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I gave the exam like two weeks ago

I know what I am talking about

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May be you didn’t encounter that but I did.

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aayushimehta12, Those questions had same choices St-1 sufficient, St-2 sufficient , each, neither or combined. A typical DS question

this is not in any prep question

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I go withAryaa03,

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I remember the question as welk but I can’t sgare it here. Sorry but I gave exam around two weeks ago and had two such questions

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great please send an example

will believe then

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It’s up to you to believe or not. I reported what I got and there is nothing for me to prove. Good luck

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to you too

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Why don’t believe there being verbal ds

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Some experienced test taker who really understands the test and knows how to handle it with some maturity can comment on it.

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Yeah we need managers here

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yes you are right. Let @chetan handle this query. Thanks!

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Hello everyone,
Lot of dscn on Verbal DS. Comments on the query raised
1. Yes, Verbal DS are a part of GMAT Focus. But, these are part of a larger pool of DS questions and you may not necessarily encounter one in your official test.
2. Difficulty: They may sound problematic initially but can be solved logically.
3. Type of questions: Similar to DS. You could be given a para on ranks in a class or seating arrangement in a class and then asked whether A is sitting next to B or whether A is ahead of B in ranking. Then, the two statements may give you some restrictions that could or may not get you closer to your answer.
4. Are they new?: Yes, they are new in GMAT. But, one could see these type of questions in Indian CAT exams even 20 years back. In GMAT, the level of course is slightly easier. So, they are doable and nothing to worry about
5. We should be able to get you some good quality questions to practice.

Hope it helps you!

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WOW!!! THANKS!

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Thank you

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Hello everyone, Lot of dscn on Verbal DS. Comments on the query raised 1. Yes, Verbal DS are a part of GMAT Focus. But, these are part of a larger pool of DS questions and you may not necessarily encounter one in your official test. 2. Difficulty: They may sound problematic initially but can be solved logically. 3. Type of questions: Similar to DS. You could be given a para on ranks in a class or seating arrangement in a class and then asked whether A is sitting next to B or whether A is ahead of B in ranking. Then, the two statements may give you some restrictions that could or may not get you closer to your answer. 4. Are they new?: Yes, they are new in GMAT. But, one could see these type of questions in Indian CAT exams even 20 years back. In GMAT, the level of course is slightly easier. So, they are doable and nothing to worry about 5. We should be able to get you some good quality questions to practice. Hope it helps you!

Do you know if these are part of the official material or is this showing up in the actual exam only?

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Hello everyone, Lot of dscn on Verbal DS. Comments on the query raised 1. Yes, Verbal DS are a part of GMAT Focus. But, these are part of a larger pool of DS questions and you may not necessarily encounter one in your official test. 2. Difficulty: They may sound problematic initially but can be solved logically. 3. Type of questions: Similar to DS. You could be given a para on ranks in a class or seating arrangement in a class and then asked whether A is sitting next to B or whether A is ahead of B in ranking. Then, the two statements may give you some restrictions that could or may not get you closer to your answer. 4. Are they new?: Yes, they are new in GMAT. But, one could see these type of questions in Indian CAT exams even 20 years back. In GMAT, the level of course is slightly easier. So, they are doable and nothing to worry about 5. We should be able to get you some good quality questions to practice. Hope it helps you!

Thank you for your response. Awesome!

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Can some experienced test taker comment on this?

@poojaarora1818 Regarding "Verbal" DS:

All 6 score reports from actual tests I reviewed had 3 of the 8 DS be "Non-Math Related".

In contrast, the 7 practice tests I reviewed (#1 and #2) had only 5 or 6 DS, and all were "Math-Related".

However, a student got 2/3 and 3/3 Non-Math Related DS wrong on 2 exams, and still scored 100%-ile on DS, with the other Math-Related ones correct, which suggests that those Non-Math questions were Experimental. So, it's possible that, at least at the moment, the Non-Math are more likely to be Experimental.

Out of the 43 "hard" DS in the OG 2024 online question bank accessed at mba.com, 11 are new and are Verbal/Logic DS. These are not in the physical book.

I'm hoping that we will see more Verbal DS questions released at the end of May in the new OG.

Here's an example score report:

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8 DS (3 are "Non-Math Related")
5 Graphs and Tables (likely 3 Graphs and 2 Tables, since every practice test had more graphs than tables, but I'd be curious if anyone remembers this split from their actual test)
4 Two-Part Analysis
3 Multi-Source Reasoning

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Thank you

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Hello everyone, Lot of dscn on Verbal DS. Comments on the query raised 1. Yes, Verbal DS are a part of GMAT Focus. But, these are part of a larger pool of DS questions and you may not necessarily encounter one in your official test. 2. Difficulty: They may sound problematic initially but can be solved logically. 3. Type of questions: Similar to DS. You could be given a para on ranks in a class or seating arrangement in a class and then asked whether A is sitting next to B or whether A is ahead of B in ranking. Then, the two statements may give you some restrictions that could or may not get you closer to your answer. 4. Are they new?: Yes, they are new in GMAT. But, one could see these type of questions in Indian CAT exams even 20 years back. In GMAT, the level of course is slightly easier. So, they are doable and nothing to worry about 5. We should be able to get you some good quality questions to practice. Hope it helps you!

Do you know if these are part of the official material or is this showing up in the actual exam only?

playthegame Yes, you can find 11 new Verbal/Logic DS among the 43 "hard" DS in the OG 2024 online question bank accessed at mba.com. These are not in the physical book. They were added to the online question bank sometime between June and October 2023.

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Can some experienced test taker comment on this?

DI Breakdown on Actual Test:

8 DS (3 are "Non-Math Related")
5 Graphs and Tables (likely 3 Graphs and 2 Tables, since every practice test had more graphs than tables, but I'd be curious if anyone remembers this split from their actual test)
4 Two-Part Analysis
3 Multi-Source Reasoning

GMATCoachBen Thank you so much for your valuable feedback, Ben! If, I correctly remember some of the Target Test Prep students mentioned the same thing in their debriefs they had experienced 2-3 Verbal DS ques which were logic-based reasoning or non-maths ques on their tests. But were those questions categorized under experimental or non-experimental hard to say?

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