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Hi everyone, 4-year Army officer vet here. I just got back from Iraq a few months ago and hadn't taken the GMAT yet, so I had some prep to do before I could start applying. I'm applying R2 to all my schools. I'm applying to A&M (Mays), Darden, WashU (Olin), and Wisconsin. Is anyone else applying to any of these schools? Right now I'm at the point where it is dawning on me how many essays I have left to write in less than a month. Brutal.


Think about getting some consulting help. It's worth it, especially with your compressed timeline. The essays are a brutal pain and take a ton of effort to do well. I used Veritas Prep, but there are lots of options. Good luck.

I just joined up here, and applied to Harvard, Ross (Michigan), McCombs (Texas), and Mendoza (Notre Dame) in round one and it nearly killed me.
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lakai777 - Thanks for the great information and willingness to help. It's personally motivating to see a fellow enlisted Devil Dog make it to a top school. Best of luck at Darden and in all your future endeavors.
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Lakai777 - Thanks for your insight. Good stuff.
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any MIT guys hear anything today? I am hoping for that one big time..
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Hey everyone. I got a call from the McCombs admissions office today, and I'm admitted for next fall.

My profile:
Age: 30 yrs old
Sex: Male
Ethnicity: Chinese-American
Work Experience: 8 yrs Navy. nuclear submarines, humanitarian ops, special ops
GPA: 2.82, US Naval Academy
GMAT1: 710 (V42/Q45 AWA 6.0)
GMAT2: 710 (V41/Q47 AWA 6.0)

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great job, can you guys stop beating us in football haha

at least we are all in a bowl game this year, which is pretty cool,

great job, way to represent the service academies!

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Thanks, brother. It stung to see our guys lose to Air Force this year. Get ready for Saturday!

And good luck! I hope you all get what you want!
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thanks alot man, i know we still are not that good but maybe we have a chance, i just want to see a good game, i know it must be awesome to be navy right now, but it would be good for both academies to have a tight exciting game

i made some great friends at navy and afa, hopefully we get credit for everything we sacrificed (i.e. college life). looks like you already made it happen, good luck down there
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thanks alot man, i know we still are not that good but maybe we have a chance, i just want to see a good game, i know it must be awesome to be navy right now, but it would be good for both academies to have a tight exciting game

i made some great friends at navy and afa, hopefully we get credit for everything we sacrificed (i.e. college life). looks like you already made it happen, good luck down there



Army/Navy is always a good game, in my opinion. I was at school at the end of the Weatherbie era, where we won 9 games in four seasons! It sucked to march-on week after week and watch our team get annihilated...


Anyone on this board have info or personal experiences regarding the post 9/11 GI Bill? The online application seems simple enough.
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Anyone on this board have info or personal experiences regarding the post 9/11 GI Bill? The online application seems simple enough.

No personal experience with the Post 9/11 GI Bill. It's been a while, but for undergrad (and a different type of GI Bill), I just presented the VA benefits office at my school with a NOBE (DD2384-1) and they took care of the rest. This was before everything was online though. Please share if you find out anything unique about applying for Post 9/11 -- I qualify for benefits (along with everyone on this thread I'm sure) and wasn't aware I needed to do anything outside of the VA office for whichever school I'd be attending.

On a different note, if anyone's applying to NYU -- I got an email this morning from the Veterans club out there. I imagine a lot of folks received the same thing, but in case you didn't...

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Greetings from the Stern Military Veterans Club!

We certainly know what it’s like to make the transition from the military to business school. We have been in your position and we are here to try and help with the application process.

As a prospective student, you have the opportunity to send admissions essay #1 to a current Military Veterans Club (MVC) member before you submit your application to the Admissions Committee. We will read through the essay and provide constructive feedback on clarity and content.


If you are no longer applying to Stern or have already applied, please disregard.

If you are still planning to apply to Stern and would like to take advantage of this, please send your essay #1 (see below) by next Friday to mvc@stern.nyu.edu. We will accept essays until Friday, December 17th.

A member of the MVC will review the essay and provide feedback to you NLT 23 December. Please write ‘MVC Helping Hands’ and your last name in the subject of the e-mail.

NYU Stern Essay #1 (750 word maximum)
Professional Aspirations
Think about the decisions you have made in your life. Please answer the following:
a. What choices have you made that led you to your current position?
b. Why pursue an MBA at this point in your life?
c. What is your career goal upon graduation from NYU Stern? What is your long-term career goal?


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Anyone on this board have info or personal experiences regarding the post 9/11 GI Bill? The online application seems simple enough.


Talk to the Armed Forces Alumni Association at Texas. They'll be able to help you out. I can't post a link yet, but they helped me quite a bit.
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Thanks. I just shot them an email with some GI-Bill specific questions.

Additionally, here's a standard blurb that I got from the Haas Veterans' club a while back when I reached out to them. It may be helpful to people on this board. If anyone here is considering Berkeley, give them a shout. Super friendly guys and very helpful. Here it is:

Military-to-MBA: B-School Application Advice from the Haas Veterans Club

Application Process

Start early. As far as I can tell, in the top U.S. MBA programs
Veterans are put in their own applicant pool, with a rough number of
spots set aside for Veterans. You may be more qualified that the
other person that had your job in the military, but if that person has
already been accepted this year, you may be out of luck. As you start
looking at schools, reach out to the Veterans Clubs, which should be
able to give you insight into their school and help you tailor your
application.

Your Narrative

This is the single most important part of your business school
application. As you write your essays, you will need to come up with
compelling reasons/answers for why an MBA, why this business school,
why now, what you bring to the table, and how this school will help
you reach your career goals. This takes time and should be tailored
to individual schools. This is easier with three or four stories that
relate your transferrable skills and that your grandmother would
understand. In writing these stories, you have to assume that the
person reading you application has no understanding of what the
military does, what your job was, and what you actually accomplished.
Develop your personal “value proposition” – i.e. what makes your
military leadership experience unique and focus on highlighting
aspects of your background that are “business school relevant.” All
the while, be conscious of the commonly held stereotypes of
military-style leadership (i.e. hierarchical, authoritative, etc).

As far as a career path goes, they need to know that you have put some
thought into it. If asked in an interview, you need to be convincing.
The admissions committee will be looking at your application through
the eyes of potential employers – “Is this applicant someone we will
be able to place?” That said you are not tied to that path once you
are accepted. A lot of your classmates will use their MBA degrees to
make a career transition. With a military background, consulting,
operations, and general management roles seem to be the most common
options, but there are many others to consider as well.

I was a pilot, which means that I might have an advantage in the
aerospace/defense industry. I do not have to go there when I am done
with my degree, but it is an option. In some ways, it is a
potentially safer path to follow in the event that nothing else works
out. It is up to you to craft that path and an MBA can make it
easier. But ask around. Arguably half of an MBA is what takes place
outside of the classroom. You may be able to get the job that you
want without getting an MBA and you would want to know that before
investing two years of your life. For example, if I wanted to be an
airline pilot, then an MBA wouldn’t do me a lot of good.

GMAT

As far as the GMAT goes, you will want a score that you don't have to
talk about and won't make anyone question your ability to handle the
MBA curriculum. Generally, I'd say anything above 700 is fine. I
used the following books, plus a Princeton Review guide, which focused
a bit more on strategies/techniques.

The Official Guide for GMAT Review, 12th Edition
The Official Guide for GMAT Quantitative Review, 2nd Edition
The Official Guide for GMAT Verbal Review, 2nd Edition

The exam adapts its difficulty as you test, so you will want to focus
on the earlier problems a lot more. I'd also recommend the sample
tests at gmat.com and princetonreview.com. Another good resource is
https://gmatclub.com/.

Financial Aid

The Post-9/11 GI Bill provides U.S. Veterans with financial assistance
for tuition, fees, books, and housing based on a level of
qualification for each Veteran (i.e. 100%, 80%, etc). For complete
information see the official Post-911 GI Bill website
(https://www.gibill.va.gov/) as well as this helpful site from the Iraq
and Afghanistan Veterans of America (IAVA)
(https://www.newgibill.org/).

The tuition and fee rates are based on the highest in-state tuition
and fees for a public school. You basically get a flat rate plus a
per unit rate. (Note: The following rates are based on a 100%
qualification for benefits and should be adjusted for other
qualification levels accordingly.) In California, this translates to
$2165 per semester for fees and $335 per credit hour for tuition. At
a typical Haas courseload of 13 credit hours per semester, the tuition
portion amounts to roughly $9,000 per year. You will also get $1000
per year for books and $1930 per month in BAH (E-5 with dependents).
Keep in mind that you may be able to transfer your benefits over to a
dependent, so you may want to check that out before using the benefits
yourself.

The Yellow Ribbon Program is voluntary and done by schools/programs
that cost more than the highest in-state tuition and fees for a public
school. To be eligible for the program, a Veteran must be a 100%
recipient of Post-9/11 GI Bill benefits. The institution will set an
additional amount that they will contribute and the VA will match it.
Veterans Clubs or the financial aid office at schools should be able
to give you the information that you need on this. Haas was unable to
formally participate in the program this year due to a timing issue,
but still offered $10,000 in support to each Yellow Ribbon eligible
student. Haas is planning to participate next year, but I am not sure
at what financial level (applications are not currently being accepted
by the VA).

Carefully consider the date that you leave active duty. If you are on
terminal leave when classes start, you may not yet be eligible for
your educational benefits. On the other side, extending your service
for a couple of months to be eligible for a higher level of benefits
may make sense. If the government already paid for your education
once, then you have to perform a minimum commitment before the clock
starts counting for Post 9/11 GI Bill benefits. For example, service
academy folks owe 5 years, ROTC folks owe 4 years. So for a ROTC grad
who served a total 6 years, only 2 of those years count toward the
Post-9/11 GI Bill benefits.

To activate your GI Bill benefits at Haas, you’ll need to get an
application form signed by the Haas MBA Program Office (i.e. Amy
Hornstein et al) and deliver 1) that form, 2) VA eligibility letter,
and 3) DD214 to Michael Cooper at the UC Berkeley Registrar. There’s
no incentive to do this in advance (I also tried such things), since
the money doesn’t flow until Michael reports our enrollment status,
credits, etc to the VA at the beginning of each semester.

International Applicants

Haas attracts approximately 30% international applicants, including a
significant number of students with some level of military experience
(particularly those from South Korea, Israel, Singapore, and the UK).
International applicants should review their country or service
specific entitlements (such as Enhanced Learning Credits in the UK)
which may be used to assist in funding an MBA. The club has members
from the British, South Korean and Israeli armed services who can be
contacted via the website for specific advice.

General application advice (as covered earlier) is consistent whether
for US or international applicants. However, bear in mind that you
are applying to a US school and so the importance of ‘translating’
your military skills and experience to a relevant and easily –
understood narrative is even more important. This is particularly true
if you come from a very specialized background and/or from a non –
English speaking country where certain military terms may not be
universally understood.

Final Points

Lastly, the rank of the school and the characteristics of the alumni
network do matter. But you will want to pick a school that is right
for you in terms of focus, strengths, location, teaching, culture, and
size (to name a few). For example, if you’re interested in technology
or entrepreneurship, the Bay Area is a great place to be. I can drive
down the road to any number of companies and network much easier than
I could at a lot of other schools.

We look forward to working with you as you get to know Haas. Feel
free to reach out to us with any questions or concerns at
vets@lists.haas.berkeley.edu.
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feel free to reach out to any of us for advice. we might not be as proactive as the stern dudes, but we'll be just as helpful. and if you guys need a place to stay during a visit to c-ville, let one of us know. we hosts dudes all the time.

https://www.darden.virginia.edu/web/MBA/ ... s-of-2012/

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awesome man, ryan fisher was the EOD Team Leader that supported my platoon in Iraq, great guy
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lakai777, sounds like you're doing great at Darden!

Good luck to everyone who's hearing back from Round 1 and stay motivated for the later rounds. If you get good news and want advice on getting ready for school, feel free to ask any questions here for the current students.
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any advice on the sloan interview, me and 2 other vets got invited today
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Hey guys/gals. AF guy here. Got into HBS today. Rejected from Wharton, Kellogg, and I expect Booth (haven't heard anything positive back from them yet, so I'm assuming a rejection). Don't know yet about Tuck.

It only takes one to say yes. The wife and I are drinking the bubbly tonight.
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