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Please address my query:
In option A, why cant we construct the below statement, by use of SAE, substitution and ellipsis:
Dallol, Ethiopia is one of the world's hottest places, with a recorded annual temperature of 94 degrees Fahrenheit, which[annual temperature of 94 degrees Fahrenheit] is higher than [annual temperature]in any other country on earth.

This, to me, makes the comparison correct.
My questions are:
#1 Is the above construction correct ? - if not then how to use SAE, basically ellipses part where optional text can be omitted
#2 can relative pronoun - which/that/who/whom/whose - take up a Noun Phrase or do they take just a Noun word ?
#3 Option: D (correct answer) has this structure:
Dallol, Ethiopia is one of the world's hottest places, with a recorded annual temperature of 94 degrees Fahrenheit, higher than that[annual temperature] of any other country on earth

My questions for this particular choice are:
#3.1: 'with the...Fahhrenheit' this is a modifier - non-essentionl modifier ?
#3.2: how is 'higher than that of any country on earth' attached to this. What type of modifier is this ? As in option A, 'which' makes it a Relative pronoun clause attached at the tail refering to temperature just before the comma. I am not able to understand , how this modifier ('higher than that of ...') attached in choice D
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The two modifiers in questions are nested modifiers, the first modifying the main clause and the second modifying the first modifier. A modifier modifies the the previous clause or the noun in front or another modifier is legal. After all, modifiers true to their name have to modify something.
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Dallol, Ethiopia is one of the world's hottest places, with a recorded annual temperature of 94 degrees Fahrenheit, which is higher than in any other country on earth.

A) which is higher than in

B) which is higher than it is

C) and higher than that of

D) higher than that of

E) higher than in
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Please address my query:
In option A, why cant we construct the below statement, by use of SAE, substitution and ellipsis:
Dallol, Ethiopia is one of the world's hottest places, with a recorded annual temperature of 94 degrees Fahrenheit, which[annual temperature of 94 degrees Fahrenheit] is higher than [annual temperature]in any other country on earth.

This, to me, makes the comparison correct.
My questions are:
#1 Is the above construction correct ? - if not then how to use SAE, basically ellipses part where optional text can be omitted

abhishek893rai , in order to prevent taking this topic thread into a subject whose discussion often mushrooms far from the original question, I will point you to this thread: HERE
Use logic and choose the clearest answer.
What two things are being compared?
The annual temperature in Ethiopia and the annual temperature in every other country in the world. The thread I just linked to discusses how to handle comparisons and ellipsis—and what not to do. I would read Ron Purewal's posts about strategy. I also like this post about how to treat comparisons.

Which option makes that fact about two compared temperatures the clearest?
In option D, the words "that of" make it clear that we are comparing the annual temperature of Ethiopia to the annual temperature in any [every] country on earth.

There will be disagreement about what "which" modifies.
I will amend my OE to account for that disagreement.
Some people will say that "which" in options A and B seems to modify 94 degrees Fahrenheit.
Other people will say that "which" modifies temperature.

EDIT: You may want to look at the official question upon which this question is based. That official question is HERE.

In addition, this official question here has answer choices almost identical to those in this question.
-- higher than that of is the best answer.
-- which is higher than in is not the correct answer.

That thread also contains very sophisticated discussion.

Can you make the argument that (A) is superior to (D)? That (D) contains error?

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#2 can relative pronoun - which/that/who/whom/whose - take up a Noun Phrase or do they take just a Noun word ?
I edited and rearranged my OE. Now discussion of what which can modify is in its own bullet point, near the bottom of the post.

By "take up," do you mean "stand for"? I assume so.
Which can modify either the prepositional object or the main noun in [noun + prepositional phrase].
If which modifies the object of the preposition, often we have an easier time analyzing the comparison.
If which modifies the main noun in a noun phrase, that analysis may be harder.

In this case, as is the case in the official question to which I linked, I suppose we could argue that "which" seems to refer to 94° Fahrenheit, a reference that creates a comparison that is even worse than "temperature."
At the least, we could argue that the reference is not clear and thus (D) is the answer.

I'm not sure that avenue is necessary.
Both linking verbs ("IS") create subject complements that are different (hottest country on earth and higher than [___?] in any other country).
THAT OF creates a copy of temperature that makes the comparison clearer.
And in D, THAT cannot refer to 94° Fahrenheit.
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#3 Option: D (correct answer) has this structure:
Dallol, Ethiopia is one of the world's hottest places, with a recorded annual temperature of 94 degrees Fahrenheit, higher than that[annual temperature] of any other country on earth

My questions for this particular choice are:
#3.1: 'with the...Fahhrenheit' this is a modifier - non-essentionl modifier ?
Does this fact matter? Why?
(I am trying to prevent this thread from heading into territory that would be better covered in GMATNinja 's "Ask me Anything" thread that you can find here
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#3.2: how is 'higher than that of any country on earth' attached to this. What type of modifier is this ? As in option A, 'which' makes it a Relative pronoun clause attached at the tail refering to temperature just before the comma. I am not able to understand , how this modifier ('higher than that of ...') attached in choice D
higher than that of any country on earth is a modifier of temperature.

-- The names don't matter. This refrain is constant in SC: hyper-focus on parts of speech is not the way to do well on SC.
-- Does higher than seem to be anything other than a modifier of temperature?
If higher were an adverb, it would need to modify a verb. There isn't one in the preceding phrase.

The phrase is probably a reduced relative (adjectivial) clause (jargon!!!).
Here's how such clauses work.

This is probably the clause that was probably reduced, though I am just guessing): which is higher than that of any other country on earth.
We can reduce (shorten) clauses to phrases, especially when the clauses contain a relative pronoun and a TO BE verb.
Reduced relative clauses are very common on the GMAT.

To reduce a relative clause to an adjective phrase:
(1) Remove the relative pronoun (WHICH)
(2) Remove the "to be" verb (IS)
(3) Place the adjective after the noun it modifies

Example: I could not stop eating the plump and inviting cherries, which were more luscious than any other fruit I'd eaten in a long time.
(1) remove the relative pronoun (WHICH)
(2) remove the TO BE verb (were)
(3) place the adjective after the noun it modifies

Result, relative clause reduced to adjective phrase modifying "cherries":
I could not stop eating the plump and inviting cherries, more luscious than any other fruit I'd eaten in a long time.

You can get a very quick overview of reduced relative clauses here.

I may be wrong, but this level of questioning typically indicates that you have mastered SC pretty well.
If I am correct that you are doing well, then may I suggest that you shift your focus?

Study official examples only. Make flashcards. Watch for patterns.
For example, GMAC does not like WITH to express causality. At all.
Or notice that many correct answers are written in the allegedly taboo passive voice.

It is very easy to lose sight of the bigger picture.
That picture consists of GMAC-originated questions in which patterns and the best answer (not the perfect answer) rule the day.

If I have not answered your questions, please take your queries to GMATNinja 's Ask Me Anything thread. (I do not want this topic to expand geometrically into an ellipsis and substitution discussion. I think there are better ways to handle comparisons. :) )
Again, that thread is HERE

I hope that helps. :)
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Dallol, Ethiopia is one of the world's hottest places, with a recorded annual temperature of 94 degrees Fahrenheit, which is higher than in any other country on earth.


Antecedents of pronouns, touch rule of relative pronouns and ellipsis.

When we deal with any of the above points, it will be prudent to keep logic and reasoning as the top priority and we must settle for the most precise noun and not lengthy nested modifiers.
1. Dallol, Ethiopia is one of the world's hottest places, with a recorded annual temperature of 94 degrees Fahrenheit, which is higher than in any other country on earth.

A) which is higher than in

B) which is higher than it is

A) What is 'which' referring to seems to be an eternal debate because we think that it can modify both the short 'annual temperature' and the longer 'annual temperature of 94 degrees Fahrenheit'. Structurally or technically, there is no harm in thinking like that. However, logically we are inclined to prefer the shorter version . After all, the 94 degrees F., is yet another prepositional modifier of the annual temperature. Therefore, one need not be apologetic about discarding it.

Let us also see it from another angle. Let us replace the 'which' with what it sensibly intends to modify.

A. 1. Annual temperature is higher than in any other country.

A.2. Annual temperature of 94 degrees F is higher than in any other country.

You can now see that 94 degrees is higher in Dallol than 94 degrees in any other country. How stupid!

Therefore let us rest assured that 'which' does refer to the annual temperature. In addition, A is faulty because the wrong preposition 'in'.

Now let us come to the pronoun 'it'. The thumb rule is that the prerogative of a pronoun is to refer to the subject first. This leads to an absurd context that Dallol is higher than any other country. Even the reference of annual temperature is irrelevant because we are comparing a temperature with any other country. The pronoun is neither an expletive here since expletives are mostly used for starting a sentence and in the middle of a sentence. it is always used to refer to either a subject or an object

Let us now delve into D.

D) Higher than that of

'That' here replaces the annual temp., as we saw in the case of 'which' and together with the correct preposition 'of' , is perfectly idiomatic. That is the reason D is the correct choice.
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can someone explain why option A is wrong.
IN MY OPINION, WHICH CORRECTLY REFERS TO 94 DEG FAHRENHITE AND USE OF PREPOSITION 'IN', CORRECTLY COMPARES TEMP OF X TO TEMP OF OTHER COUNTRIES.
i AM NOT SATISFIED WITH ALL EXPLANATIONS. EXPERTS PLEASE HELP.
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Dallol, Ethiopia is one of the world's hottest places, with a recorded annual temperature of 94 degrees Fahrenheit, which is higher than in any other country on earth.

A) which is higher than in

B) which is higher than it is

C) and higher than that of

D) higher than that of

E) higher than in
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Please address my query:
In option A, why cant we construct the below statement, by use of SAE, substitution and ellipsis:
Dallol, Ethiopia is one of the world's hottest places, with a recorded annual temperature of 94 degrees Fahrenheit, which[annual temperature of 94 degrees Fahrenheit] is higher than [annual temperature]in any other country on earth.

This, to me, makes the comparison correct.
My questions are:
#1 Is the above construction correct ? - if not then how to use SAE, basically ellipses part where optional text can be omitted

abhishek893rai , in order to prevent taking this topic thread into a subject whose discussion often mushrooms far from the original question, I will point you to this thread: HERE
Use logic and choose the clearest answer.
What two things are being compared?
The annual temperature in Ethiopia and the annual temperature in every other country in the world. The thread I just linked to discusses how to handle comparisons and ellipsis—and what not to do. I would read Ron Purewal's posts about strategy. I also like this post about how to treat comparisons.

Which option makes that fact about two compared temperatures the clearest?
In option D, the words "that of" make it clear that we are comparing the annual temperature of Ethiopia to the annual temperature in any [every] country on earth.

There will be disagreement about what "which" modifies.
I will amend my OE to account for that disagreement.
Some people will say that "which" in options A and B seems to modify 94 degrees Fahrenheit.
Other people will say that "which" modifies temperature.

EDIT: You may want to look at the official question upon which this question is based. That official question is HERE.

In addition, this official question here has answer choices almost identical to those in this question.
-- higher than that of is the best answer.
-- which is higher than in is not the correct answer.

That thread also contains very sophisticated discussion.

Can you make the argument that (A) is superior to (D)? That (D) contains error?

Quote:
#2 can relative pronoun - which/that/who/whom/whose - take up a Noun Phrase or do they take just a Noun word ?
I edited and rearranged my OE. Now discussion of what which can modify is in its own bullet point, near the bottom of the post.

By "take up," do you mean "stand for"? I assume so.
Which can modify either the prepositional object or the main noun in [noun + prepositional phrase].
If which modifies the object of the preposition, often we have an easier time analyzing the comparison.
If which modifies the main noun in a noun phrase, that analysis may be harder.

In this case, as is the case in the official question to which I linked, I suppose we could argue that "which" seems to refer to 94° Fahrenheit, a reference that creates a comparison that is even worse than "temperature."
At the least, we could argue that the reference is not clear and thus (D) is the answer.

I'm not sure that avenue is necessary.
Both linking verbs ("IS") create subject complements that are different (hottest country on earth and higher than [___?] in any other country).
THAT OF creates a copy of temperature that makes the comparison clearer.
And in D, THAT cannot refer to 94° Fahrenheit.
Quote:
#3 Option: D (correct answer) has this structure:
Dallol, Ethiopia is one of the world's hottest places, with a recorded annual temperature of 94 degrees Fahrenheit, higher than that[annual temperature] of any other country on earth

My questions for this particular choice are:
#3.1: 'with the...Fahhrenheit' this is a modifier - non-essentionl modifier ?
Does this fact matter? Why?
(I am trying to prevent this thread from heading into territory that would be better covered in GMATNinja 's "Ask me Anything" thread that you can find here
Quote:
#3.2: how is 'higher than that of any country on earth' attached to this. What type of modifier is this ? As in option A, 'which' makes it a Relative pronoun clause attached at the tail refering to temperature just before the comma. I am not able to understand , how this modifier ('higher than that of ...') attached in choice D
higher than that of any country on earth is a modifier of temperature.

-- The names don't matter. This refrain is constant in SC: hyper-focus on parts of speech is not the way to do well on SC.
-- Does higher than seem to be anything other than a modifier of temperature?
If higher were an adverb, it would need to modify a verb. There isn't one in the preceding phrase.

The phrase is probably a reduced relative (adjectivial) clause (jargon!!!).
Here's how such clauses work.

This is probably the clause that was probably reduced, though I am just guessing): which is higher than that of any other country on earth.
We can reduce (shorten) clauses to phrases, especially when the clauses contain a relative pronoun and a TO BE verb.
Reduced relative clauses are very common on the GMAT.

To reduce a relative clause to an adjective phrase:
(1) Remove the relative pronoun (WHICH)
(2) Remove the "to be" verb (IS)
(3) Place the adjective after the noun it modifies

Example: I could not stop eating the plump and inviting cherries, which were more luscious than any other fruit I'd eaten in a long time.
(1) remove the relative pronoun (WHICH)
(2) remove the TO BE verb (were)
(3) place the adjective after the noun it modifies

Result, relative clause reduced to adjective phrase modifying "cherries":
I could not stop eating the plump and inviting cherries, more luscious than any other fruit I'd eaten in a long time.

You can get a very quick overview of reduced relative clauses here.

I may be wrong, but this level of questioning typically indicates that you have mastered SC pretty well.
If I am correct that you are doing well, then may I suggest that you shift your focus?

Study official examples only. Make flashcards. Watch for patterns.
For example, GMAC does not like WITH to express causality. At all.
Or notice that many correct answers are written in the allegedly taboo passive voice.

It is very easy to lose sight of the bigger picture.
That picture consists of GMAC-originated questions in which patterns and the best answer (not the perfect answer) rule the day.

If I have not answered your questions, please take your queries to GMATNinja 's Ask Me Anything thread. (I do not want this topic to expand geometrically into an ellipsis and substitution discussion. I think there are better ways to handle comparisons. :) )
Again, that thread is HERE

I hope that helps. :)
I checked out all of those 3-4 official questions that you linked above and in them the usage of "that of" is correct. You can't possibly refer to a State's/Country's GDP using "in" but for temperature, the usage of "in" is appropriate. The "that of" usage in Option D makes the sentence needlessly wordy in my opinion.
I think the answer choice in this question should be A and not D.
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1) The usage of which is redundant, so we can eliminate A & B.
2)When we are comparing between the temperature between 2 cities the right preposition to use is "of" and when we are describing a temperature in a city "in" is the right preposition, using this we can eliminate E
3) Among C and D the "and" wrongly introduces a contrast (there is no need for that) eliminate C.

The answer is D
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