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Educator Maria Montessori believed that students be allowed to choose from among a number of different lessons designed for the encouragement of their development as thinkers and creators with individual learning and thinking styles.

A) that students be allowed to choose from among a number of different lessons designed for the encouragement of

B) that students be allowed to choose between a number of different lessons designed to encourage

C) that students should be allowed to choose among a number of different lessons designed to encourage

D) in allowing students to choose from among a number of different lessons were designed for encouraging

E) in allowing students to choose between a number of different lessons designed for the encouragement of

Here 'believed' signifies command so 'that' must follow it and an option which signify a definitive statement would be right answer. Secondly, 'between' can't be used for many lessons - it is used when only things are available to choose from.
A - 'be allowed' is wrong. It suggests as if something is predicted in future when instead it about the reporting of past fact. 'for the encouragement of' is wordy.
B - 'be allowed' and 'between'.
C - CORRECT.
D - 'that were designed' is required but that again would have made it looks cumbersome. 'for encouraging' - infinitive verb is required.
E - 'between' and 'for the encouragement of' are wrong.

'In allowing' is okay.

IMO Answer C.
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Educator Maria Montessori believed that students be allowed to choose from among a number of different lessons designed for the encouragement of their development as thinkers and creators with individual learning and thinking styles.

A) that students be allowed to choose from among a number of different lessons designed for the encouragement of

B) that students be allowed to choose between a number of different lessons designed to encourage

C) that students should be allowed to choose among a number of different lessons designed to encourage

D) in allowing students to choose from among a number of different lessons were designed for encouraging

E) in allowing students to choose between a number of different lessons designed for the encouragement of


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Lets quickly eliminate B and E for using "between" for more than 2 elements.

Now in A and D "from among" is redundant


C clears all these errors and hence our OA

Although there are still a few other errors in options. Time cutting is very important. So these are fine to reach the answer.

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Educator Maria Montessori believed that students be allowed to choose from among a number of different lessons designed for the encouragement of their development as thinkers and creators with individual learning and thinking styles.

A) that students be allowed to choose from among a number of different lessons designed for the encouragement of

C) that students should be allowed to choose among a number of different lessons designed to encourage

In above approaches: lnm87 wrote:
Here 'believed' signifies command so 'that' must follow it and an option which signify a definitive statement would be right answer

I feel that believed is not a subjunctive verb since I have not seen an usage of should with this type of verbs.
E.g. I insist that government should ease few ease few restrictions in lock down. (Incorrect)
I insist that government ease few ease few restrictions in lock down. (Correct)
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Experts please help why "Should " is correct.
I have read never use Should in subjunctive construction. Is there any gap in my understanding???
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Educator Maria Montessori believed that students be allowed to choose from among a number of different lessons designed for the encouragement of their development as thinkers and creators with individual learning and thinking styles.

A) that students be allowed to choose from among a number of different lessons designed for the encouragement of

C) that students should be allowed to choose among a number of different lessons designed to encourage

In above approaches: lnm87 wrote:
Here 'believed' signifies command so 'that' must follow it and an option which signify a definitive statement would be right answer

I feel that believed is not a subjunctive verb since I have not seen an usage of should with this type of verbs.
E.g. I insist that government should ease few ease few restrictions in lock down. (Incorrect)
I insist that government ease few ease few restrictions in lock down. (Correct)

I understand the confusion, adkikani, but I do not think lnm87 was calling believed a subjunctive verb. Rather, I think the point was to justify the use of that. The that versus no that issue is not really up for debate in the question at hand, though, since all of (A) through (C) employ the that. In general, it is a good idea to focus on what each question presents, in terms of grammar and meaning, rather than attempt to derive hard-and-fast rules about any similar type of sentence. In this sentence above, someone in the past is able to have believed that someone or some entity should have been allowed to do something. There is no problem at all.

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adkikani wrote:
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Educator Maria Montessori believed that students be allowed to choose from among a number of different lessons designed for the encouragement of their development as thinkers and creators with individual learning and thinking styles.

A) that students be allowed to choose from among a number of different lessons designed for the encouragement of

C) that students should be allowed to choose among a number of different lessons designed to encourage

In above approaches: lnm87 wrote:
Here 'believed' signifies command so 'that' must follow it and an option which signify a definitive statement would be right answer

I feel that believed is not a subjunctive verb since I have not seen an usage of should with this type of verbs.
E.g. I insist that government should ease few ease few restrictions in lock down. (Incorrect)
I insist that government ease few ease few restrictions in lock down. (Correct)

I understand the confusion, adkikani, but I do not think lnm87 was calling believed a subjunctive verb. Rather, I think the point was to justify the use of that. The that versus no that issue is not really up for debate in the question at hand, though, since all of (A) through (C) employ the that. In general, it is a good idea to focus on what each question presents, in terms of grammar and meaning, rather than attempt to derive hard-and-fast rules about any similar type of sentence. In this sentence above, someone in the past is able to have believed that someone or some entity should have been allowed to do something. There is no problem at all.

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Thank you MentorTutoring..

I had tried explaining in somewhat similar meaning based (precisely timeline) approach but elaborated considering what the sentence would have looked like had future reference was made. Learnt one more thing. :thumbsup:
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Thank you MentorTutoring..

I had tried explaining in somewhat similar meaning based (precisely timeline) approach but elaborated considering what the sentence would have looked like had future reference was made. Learnt one more thing. :thumbsup:

No worries, lnm87. The goal is always to help those in the community better understand the issues that a given question presents. I thought in this case, you had said one thing while another member had interpreted it differently. I enjoy reading your posts. Keep up the good work.

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the difference between "to do" and "for doing" or "for+noun" trouble us many times.

this robot is designed for learning of persons
this robot is designed to learn the new things.

the first means that the robot is an instrument, which help persons learn. the second means the robot itself can learn to be better more intelligent robot.

this point is basic but few grammar books explain it

our problem is the same.

lesion designed for encouragement of something. this mean someone use the lesion to encourage something.
the lesion designed to encourage something. this means the lesion itself encourage something

a hard point.
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Educator Maria Montessori believed that students be allowed to choose from among a number of different lessons designed for the encouragement of their development as thinkers and creators with individual learning and thinking styles.

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A) that students be allowed to choose from among a number of different lessons designed for the encouragement of

1) bare instruction "be allowed" pushes to think it's a subjunctive mood, but the verb "believe" does not require subjunctive mood construction.
2) I'm not sure about "from among". Is it the right usage?
3) "designed for the encouragement of" does not look quite right either: (1) "to" suits better to present a goal (2) verb rather than noun works better in a correct option C (VAN principle)

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B) that students be allowed to choose between a number of different lessons designed to encourage

"be allowed" - same as in A
"between" is designed to present a choice between two alternatives while "among" - for more than two

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C) that students should be allowed to choose among a number of different lessons designed to encourage

correct choice

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D) in allowing students to choose from among a number of different lessons were designed for encouraging


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E) in allowing students to choose between a number of different lessons designed for the encouragement of
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the difference between "to do" and "for doing" or "for+noun" trouble us many times.

this robot is designed for learning of persons
this robot is designed to learn the new things.

the first means that the robot is an instrument, which help persons learn. the second means the robot itself can learn to be better more intelligent robot.

this point is basic but few grammar books explain it

our problem is the same.

lesion designed for encouragement of something. this mean someone use the lesion to encourage something.
the lesion designed to encourage something. this means the lesion itself encourage something

a hard point.
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Educator Maria Montessori believed that students be allowed to choose from among a number of different lessons designed for the encouragement of their development as thinkers and creators with individual learning and thinking styles.


A) that students be allowed to choose from among a number of different lessons designed for the encouragement of
“For the encouragement of” is wordy when we have a better choice.
From in “from among” is redundant.

B) that students be allowed to choose between a number of different lessons designed to encourage
Between is incorrect as it is used to make a choice between two things.

C) that students should be allowed to choose among a number of different lessons designed to encourage

D) in allowing students to choose from among a number of different lessons were designed for encouraging
From in “from among” is redundant.

E) in allowing students to choose between a number of different lessons designed for the encouragement of
Between is incorrect as it is used to make a choice between two things.
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choose from : can select many items.
choose among : selecting a single item

choose from among - is not unidiomatic?
choose from A or B - idiomatic
choose between A and B - idiomatic
choose among x,y and z- idiomatic
choose FROM between A and B - unidiomatic

EMPOWERgmatVerbal, please confirm
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choose from : can select many items.
choose among : selecting a single item

choose from among - is not unidiomatic?
choose from A or B - idiomatic
choose between A and B - idiomatic
choose among x,y and z- idiomatic
choose FROM between A and B - unidiomatic

EMPOWERgmatVerbal, please confirm


Correct, imSKR! Both "from among" and "from between" are redundant and not idiomatic! You can absolutely narrow down your options this way, and it's great to see that you found another angle to tackle this question!

There are often many different ways to handle a GMAT question. You took a different path than we did, and you arrived at the correct choice all the same! :) :thumbsup:
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Educator Maria Montessori believed that students be allowed to choose from among a number of different lessons designed for the encouragement of their development as thinkers and creators with individual learning and thinking styles.

A) that students be allowed to choose from among a number of different lessons designed for the encouragement of

B) that students be allowed to choose between a number of different lessons designed to encourage

C) that students should be allowed to choose among a number of different lessons designed to encourage

D) in allowing students to choose from among a number of different lessons were designed for encouraging

E) in allowing students to choose between a number of different lessons designed for the encouragement of


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Dear mikemcgarry, EMPOWERgmatVerbal,

Is it idiomatically appropriate to write the sentence below?

Educator Maria Montessori believed in allowing students to choose from ...
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Educator Maria Montessori believed that students be allowed to choose from among a number of different lessons designed for the encouragement of their development as thinkers and creators with individual learning and thinking styles.

A) that students be allowed to choose from among a number of different lessons designed for the encouragement of

B) that students be allowed to choose between a number of different lessons designed to encourage

C) that students should be allowed to choose among a number of different lessons designed to encourage

D) in allowing students to choose from among a number of different lessons were designed for encouraging

E) in allowing students to choose between a number of different lessons designed for the encouragement of


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please help to understand.
is the construction believed that subjunctive? if it is so, then does the use of modal 'should' justified?
is the construction believed in allowing is grammatically correct?
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Educator Maria Montessori believed that students be allowed to choose from among a number of different lessons designed for the encouragement of their development as thinkers and creators with individual learning and thinking styles.

A) that students be allowed to choose from among a number of different lessons designed for the encouragement of

B) that students be allowed to choose between a number of different lessons designed to encourage

C) that students should be allowed to choose among a number of different lessons designed to encourage

D) in allowing students to choose from among a number of different lessons were designed for encouraging

E) in allowing students to choose between a number of different lessons designed for the encouragement of


ANDREW
please help to understand.
is the construction believed that subjunctive? if it is so, then does the use of modal 'should' justified?
is the construction believed in allowing is grammatically correct?

Hello, sonusaini1. I believe you meant to tag me instead of someone who, apparently, has not visited the site since 2003. The verb to believe + that does not require the subjunctive tense, so (A) and (B) are incorrect. To answer the second question for both you and reynaldreni above, there is nothing wrong with believe in allowing, but there are other problems with options (D) and (E) that prevent us from getting behind them. Specifically, in (D), we get from among when among would be fine on its own, but the error that is easier to spot is the were designed part: allowing students to choose among lessons were designed? We seem to be missing a crucial that that would subordinate such information. In choice (E), there is an inappropriate use of between when more than two options (lessons) are mentioned, and we also come down to a split between designed to encourage and designed for the encouragement of.

I hope that helps. I have to run to my next lesson!

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Can someone please explain the usage of "that" and not using "that". I'm still confused as to where to use that and where to not. I know there are other differentiators in the options as well, but why that?
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