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Exceeding by more than 10% is probably not a good idea. I would try to keep it within 10%. Althought for myself, I have generally kept almost all my essays within the word limit.
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Exceeding by more than 10% is probably not a good idea. I would try to keep it within 10%. Althought for myself, I have generally kept almost all my essays within the word limit.


I've stayed within 5% though I've heard up to 10% is alright.
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Can someone shed a light on the word limit ? How strict is Kellogg with this ? Would 10% more words hurt my application ?


I asked the admissions office about this, and here's what they wrote back:

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Hello,

A few words over the limit will be okay.

Sincerely,
Kellogg Admissions


So yeah, a little over (I personally define that as <25 words) should be fine. But 60 over for a 600 word essay would be pushing it.
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I did third person. Just submitted my application through the interwebs. Interview is completed, application completed. All that's left is for them to let me know the result!
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I did third person. Just submitted my application through the interwebs. Interview is completed, application completed. All that's left is for them to let me know the result!


Do you mind sharing your interview experience? I am hoping to set mine up for sometime next week.
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I posted it a couple pages back, should be around early - mid December timeframe.

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I did third person. Just submitted my application through the interwebs. Interview is completed, application completed. All that's left is for them to let me know the result!


Do you mind sharing your interview experience? I am hoping to set mine up for sometime next week.
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On the same boat of 3rd person on #3 --- debating whether to switch it to first ... also what about introducing new content / material in #3? How do you do it?
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On the same boat of 3rd person on #3 --- debating whether to switch it to first ... also what about introducing new content / material in #3? How do you do it?


I wouldn't worry about the first/third person thing, especially this late in the game. Seems like it's a pretty even split here, and as long as you get the message across and write it well I don't think it matters.
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shr30 wrote:
On the same boat of 3rd person on #3 --- debating whether to switch it to first ... also what about introducing new content / material in #3? How do you do it?


I wouldn't worry about the first/third person thing, especially this late in the game. Seems like it's a pretty even split here, and as long as you get the message across and write it well I don't think it matters.


Agreed.

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On the same boat of 3rd person on #3 --- debating whether to switch it to first ... also what about introducing new content / material in #3? How do you do it?


I did not introduce any new content in this essay but I used to address a couple weaknesses especially my undergrad GPA.
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shr30 wrote:
On the same boat of 3rd person on #3 --- debating whether to switch it to first ... also what about introducing new content / material in #3? How do you do it?


I did not introduce any new content in this essay but I used to address a couple weaknesses especially my undergrad GPA.


I'm surprised people aren't using essay #3 to introduce new content. I used it to talk about a bunch of smaller things I am involved in.

Involvement in undergrad alumni club indicates Frankenstein will likely be a lifelong asset to the Kellogg community....

Such-and-such community service involvement shows that he will likely be a leader in X program at Kellogg....

This award he won shows that he is not only a good test-taker, but also an active participant in the classroom who contributes the learning of others....


I can't really imagine writing this essay without new content. I think it would be a really boring summary of everything else in the application without getting into detail: I have clear career goals and have really good leadership experience as I have just described...
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There shouldn't be new content in Essay #3, but that means no new content outside of the entire application, not just what is in your other essays. In other words, Frankenstein's undergrad alumni club involvement should be listed in the forms somewhere or on his resume, but essay #3 highlights the involvement and elaborates on what it says about him as a candidate.
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There shouldn't be new content in Essay #3, but that means no new content outside of the entire application, not just what is in your other essays. In other words, Frankenstein's undergrad alumni club involvement should be listed in the forms somewhere or on his resume, but essay #3 highlights the involvement and elaborates on what it says about him as a candidate.


Makes sense. I talked about things that were just barely touched on elsewhere.
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bseb wrote:
shr30 wrote:
On the same boat of 3rd person on #3 --- debating whether to switch it to first ... also what about introducing new content / material in #3? How do you do it?


I did not introduce any new content in this essay but I used to address a couple weaknesses especially my undergrad GPA.


I'm surprised people aren't using essay #3 to introduce new content. I used it to talk about a bunch of smaller things I am involved in.

Involvement in undergrad alumni club indicates Frankenstein will likely be a lifelong asset to the Kellogg community....

Such-and-such community service involvement shows that he will likely be a leader in X program at Kellogg....

This award he won shows that he is not only a good test-taker, but also an active participant in the classroom who contributes the learning of others....


I can't really imagine writing this essay without new content. I think it would be a really boring summary of everything else in the application without getting into detail: I have clear career goals and have really good leadership experience as I have just described...




I used #3 to introduce 3 new vivid stories of community, leadership, and passion for travel. I tied each one to why I "fit" the Kellogg community. The way I did this is add the preface: "... he describes in our interview ..." "we learned from his interview..." etc. (Two of these three activities are listed on my EC forms, and the last one is listed briefly on my resume... i just took the liberty here in this essay to elaborate those things).

I also finally decided to use 3rd person.

I'm almost done w/ all my essays now... one more proofread + consider some editorial remarks, then I'm good to go.
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On the same boat of 3rd person on #3 --- debating whether to switch it to first ... also what about introducing new content / material in #3? How do you do it?


I did not introduce any new content in this essay but I used to address a couple weaknesses especially my undergrad GPA.


I'm surprised people aren't using essay #3 to introduce new content. I used it to talk about a bunch of smaller things I am involved in.

Involvement in undergrad alumni club indicates Frankenstein will likely be a lifelong asset to the Kellogg community....

Such-and-such community service involvement shows that he will likely be a leader in X program at Kellogg....

This award he won shows that he is not only a good test-taker, but also an active participant in the classroom who contributes the learning of others....


I can't really imagine writing this essay without new content. I think it would be a really boring summary of everything else in the application without getting into detail: I have clear career goals and have really good leadership experience as I have just described...


Okay well I guess I introduced a little bit of new content then too ;)
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Don't feel constrained against introducing new content in that essay. Remember, you only get so many words to convey all of who you are, your hopes, dreams, etc. Spending an entire essay covering material the adcom can learn elsewhere in the app is not making full use of the space.

Of course, expanding on activities listed in the data form is a great approach, but if there's a great story that does a lot to explain who you are, don't leave it out because it's not told elsewhere in the app.
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