Last visit was: 27 Apr 2026, 11:32 It is currently 27 Apr 2026, 11:32
Close
GMAT Club Daily Prep
Thank you for using the timer - this advanced tool can estimate your performance and suggest more practice questions. We have subscribed you to Daily Prep Questions via email.

Customized
for You

we will pick new questions that match your level based on your Timer History

Track
Your Progress

every week, we’ll send you an estimated GMAT score based on your performance

Practice
Pays

we will pick new questions that match your level based on your Timer History
Not interested in getting valuable practice questions and articles delivered to your email? No problem, unsubscribe here.
Close
Request Expert Reply
Confirm Cancel
User avatar
Mortysmith
Joined: 01 Dec 2015
Last visit: 10 Jan 2018
Posts: 25
Own Kudos:
Given Kudos: 38
Concentration: Finance, Leadership
GMAT 1: 740 Q49 V41
GPA: 3.95
WE:Business Development (Insurance)
Products:
GMAT 1: 740 Q49 V41
Posts: 25
Kudos: 7
Kudos
Add Kudos
Bookmarks
Bookmark this Post
User avatar
EMPOWERgmatRichC
User avatar
Major Poster
Joined: 19 Dec 2014
Last visit: 31 Dec 2023
Posts: 21,777
Own Kudos:
Given Kudos: 450
Status:GMAT Assassin/Co-Founder
Affiliations: EMPOWERgmat
Location: United States (CA)
GMAT 1: 800 Q51 V49
GRE 1: Q170 V170
Expert
Expert reply
GMAT 1: 800 Q51 V49
GRE 1: Q170 V170
Posts: 21,777
Kudos: 13,055
Kudos
Add Kudos
Bookmarks
Bookmark this Post
User avatar
Mortysmith
Joined: 01 Dec 2015
Last visit: 10 Jan 2018
Posts: 25
Own Kudos:
Given Kudos: 38
Concentration: Finance, Leadership
GMAT 1: 740 Q49 V41
GPA: 3.95
WE:Business Development (Insurance)
Products:
GMAT 1: 740 Q49 V41
Posts: 25
Kudos: 7
Kudos
Add Kudos
Bookmarks
Bookmark this Post
User avatar
Ekland
Joined: 15 Oct 2015
Last visit: 30 Apr 2023
Posts: 355
Own Kudos:
Given Kudos: 342
Concentration: Finance, Strategy
GPA: 3.93
WE:Account Management (Education)
Kudos
Add Kudos
Bookmarks
Bookmark this Post
I have to say this. My suggestion might be weird.

The GMAT seems to be improving significantly in terms of difficulty level for the test taker.
While the prep test you took online from some prep guys have been the questions in their server for almost a decade... the questions in the GMAT real exam you will take are not just new questions but ALSO with content, twists, and registar that are NOT totally the same with those in the prepCAT you took.

This is why I think the real preparation for GMAT is understanding the mind of the test creators. What do they expect of you in a question? E.g. What really do they mean by "weaken", "Most closely parallels", etc...
It's not about taking several CATs as it is about understanding the core principle of raw Arithmetic and mastering the language & reasoning in verbal.
I wish I knew this earlier. E.g a good book on fundamental arithmetic will help you increase your score than CATs.

Let me suggest weirdly that you also sample some hard verbal questions from OG and try to create questions yourself copying the reasoning in the real question. U might want to give your questions to an expert to look at. If the expert says : "This question is not very GMATlike" OR hold any reservations about the question(s), then chances are high you are yet to be at 90percentile score.
Even if you register for a new lesson, it will only rehash what you know.

Try and use any means to grab the mind of the test giver.
Use weird means if you can. go off book if you can.

Analyse a question for two days or two weeks, creating many more possible stimuli/questions from idea behind that question and exposing the question to an expert or a your paid tutor.



PS: If you didn't feel tired towards the end of the test, chances are high you got some questions wrong because you didn't think through them enough. Your mental energy level is NOT going to be at initial level if are thinking for about 4 hours.

Posted from my mobile device
User avatar
EMPOWERgmatRichC
User avatar
Major Poster
Joined: 19 Dec 2014
Last visit: 31 Dec 2023
Posts: 21,777
Own Kudos:
Given Kudos: 450
Status:GMAT Assassin/Co-Founder
Affiliations: EMPOWERgmat
Location: United States (CA)
GMAT 1: 800 Q51 V49
GRE 1: Q170 V170
Expert
Expert reply
GMAT 1: 800 Q51 V49
GRE 1: Q170 V170
Posts: 21,777
Kudos: 13,055
Kudos
Add Kudos
Bookmarks
Bookmark this Post
Hi Mortysmith,

The extra information that you've provided is quite useful, as it helps to define what went wrong on Test Day. In real basic terms, you took your CATs in such a way that you were NOT properly training to face the Official GMAT.

Test Day is a rather specific 'event' - the details are specific and they matter, so you have to train as best as you can for all of them. The more realistic you can make your CATs, the more likely the score results are to be accurate. The more you deviate, the more "inflated" your scores can become - and that's what happened here. By skipping sections, taking the CATs at a different time of day, etc., you weren't properly training for the FULL GMAT 'experience.'

Thankfully, this is a relatively easy set of problems to fix. The big question now is "how long will it take you to properly get 'used to' taking the full GMAT?" You'll certainly need a new set of practice CATs to work with and you have to put in the necessary time to train your brain (and body) for the FULL GMAT. You might also need to invest in some new GMAT training materials.

1) What were your Quant and Verbal Scaled Scores on your Official GMAT and on each of your CATs?

GMAT assassins aren't born, they're made,
Rich
User avatar
Mortysmith
Joined: 01 Dec 2015
Last visit: 10 Jan 2018
Posts: 25
Own Kudos:
Given Kudos: 38
Concentration: Finance, Leadership
GMAT 1: 740 Q49 V41
GPA: 3.95
WE:Business Development (Insurance)
Products:
GMAT 1: 740 Q49 V41
Posts: 25
Kudos: 7
Kudos
Add Kudos
Bookmarks
Bookmark this Post
EMPOWERgmatRichC
Hi Mortysmith,

The extra information that you've provided is quite useful, as it helps to define what went wrong on Test Day. In real basic terms, you took your CATs in such a way that you were NOT properly training to face the Official GMAT.

Test Day is a rather specific 'event' - the details are specific and they matter, so you have to train as best as you can for all of them. The more realistic you can make your CATs, the more likely the score results are to be accurate. The more you deviate, the more "inflated" your scores can become - and that's what happened here. By skipping sections, taking the CATs at a different time of day, etc., you weren't properly training for the FULL GMAT 'experience.'

Thankfully, this is a relatively easy set of problems to fix. The big question now is "how long will it take you to properly get 'used to' taking the full GMAT?" You'll certainly need a new set of practice CATs to work with and you have to put in the necessary time to train your brain (and body) for the FULL GMAT. You might also need to invest in some new GMAT training materials.

1) What were your Quant and Verbal Scaled Scores on your Official GMAT and on each of your CATs?

GMAT assassins aren't born, they're made,
Rich

Rich,

Thank you again for the responsiveness.

I'm surprised to hear that such a small deviation would matter. Although, my results certainly could suggest you are correct.

1) 710 Q49, V38
2) 710 Q45, V41
3) 690 Q47, V38
4) 720 Q47, V41

Actual Test :cry: 620 Q42, V34
User avatar
HiLine
Joined: 27 Mar 2016
Last visit: 13 Jun 2018
Posts: 312
Own Kudos:
225
 [1]
Given Kudos: 27
Location: United States (CO)
GMAT 1: 770 Q51 V44
GPA: 3.69
WE:Analyst (Consulting)
GMAT 1: 770 Q51 V44
Posts: 312
Kudos: 225
 [1]
1
Kudos
Add Kudos
Bookmarks
Bookmark this Post
Mortysmith
Hey Everyone,

I took the GMAT this morning and was extremely disappointed. I scored a 620 after scoring a 690, 710, 710 and 720 on the official practice exams and a 710 on my last Manhattan prep, each with mostly test like environments. I have no idea what happened.

Given that I intend on applying to top 10 schools, in a split second decision, I elected to cancels my scores.

Question 1: was canceling my score wise? I assume that if I can pull off a 720 or 730 on my next sitting, schools wouldn't view the cancelation as a big deal. I'll then address the cancelation in a supplemental essay if needed

Question 2: in your view, what's the best way to reevaluate my scoring level? Part of me is convinced this score is an aberration given my past performance but I am now certainly in the market for different test prep materials.

Thanks for the feedback!!!

Mortysmith, sorry to hear of the significant deviation. Before offering any advice, I'd like to know one thing.

How did you feel during the official test? Be as specific as you can.
User avatar
Mortysmith
Joined: 01 Dec 2015
Last visit: 10 Jan 2018
Posts: 25
Own Kudos:
Given Kudos: 38
Concentration: Finance, Leadership
GMAT 1: 740 Q49 V41
GPA: 3.95
WE:Business Development (Insurance)
Products:
GMAT 1: 740 Q49 V41
Posts: 25
Kudos: 7
Kudos
Add Kudos
Bookmarks
Bookmark this Post
HiLine
Mortysmith
Hey Everyone,

I took the GMAT this morning and was extremely disappointed. I scored a 620 after scoring a 690, 710, 710 and 720 on the official practice exams and a 710 on my last Manhattan prep, each with mostly test like environments. I have no idea what happened.

Given that I intend on applying to top 10 schools, in a split second decision, I elected to cancels my scores.

Question 1: was canceling my score wise? I assume that if I can pull off a 720 or 730 on my next sitting, schools wouldn't view the cancelation as a big deal. I'll then address the cancelation in a supplemental essay if needed

Question 2: in your view, what's the best way to reevaluate my scoring level? Part of me is convinced this score is an aberration given my past performance but I am now certainly in the market for different test prep materials.

Thanks for the feedback!!!

Mortysmith, sorry to hear of the significant deviation. Before offering any advice, I'd like to know one thing.

How did you feel during the official test? Be as specific as you can.

Hiline,

Thanks so much for responding. I really appreciate the support.

I generally felt fine - a bit nervous at the beginning but generally ok. Unfortunately, on the first Quant question I froze a bit but regained my composure and thought I solved the question correctly. A few questions later I was asked another quant which I looked at and thought I would be able to solve quickly but couldnt. That threw me off a bit as well. After these 2 events, I felt better and moved through everything well, at least I thought well.

On Verbal, I was a bit weaker in the Science RC and got nailed with one of those on questions 4-6. After that series though I felt fine.

I wasnt too nervous before the test since I was consistently putting up solid numbers.

Let me know what you think

mortysmith
User avatar
HiLine
Joined: 27 Mar 2016
Last visit: 13 Jun 2018
Posts: 312
Own Kudos:
225
 [1]
Given Kudos: 27
Location: United States (CO)
GMAT 1: 770 Q51 V44
GPA: 3.69
WE:Analyst (Consulting)
GMAT 1: 770 Q51 V44
Posts: 312
Kudos: 225
 [1]
1
Kudos
Add Kudos
Bookmarks
Bookmark this Post
Mortysmith
HiLine
Mortysmith
Hey Everyone,

I took the GMAT this morning and was extremely disappointed. I scored a 620 after scoring a 690, 710, 710 and 720 on the official practice exams and a 710 on my last Manhattan prep, each with mostly test like environments. I have no idea what happened.

Given that I intend on applying to top 10 schools, in a split second decision, I elected to cancels my scores.

Question 1: was canceling my score wise? I assume that if I can pull off a 720 or 730 on my next sitting, schools wouldn't view the cancelation as a big deal. I'll then address the cancelation in a supplemental essay if needed

Question 2: in your view, what's the best way to reevaluate my scoring level? Part of me is convinced this score is an aberration given my past performance but I am now certainly in the market for different test prep materials.

Thanks for the feedback!!!

Mortysmith, sorry to hear of the significant deviation. Before offering any advice, I'd like to know one thing.

How did you feel during the official test? Be as specific as you can.

Hiline,

Thanks so much for responding. I really appreciate the support.

I generally felt fine - a bit nervous at the beginning but generally ok. Unfortunately, on the first Quant question I froze a bit but regained my composure and thought I solved the question correctly. A few questions later I was asked another quant which I looked at and thought I would be able to solve quickly but couldnt. That threw me off a bit as well. After these 2 events, I felt better and moved through everything well, at least I thought well.

On Verbal, I was a bit weaker in the Science RC and got nailed with one of those on questions 4-6. After that series though I felt fine.

I wasnt too nervous before the test since I was consistently putting up solid numbers.

Let me know what you think

mortysmith

Here's my interpretation.

Your accuracy was lower than expected. It seems apparent that you answered wrong many quant questions that you did not consider difficult at the time, and the same goes for verbal. Inconsistency is to be expected since the actual test day always feels much more serious than practice test days; the pressure can really damage your focus and accuracy. An 80-point deviation is out of the norm, however. How did you do on time? It is possible that you did not carefully review contender answer choices before selecting the final answer, a typical habit for a test taker under time pressure. Perhaps the science reading comprehension passage threw you off balance for the rest of the verbal section?

In general, do you feel that you did anything differently for the actual test than you did for the practice tests? Try to recall, and be honest with yourself. The answer to this question can save you a lot of time and money in the coming month.
User avatar
Mortysmith
Joined: 01 Dec 2015
Last visit: 10 Jan 2018
Posts: 25
Own Kudos:
Given Kudos: 38
Concentration: Finance, Leadership
GMAT 1: 740 Q49 V41
GPA: 3.95
WE:Business Development (Insurance)
Products:
GMAT 1: 740 Q49 V41
Posts: 25
Kudos: 7
Kudos
Add Kudos
Bookmarks
Bookmark this Post
Hiline,

Thanks again for your response. I wish I knew exactly what threw me off but its unclear. My nerves certainly could have gotten a hold of me though I didnt feel too nervous. During practice exams I didnt do AWA or IR, so those could have thrown me off as well.

I can't honestly say what I did differently during the test. During quant, I generally felt OK. For verbal, the major difference is that I didnt have enough time to set up my answer grid. Also, I think the Science passage did throw me off.

Thanks again for the feedback.

Mortysmith
User avatar
HiLine
Joined: 27 Mar 2016
Last visit: 13 Jun 2018
Posts: 312
Own Kudos:
225
 [1]
Given Kudos: 27
Location: United States (CO)
GMAT 1: 770 Q51 V44
GPA: 3.69
WE:Analyst (Consulting)
GMAT 1: 770 Q51 V44
Posts: 312
Kudos: 225
 [1]
1
Kudos
Add Kudos
Bookmarks
Bookmark this Post
Mortysmith
Hiline,

Thanks again for your response. I wish I knew exactly what threw me off but its unclear. My nerves certainly could have gotten a hold of me though I didnt feel too nervous. During practice exams I didnt do AWA or IR, so those could have thrown me off as well.

I can't honestly say what I did differently during the test. During quant, I generally felt OK. For verbal, the major difference is that I didnt have enough time to set up my answer grid. Also, I think the Science passage did throw me off.

Thanks again for the feedback.

Mortysmith

Mortysmith,

Skipping AWA and IR could really affect your score, as a fatigued brain functions very differently from a fresh one. It could be that the AWA and IR sections which you took seriously for the first time not only tired you out but also took away your focus on the 2 later sections.

I think you already have a solid foundation as you were scoring around 700 on the timed practice tests. But if I were you I would add the AWA and IR sections to the next timed practice I'd take. If timing and mental fatigue are the only barriers to you cracking the 700's, the good news is these issues are relatively easy to fix. Let me know how your next practice test goes!
User avatar
Mortysmith
Joined: 01 Dec 2015
Last visit: 10 Jan 2018
Posts: 25
Own Kudos:
Given Kudos: 38
Concentration: Finance, Leadership
GMAT 1: 740 Q49 V41
GPA: 3.95
WE:Business Development (Insurance)
Products:
GMAT 1: 740 Q49 V41
Posts: 25
Kudos: 7
Kudos
Add Kudos
Bookmarks
Bookmark this Post
HiLine
Mortysmith
Hiline,

Thanks again for your response. I wish I knew exactly what threw me off but its unclear. My nerves certainly could have gotten a hold of me though I didnt feel too nervous. During practice exams I didnt do AWA or IR, so those could have thrown me off as well.

I can't honestly say what I did differently during the test. During quant, I generally felt OK. For verbal, the major difference is that I didnt have enough time to set up my answer grid. Also, I think the Science passage did throw me off.

Thanks again for the feedback.

Mortysmith

Mortysmith,

Skipping AWA and IR could really affect your score, as a fatigued brain functions very differently from a fresh one. It could be that the AWA and IR sections which you took seriously for the first time not only tired you out but also took away your focus on the 2 later sections.

I think you already have a solid foundation as you were scoring around 700 on the timed practice tests. But if I were you I would add the AWA and IR sections to the next timed practice I'd take. If timing and mental fatigue are the only barriers to you cracking the 700's, the good news is these issues are relatively easy to fix. Let me know how your next practice test goes!

Ok, thanks a lot for the feedback Hiline - I'll be sure to let you know.

Best,

mortysmith
User avatar
Mortysmith
Joined: 01 Dec 2015
Last visit: 10 Jan 2018
Posts: 25
Own Kudos:
Given Kudos: 38
Concentration: Finance, Leadership
GMAT 1: 740 Q49 V41
GPA: 3.95
WE:Business Development (Insurance)
Products:
GMAT 1: 740 Q49 V41
Posts: 25
Kudos: 7
Kudos
Add Kudos
Bookmarks
Bookmark this Post
Mortysmith
HiLine
Mortysmith
Hiline,

Thanks again for your response. I wish I knew exactly what threw me off but its unclear. My nerves certainly could have gotten a hold of me though I didnt feel too nervous. During practice exams I didnt do AWA or IR, so those could have thrown me off as well.

I can't honestly say what I did differently during the test. During quant, I generally felt OK. For verbal, the major difference is that I didnt have enough time to set up my answer grid. Also, I think the Science passage did throw me off.

Thanks again for the feedback.

Mortysmith

Mortysmith,

Skipping AWA and IR could really affect your score, as a fatigued brain functions very differently from a fresh one. It could be that the AWA and IR sections which you took seriously for the first time not only tired you out but also took away your focus on the 2 later sections.

I think you already have a solid foundation as you were scoring around 700 on the timed practice tests. But if I were you I would add the AWA and IR sections to the next timed practice I'd take. If timing and mental fatigue are the only barriers to you cracking the 700's, the good news is these issues are relatively easy to fix. Let me know how your next practice test goes!

Ok, thanks a lot for the feedback Hiline - I'll be sure to let you know.

Best,

mortysmith

HiLine,

I hope all is well. Took a practice GMAT with test like environment, i.e. full AWA and IR and got Q48/V39, another 710.

Going to simulate the test a few more times and try and take the official again. Still convinced my 620 was an aberration.

Thanks for the help.

Mortysmith
User avatar
HiLine
Joined: 27 Mar 2016
Last visit: 13 Jun 2018
Posts: 312
Own Kudos:
225
 [1]
Given Kudos: 27
Location: United States (CO)
GMAT 1: 770 Q51 V44
GPA: 3.69
WE:Analyst (Consulting)
GMAT 1: 770 Q51 V44
Posts: 312
Kudos: 225
 [1]
1
Kudos
Add Kudos
Bookmarks
Bookmark this Post
Mortysmith


HiLine,

I hope all is well. Took a practice GMAT with test like environment, i.e. full AWA and IR and got Q48/V39, another 710.

Going to simulate the test a few more times and try and take the official again. Still convinced my 620 was an aberration.

Thanks for the help.

Mortysmith

Fantastic. Nice job, mortysmith!

Now, the next thing to do is to improve your practice GMAT score. In case your test day performance is not as strong as your performance on practice tests, you still want to be in the safe zone. If you're aiming for 700, scoring 750 on your practice tests will make a strong guarantee. It is likely that the actual test will throw a few curve balls at you, so you want to be extra careful with attaining your target score. If you actually peak out on your test day and score 750+, even better!
User avatar
AjiteshArun
User avatar
Major Poster
Joined: 15 Jul 2015
Last visit: 27 Apr 2026
Posts: 6,079
Own Kudos:
Given Kudos: 744
Location: India
GMAT Focus 1: 715 Q83 V90 DI83
GMAT 1: 780 Q50 V51
GRE 1: Q170 V169
Expert
Expert reply
GMAT Focus 1: 715 Q83 V90 DI83
GMAT 1: 780 Q50 V51
GRE 1: Q170 V169
Posts: 6,079
Kudos: 5,140
Kudos
Add Kudos
Bookmarks
Bookmark this Post
Mortysmith
I wish I knew exactly what threw me off but its unclear. My nerves certainly could have gotten a hold of me though I didnt feel too nervous. During practice exams I didnt do AWA or IR, so those could have thrown me off as well.

I can't honestly say what I did differently during the test. During quant, I generally felt OK. For verbal, the major difference is that I didnt have enough time to set up my answer grid. Also, I think the Science passage did throw me off.
Get the ESR. Since it'll contain all the information you're ever going to get about that attempt, put everything else behind you. Check whether the score drop was in fact due to your performance in RC.

As for the grid, even a quick "ABCDE" as you're reading the question works. That's probably not the reason for the score drop.

Mortysmith
Question 1: was canceling my score wise? I assume that if I can pull off a 720 or 730 on my next sitting, schools wouldn't view the cancelation as a big deal. I'll then address the cancelation in a supplemental essay if needed
Schools will never even know that you took a test that day, unless you reinstate your 620 before sending them the 700+ that you're looking for.
User avatar
Mortysmith
Joined: 01 Dec 2015
Last visit: 10 Jan 2018
Posts: 25
Own Kudos:
Given Kudos: 38
Concentration: Finance, Leadership
GMAT 1: 740 Q49 V41
GPA: 3.95
WE:Business Development (Insurance)
Products:
GMAT 1: 740 Q49 V41
Posts: 25
Kudos: 7
Kudos
Add Kudos
Bookmarks
Bookmark this Post
Hey everyone,

Thanks again for your responses. Since this test, I've taken the GMAT again and scored a 700.

Thanks for the support.

mortysmith
Moderators:
193 posts
General GMAT Forum Moderator
473 posts