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I think I explained it on chat last night but this is how the online system seems to work. Note this may not be 100% accurate but I know someone who actually asked adcoms about this this fall and they know it hapens. However, remember if you dont read this or BW obsessively you probably wouldnt know what the little technicality is.

Alright so you start with normal status but to change it they have to take you out of the system to update your status to whatever it is. Now they can't email you that your dinged until they have the status changed online. So if you sit there all day and press F5 there is a very good chance you will catch it when your status gets taken down so they can update it.

However, why do people get calls before they see that unknown message? Well think about it, the adcoms know this happens, they know you know it happens. So do they want to cause lots of anxiety to the people who are getting admitted? Nope, so they call them and then will update their status after the call.

Occasionally admits get the status change online, but thats probably because the timing of the people making the calls gets slowed down but whoever is doing the updates does all of them.

If you are an international with a very different timezone there is a high likelihood you will get the status update online since they arent going to want to call you at 2am your time.
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River... If the subject comes up, please tell them to call me at all hours! I'm up!:)
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Great post by a "Hopco" at the BW forum - goes along well with River's last post -

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I’ve been quietly watching the forum over the past few days while waiting to find out my fate and the question of how/when applicants are reviewed still keeps coming up. So I thought I might add my own opinion in order to attempt to clarify (but most likely spur more discussion). I attended both an on and off campus info session and the adcom made several statements about the process. I have no reason to believe they weren’t being mostly forthright.



Adcom statements:
-Applications will only be reviewed when they are complete AND the deadline has passed
-An application is considered complete when Part I and II have been submitted AND when the interviewer has submitted the interview forms
-Completed applications are added to the pool of other completed applications and are reviewed in a RANDOM order
-Applicants are notified [practically] immediately once a decision has been finalized


My own interpretations/assumptions:

-Applicants whose interview assessment is completed prior to or early after the deadline for the round have a HIGHER PROBABILITY of hearing back EARLY because the pool of completed applications is small early on and therefore has a higher chance of being randomly selected
-Applicants whose interview assessment is completed well after the deadline for the round have a LOWER PROBABILITY of hearing back EARLY because the pool of completed applications is larger later on and therefore has a lower chance of being randomly selected
-(This is where it gets frustrating to those that interviewed early) Since there’s no “history” built into the system, for two applicants with completed apps, they have EQUAL chances of being reviewed at that current moment in time (even if one applicant interviewed just the day before while the other interviewed in September). This means that it is possible for a small number of people to have interviewed early, but not get randomly picked until very late
- On campus interviewers are more likely to be responsible and submit their end of the assessment quickly than are alumni interviewers
-Few international applicants have heard a decision because they tend to interview late and with alumni
-Finally, I suspect that technically everybody gets the dreaded “unknown” status as their state is being updated in the database. The only difference is that the accepted applicants get a call before system is officially updated and they stop incessantly checking the status page while the dinged candidate stumbles upon the much feared message during their frequent checking.

Sorry for the dissertation. Debate away.
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Seems like info some people here would be interested in.
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According to someone who called the adcom today from the BW forum, today is the Kellogg adcome office holiday party, so I would think we won't hear much more today.
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According to someone who called the adcom today from the BW forum, today is the Kellogg adcome office holiday party, so I would think we won't hear much more today.
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The are lucky they still have a holiday party...

My company just cancelled ours.
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Yeah but for Kellogg admissions "sales" are up 20%. Not many companies can say that this year.
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I just got the call. I am in :)

I had applied to the MMM program. Good luck guys.
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What time did you get the call, I am surprised they were making calls late in the day today.

Congrats and since he didnt post it...Paradosso informed us on chat he got the admit email today.
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I just got the call. I am in :)

I had applied to the MMM program. Good luck guys.
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Can you please post your profile in the profiles section when you get a chance?
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I got the call 25 minutes back. I was just as surprised. I stopped hitting F5 and browsing this forum an hour back and figured the agonizing wait would continue into next week.
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I just got the call. I am in :)

I had applied to the MMM program. Good luck guys.

Can you please post your profile in the profiles section when you get a chance?
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getting nervous...
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I have updated my profile
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Hey,

river preceded me in updating the tally with my admit.

I am an international applicant and got the admit to the MMM program. I was asked my TOEFL transcript yesterday (no status change though), so I guess they prepared the first batch of admits to MMM yesterday and released them today.

I got an e-mail with the adcom explicitly saying she was just e-mailing due to the different time zones and that I am welcome to call them when I can.

Most credit for this admit goes to this community, I would like to publicly thank River, Steel, Mgoblue for their wonderful rendering the Kellogg experience to us.

I wish good luck to everyone still waiting, both MMM (sonibubu comes to mind,vij I am going to look for you come DAK if I can make it there!) and regular MBA.

It's great sharing with y'all.
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congrats paradosso!!!
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congrats Paradosso! Very happy for you!
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Darn it! Got dinged here... Kellogg was definitelly my top choice. But at the same time, I knew my apps for Kellogg was the weakest among all others. If i don't get into Booth next week, I will be screwed! I should probably start working on R2 apps.
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Darn it! Got dinged here... Kellogg was definitelly my top choice. But at the same time, I knew my apps for Kellogg was the weakest among all others. If i don't get into Booth next week, I will be screwed! I should probably start working on R2 apps.
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Sorry to hear that Krispy, best of luck with Booth.
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Congrats Paradosso! Very happy for you!!

Krispy, hang in there, best of luck on the rest of your apps!
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Congrats Paradosso!
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Congrats!!!
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I got in MMM yesterday but didn't find out till today!!! Got home from work last night at about 6:15 and my cell phone battery was dead. After reading that the admissions office was having their holiday party yesterday, I just went ahead and turned off my phone. After sleeping in and a late breakfast, I was in the car running an errand and finally turned my phone on and it beeped at me telling me there was a new message. Sure enough, it was the message I had been waiting for. Had to pull off to the side of the road to collect myself. Anyway here's my profile.

28/M/690 GMAT/3.6 GPA from service academy. 5 1/2 years Army, 1 year defense consulting.

Am really glad I got in cause this was the only M7 I applied to.

Good luck to all.
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