whether they are people, knowledge or results biaised (or a combination thereof).

I've been on too many internal training courses at work :lol:

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Ding it is for me. Congrats to the admits, K is definitely a great school, and will probably will be as highly regarded in the future as the Chicago GSB... just kidding...

So I will be driving south instead of north on Northshore next year, and I am really excited that so many of us are gonna end up in Chicago.

Now, how can I change my nickname ???

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Thus, this is why the comparative strengths of any program in the top 6 (or so) can only get you so far. The programs are so strong across the board - that these comparative programmatic strengths often end in a wash - there's a reason you applied to the top schools you did, because you believed you would get a fantastic education in the areas you want to at any of them.

Thanks Steel. I see your point on the top schools being strong across the board. I agree, I will have numerous opportunities to work on my soft skills at GSB or utilize my analytical ability at kellogg. The people and culture are certainly different at the two chicago schools..having worked in companies with very different cultures, i know how important this factor could have on job/school satisfaction..I am thinking Chicago based on the culture/people factor, but the admit weekends will give me the best picture..

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ujjib, I think you have a tough choice to make and a few things to think about when you make your decision.

river, thanks!!! no tough choice here..i actually get that (cliched) feeling that i cannot go wrong on this one. i am leaning towards chicago, but if Kellogg would even give me $5K, I would totally shift my loyalities.. :lol:

As you point out, my post MBA goals will be a major factor in my decision. THe problem is I am not really sure about my goals. In my essays I have written about exploring entrepreneurship opportunities in India, and even though my idea is decent, I do not think I will be ready for it immediately after MBA. I am not even sure about a broad field yet..These are some of things I am considering -

Consulting (very slight edge to kellogg)
GM/Strategy Groups (slight edge to kellogg)
IM (certainly chicago)
Non profit (both)

mgoblue2

My friends at the GSB tell me that landing finance gigs (internships) for international students this year has been very tough. I imagine that its the same way at all the schools.

mgoblue, i haven't heard about the hardships in getting financial internships..infact the adcom chats and some current students were pretty positive on recruitment season inspite of the subprime meltdown. IB is a no-no for me, but I do want to know more about the status on internship recruitment this year..thanks for the advice. recruitment and academics are going to be my top questions to current students..one thing i did hear is that Big3 consulting internships are very very difficult to get at every school..

kryzak

BTW, fill out the DAK Roll Call and I'll see you in a few weekends!

Thanks Kry. I will certainly see in you in a couple of weeks. I got two engg. degrees too, but I moved out after working 1yr in R&D. It was all about the culture at work..

Academics is also a factor for me. During my school visits, I have been thru so many classes that made me wonder if I really want to spend $100K tuition for these classes. I think I will get the best in-classroom experience at chicago and that certainly means quite a bit to me..

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So I will be driving south instead of north on Northshore next year, and I am really excited that so many of us are gonna end up in Chicago.

You mean Lakeshore? :-D

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So I glanced at Nervous' new picture and it made me think - what kinds of perks do you think we're going to get being at Kellogg during the Centennial year? Looks like most of the events are geared towards Alumni, but I have to think students will get in on the action too.

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Just got my admit package today! Yayyy! Super excited.. Now I already got my Kellogg e-mail address, and can join the Facebook group lol!

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I wonder if they'll tell us at DAK II to try to entice us to go. :wink:

darn, Kellogg offers so many more "perk" type things... I know I shouldn't base my decisions on that though, but it's hard.

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Since its so popular with CPGs you score tons of stuff from people doing presentation. But I think that having a lot of events bringing alumni in is an advantage since you get that many more chances to interact with alums.

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I have to say - I liked my free Laffy Taffy and free Sam Adams at DAK I (though bad in combination).

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A 2nd year was joking that he had a couple dozen nalgene bottles...I think it was a hobby of collecting them. I am sure that stuff is probably pretty common at a lot of schools though.

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mailed in my financial aid application... maybe I'll get some more $$?

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So I will be driving south instead of north on Northshore next year, and I am really excited that so many of us are gonna end up in Chicago.

You mean Lakeshore? :-D

Uh... yeah... damn, I'll never stop calling it this way (actually, Northshore is where my wife's parents live...)

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To nervous and futuredukemba (and anyone else who is deciding between Fuqua and Kellogg) there is a group mailing list specifically for people deciding between Fuqua and Kellogg that was started through the Fuqua yahoo group that you might want to get on (or you might already be on it). There are quite a few people in our boat and the initial comments/opinions of group members seem quite insightful and intelligent. Just another resource to help in the decision making....also, did BDW swing your decision either way?

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Alright, so I just took a look at our stats for Kellogg this year. Very impressive...
Still cant find decisions for:
aceman626: ???
gmat2gmat: ???
mantymooney: ???

GMATclubbers in the Kellogg class for 2010:
RiverRipper
mba2010
faceman
ApolloLuna
CfaMiami
steel
MGOBLUE2

**nervousgmat has paid her deposit but still says she hasnt made a decision. as if its that tough, she only has 17 different schools to choose between :roll:

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Total for this year to this point (not sure what R3 will bring)
60 applicants with an acceptance rate of 33.3%
Tally: Admits: 20 Dings: 30 Waitlist: 7 unknown: 3

R1:[/size] 27 applicants with acceptance rate of 40.7%
Tally: Admits: 11 Dings: 13 Waitlist: 3

R2: 33 applicants with acceptance rate of 27.3%
Tally: Admits: 9 Dings: 17 Waitlist: 4 unknown: 3
futuredukemba: ACCEPTED
ghgirl: ACCEPTED
TJ: ACCEPTED
kryzak: ACCEPTED
terry12: ACCEPTED
bee186: ACCEPTED
businessdocn08: ACCEPTED
ujjib: ACCEPTED
SkiC: ACCEPTED JD/MBA
mst: Waitlisted
zmfatla: Waitlisted
bewakoof: Waitlisted
livehard: Waitlisted
branson: Dinged
pandeyrav: Dinged
westcoastMBA: Dinged
ryguy904: Dinged
sperinko: Dinged
nupurgupt: Dinged
echelon: Dinged
bkk145: Dinged
malumier: Dinged
majosan: Dinged
JDMBA: Dinged
trojan812: Dinged
dosa_don: Dinged
kalia2480: Dinged
togafoot: Dinged
Octane: Dinged
CerealsMBA: Dinged

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I posted this in nervous' debate thread but there was actually a few valuable posts on the kellogg thread on BW, specifically with the Duke vs Kellogg debate. Probably some of the same people on your mailing list.

https://forums.businessweek.com/n/pfx/forum.aspx?tsn=1450&nav=messages&webtag=bw-bschools&tid=73673