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C-trap:

      If x and y are consecutive odd integers, what is the sum of x and y?
      (1) The product of x and y is negative.
      (2) One of the integers is equal to –1.
      Answer: A

      Second condition is obviously insufficient and strongly support first one that seems to be insufficient.
      https://gmatclub.com/forum/if-x-and-y-a ... 89783.html

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      What is the perimeter of quadrangle ABCD in which a circle is inscribed?
      1) AB+DC=8
      2) BC=5
      Answer: A

      Second condition is obviously insufficient and strongly support first one that seems to be insufficient.
      https://gmatclub.com/forum/what-is-the- ... 22830.html

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      A starting line up of a team consists of x men and y women. There are also 4 reserve players, 2 of whom are men. If one of the starting players is unable to play and needs to be replaced by one of the reserves, what is the probability that the number of women on the starting team will increase?
      1) x+y =12
      2) x/y=1/3
      Answer: B

      the problem depends on the ratio x/y rather than absolute value of x and y. This subtype of C-trap problems is a typical one for %- and average- problems.
      https://gmatclub.com/forum/a-starting-l ... 54264.html

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      A jewelry dealer initially offered a bracelet for sale at an asking price that would give a profit to the dealer of 40 percent of the original cost. What was the original cost of the bracelet?
      (1) After reducing this asking price by 10 percent, the jewelry dealer sold the bracelet at a profit of $403.
      (2) The jewelry dealer sold the bracelet for $1,953.
      Answer: A

      Second condition is obviously insufficient and strongly support first one that seems to be insufficient.
      https://gmatclub.com/forum/a-jewelry-de ... 89044.html

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Thanks for a great thread. Here's my contribution...

If d denotes a decimal, is d >= 0.5?
i) When d is rounded off to nearest 10th, the result is 0.5
ii) When d is rounded off to nearest integer, the result is 1.

Answer is B, and if you fast enough you might be driven into a C trap.
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Walker, how did you reach the answer to this problem?

What is the perimeter of quadrangle ABCD in which a circle is inscribed?
1) AB+DC=8
2) BC=5
Answer: A
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You can see here: 7-t61627

1. First of all, I think the problem is a very tough one.
2. after I read second condition that is obviously insufficient, I thought that the problem looks like a C-trap.
3. It is obvious that for any quadrangle both conditions are insufficient. Therefore, "inscribed" restriction of the quadrangle may be crucial.
4. On the basis of my steps 2&3, I tried to find properties of the quadrangle with "inscribed" restriction and to proof that the first condition is sufficient and answer is A.
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I got the spy girl question mentioned at the top no later than this afternoon on a gmat prep test.
I answered E but the correct answer given is C. Can someone help please ?

What fraction of this year's graduating students at a certain college are males?
a. Of this year's graduating students, 33 percent of the males and 20 percent of the females transferred from another college.
b. Of this year's graduating students, 25 percent transferred from another college.
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I got the spy girl question mentioned at the top no later than this afternoon on a gmat prep test.
I answered E but the correct answer given is C. Can someone help please ?

What fraction of this year's graduating students at a certain college are males?
a. Of this year's graduating students, 33 percent of the males and 20 percent of the females transferred from another college.
b. Of this year's graduating students, 25 percent transferred from another college.

From S2, if we have m males and f females, (m+f)/4 transfered from another college. From S1, m/3 + f/5 transferred from another college. These are equal:

(m + f)/4 = m/3 + f/5
15m + 15f = 20m + 12f
5m = 3f
m/f = 3/5

so the ratio of men to women is 3 to 5, and 3/8 of all students are male.

Alternatively you could recognize that the two statements combined give us a weighted average situation; from the first statement we know the % from each group who transferred, and from the second statement we know the % of the two groups combined who transferred, from which it is always possible to find the ratio of the two groups; there's no need to calculate anything here.

I'm not sure why the answer is indicated as E in the post at the beginning of this thread.
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What is the value of x?

i. x + 2y = 6
ii. 4y + 2x = 12

So the answer would be E (because x could be anything and the question asks for a precise value of x)? Yes. Am I right? Yes.



if v combine the 2 stmnts v can gt the value of x . so shudnt the answer be C ?? plz correct me if im wrong :)
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What is the value of x?

i. x + 2y = 6
ii. 4y + 2x = 12

So the answer would be E (because x could be anything and the question asks for a precise value of x)? Yes. Am I right?


if v combine the 2 stmnts v can gt the value of x . so shudnt the answer be C ?? plz correct me if im wrong :)

That's the trap here!

Stmnt 1: x + 2y = 6
Stmnt 2: 4y + 2x = 12 which is same as 2y + x = 6 (divide LHS and RHS by 2)

Notice that stmnts 1 and 2 are essentially the same. We don't really have two equations to solve for x and y. They are the same equation.

One equation is not sufficient and hence the answer will be E.
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Thanks. DS is proving to be a real problem area for me. Will definitely try to incorporate the above points.
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