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21 Jun 2014, 20:07
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I need help understanding like/as comparisons. I have a specific question.
Take the following example (#1), which comes from p. 259 of the amazing Manhattan GMAT Sentence Correction (SC) book:
(1) "As in the previous case, the judge took an early break."
(2) "Like the previous case, the judge took an early break."
I find #1 tricky since you could just as easily decide to re-write the sentence as #2. After all, "the previous case" is a noun and nouns or noun phrases follow the word "like".
I'm having a real tough time figuring out why #1 is right, and not #2. Or are they both right? Or is one of them right?
Would be amazing if someone could help me here -- especially if that someone is from MGMAT so that the reasoning is most consistent with what I've been reading in their books.
Take the following example (#1), which comes from p. 259 of the amazing Manhattan GMAT Sentence Correction (SC) book:
(1) "As in the previous case, the judge took an early break."
(2) "Like the previous case, the judge took an early break."
I find #1 tricky since you could just as easily decide to re-write the sentence as #2. After all, "the previous case" is a noun and nouns or noun phrases follow the word "like".
I'm having a real tough time figuring out why #1 is right, and not #2. Or are they both right? Or is one of them right?
Would be amazing if someone could help me here -- especially if that someone is from MGMAT so that the reasoning is most consistent with what I've been reading in their books.
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21 Jun 2014, 20:24
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Hi all,
How do you distinguish between using "like" in a sentence, as opposed to the Preposition "As" (as described in p. 259-260 of MGMAT SC).
The problem I'm having is that both are accompanied by nouns.
e.g. I will jump up LIKE a clown.
e.g. I will jump up AS a clown.
It seems to me like the ONLY way to distinguish between whether to use like/as is through meaning -- if the comparison being made is supposed to translate as "X is similar to Y", then you should use "like." Otherwise, you'll want to use "as", in which case you're using the Preposition "As" and it should take on one of those 3 meanings described in the chapter.
Please let me know if this sounds right, or if there's more that I haven't mentioned (the above is literally everything I know about making that distinction). Feel free to add color - the more, the better.
PS: GO TEAM USA! LET'S WHOOP PORTUGAL!!
How do you distinguish between using "like" in a sentence, as opposed to the Preposition "As" (as described in p. 259-260 of MGMAT SC).
The problem I'm having is that both are accompanied by nouns.
e.g. I will jump up LIKE a clown.
e.g. I will jump up AS a clown.
It seems to me like the ONLY way to distinguish between whether to use like/as is through meaning -- if the comparison being made is supposed to translate as "X is similar to Y", then you should use "like." Otherwise, you'll want to use "as", in which case you're using the Preposition "As" and it should take on one of those 3 meanings described in the chapter.
Please let me know if this sounds right, or if there's more that I haven't mentioned (the above is literally everything I know about making that distinction). Feel free to add color - the more, the better.
PS: GO TEAM USA! LET'S WHOOP PORTUGAL!!
21 Jun 2014, 21:29
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there are two things that you must check in comparison questions:
1- the identities that are compared must be logically parallel.
2- the identities that are compared must be grammatically parallel........ like+ noun (noun phrase)...... as+ clause (prepositional phrase)
ok now lets look at your example
"As in the previous case, the judge took an early break." ---> As+prepositional phrase
when as comes with the prepositional phrase, it shows that we have ellipses. it means some parts of the sentence are omitted.
we can rewrite the sentence as following: as the judge did in the previous case, the judge took an early break.
the identities being compared are what the judge did in the previous case and what he did after that.
now lets look at the second sentence of your example:
"Like the previous case, the judge took an early break."
in this example we have "like+noun" so it is grammatically sound. but wait, is it logically sound either???
what are the identities being compared?? previous case & the judge.
logically we cannot compare a case with a judge. that's where meaning comes into light.
hope it helps.
