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Personally - i don't see how (B) is referring to the number of contributions as you mention above in the yellow highlight.

(B) seems to me to be clear enough and the comparison in (B) seems appropriate.

So, what’s your interpretation of “amount of contributions given by large companies,” jabhatta2?

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Hi AndrewN - it was between (B) vs (E) for me. I eliminated (E) because of the active voice verb [departed specifically ]

E) Few contributions departed.......

implies as if the contributions got up themselves and performed the verb (in the past tense) by itself.

We have to take what the GMAT gives us 'literally' in terms of meaning - I have certainly seen this 'taking sentences literally' as a elimination strategy for SC

Thus I thought E can be knocked out because of the usage of the active voice verb (Departed) with the subject [Contributions]

The subject (=Contributions) cannot perform the verb by itself.

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Well, jabhatta2, you are going to have to develop a keener sense for which considerations are worth eliminating over and which are not. In standard English, a contribution can be said to depart from a certain tendency, a document or news story can be said to argue a point, and landfills can be said to be prohibited from accepting leaves, brush, and grass clippings in certain states, to name just a few. This sort of anthropomorphizing is not uncommon in the language. I cannot point you to a list of items to memorize, but even if I could, I would tell you not to bother. Such usage is more contextual anyway. (Just about any item, for instance, could be said to haunt somebody if that person had a bad memory associated with it. The list would be endless.) Why memorize a list of nouns that could be anthropomorphized when the topic is hardly ever tested? There are more important, more frequently tested concepts to study.

I have discussed answer choices (B) and (E) at length in an earlier post, here, as has Avi in the post just above it. If you have further questions after reading those posts, feel free to ask.

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Personally - i don't see how (B) is referring to the number of contributions as you mention above in the yellow highlight.

(B) seems to me to be clear enough and the comparison in (B) seems appropriate.

So, what’s your interpretation of “usual amount of contributions given by large companies,” jabhatta2?

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Hi avigutman - On the yellow phrase above - i have added the modifier - "usual" as the adjective is important to understand the phrase

My interpretation of the phrase above in yellow is there is a specific amount (Say 5 million dollars) that is the "usual amount"

So the phrase can be re-written as " “usual 5 million USD of contributions given by large companies,”

So the core of B becomes

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Contributions were a substantial departure from the usual 5 million dollars (=usual amount) of contributions (=those) given by large companies

Usual contributions were 5 million USD (can be any number)

Contributions this year WERE NOT COMPARABLE to 5 million USD
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My interpretation of the phrase above in yellow is there is a specific amount (Say 5 million dollars) that is the "usual amount"

So the phrase can be re-written as " “usual 5 million USD of contributions given by large companies,”

So the core of B becomes

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Contributions were a substantial departure from the usual 5 million dollars (=usual amount) of contributions (=those) given by large companies

Usual contributions were 5 million USD (can be any number)

Contributions this year WERE NOT COMPARABLE to 5 million USD
Do these both seem good and reasonable to you, jabhatta2?
(1) the usual price of $5.
(2) the usual $5 of price.

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Do these both seem good and reasonable to you, jabhatta2?
(1) the usual price of $5. [ Per JD - Analogous to E]
(2) the usual $5 of price. [Per JD - Analogous to B]

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Hi Avi - between the two choices above - (1) is better

While (1) is BETTER OFF compared to (2) -- that's only because "price" has been replaced with the word "Contribution"

If I replace the word "price" with the word "Contribution" as in the problem -- (1) and (2) are the same IMO...too subtle for the purposes of the GMAT surely

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(1) the usual contribution of $5. [ Per JD - Analogous to E]
(2) the usual $5 of contribution. [Per JD - Analogous to B]
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Do these both seem good and reasonable to you, jabhatta2?
(1) the usual price of $5. [ Per JD - Analogous to E]
(2) the usual $5 of price. [Per JD - Analogous to B]

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Hi Avi - between the two choices above - (1) is better

While (1) is BETTER OFF compared to (2) -- that's only because "price" has been replaced with the word "Contribution"

If I replace the word "price" with the word "Contribution" as in the problem -- (1) and (2) are the same IMO...too subtle for the purposes of the GMAT surely

In my opinion, jabhatta2, there's no difference, nor should there be, between "price" and "contribution." I dislike the second option equally whether we insert "price" or "contribution."

Edited to add, jabhatta2: I cannot think of any case in which the order doesn't matter in: noun of noun. Can you?
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I would love to know your approach when deciding between B and E
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I would love to know your approach when deciding between B and E

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Option B appears to be grammatically correct; it is simply far wordier and less direct than E.

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I would love to know your approach when deciding between B and E

B has a few issues that stick out to me.

The first is the comparison. B's structure is something like:

"Few of the contributions were a departure from the amount of those given by companies..."

What is those? It would have to be 'contributions.' So the structure is:

"Few of the contributions were a departure from the amount of contributions given by companies..."

So it seems like one valid interpretation is that we are comparing a few contributions to an amount of contributions (as if I'm counting up the contributions... and even doing *that* wrong, as it would be a 'number' of contributions).

I know what is trying to be said in B. [The amount of money given] in most contributions here is about the same as [the amount of money given] in other contributions given by company. But 'amount of those [contributions]' doesn't quite literally read as 'amount of MONEY given in those other contributions].'

Basically, 'amount contributed' and 'amount of contributions' are different thing.

Secondly, it seems weird (but perhaps not wrong) to say 'The contributions *were a departure* from...' Google shows me that respectable sources (e.g. the New York Times) do use this kind of structure, but in my GMAT mind it seems strange to say the contributions WERE a departure. I feel very iffy about this one though.
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Few of the corporate contributions to the earthquake relief fund, aside from Pterocom, were a sigificant difference from the usual amounts given by large companies for major international disasters.

a) aside from Pterocom, were a significant difference from the usual amounts
Wrong. Compared to E ==> A is not as good as E ==> A is wrong. Please see my note below.

b) Pterocom's expected, were a substantial departure from the usual amount of those
Wrong. "those" is incorrect because of "by large companies" in the non-underlined part.

c) Pterocom expected, broke the usual mold of those
Wrong. Sam error as in A. "those" is redundant and is wrong.

d) notwithstanding Pterocom, veered much from the usual levels
Wrong. "notwithstanding Ptercom" changes meaning.

e) apart from Pterocom's, departed signficantly from the usual amounts
Correct. Verb form (depart from) is better than Noun form (a difference from) --> E is correct.

Please note the order V-A-N in GMAT: Verb >> Adjective >> noun.
Verb form is always concise and conveys better meaning than adj and noun forms.

Hope it helps.

why is "those" in C) wrong? I think it refers to "amounts"
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Few of the corporate contributions to the earthquake relief fund, aside from Pterocom, were a sigificant difference from the usual amounts given by large companies for major international disasters.

a) aside from Pterocom, were a significant difference from the usual amounts
Wrong. Compared to E ==> A is not as good as E ==> A is wrong. Please see my note below.

b) Pterocom's expected, were a substantial departure from the usual amount of those
Wrong. "those" is incorrect because of "by large companies" in the non-underlined part.

c) Pterocom expected, broke the usual mold of those
Wrong. Sam error as in A. "those" is redundant and is wrong.

d) notwithstanding Pterocom, veered much from the usual levels
Wrong. "notwithstanding Ptercom" changes meaning.

e) apart from Pterocom's, departed signficantly from the usual amounts
Correct. Verb form (depart from) is better than Noun form (a difference from) --> E is correct.

Please note the order V-A-N in GMAT: Verb >> Adjective >> noun.
Verb form is always concise and conveys better meaning than adj and noun forms.

Hope it helps.

why is "those" in C) wrong? I think it refers to "amounts"

Hello Schachfreizeit,

We hope this finds you well.

To answer your query, the sentence formed by Option C does not actually have the word "amounts" in it.

We hope this helps.
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Few of the corporate contributions to the earthquake relief fund, aside from Pterocom, were a sigificant difference from the usual amounts given by large companies for major international disasters.

a) aside from Pterocom, were a significant difference from the usual amounts
b) Pterocom's expected, were a substantial departure from the usual amount of those
c) Pterocom expected, broke the usual mold of those
d) notwithstanding Pterocom, veered much from the usual levels
e) apart from Pterocom's, departed signficantly from the usual amounts


Structure-

"few of the contributions", "aside from Pterocom"

Sentence compares Contributions to Pterocom

Wrong comparison!

All options except E can be eliminate for this reason.


a) aside from Pterocom, were a significant difference from the usual amounts

"Contributions were a difference" is wrong. Contributions were not a difference on their own.



b) Pterocom's expected, were a substantial departure from the usual amount of those

"expected" is a verb.
for example-
No one expected him to be late.
They expected results.

Here it's seems to have been used as a noun. Comparison between "contributions" and "expected" is nonsensical. Also, "Pterocom's expected" is ungrammatical.

"those" seems to refer to "contributions". Amount of contributions- redundant



c) Pterocom expected, broke the usual mold of those

Here "expected" is used as a verb.

"noun" can't be compared with a clause. Also, expected doesn't make any sense in the context.



d) notwithstanding Pterocom, veered much from the usual levels

"notwithstanding" means "regardless of".

"Contributions regardless of Ptrerocom" is imprecise.



e) apart from Pterocom's, departed signficantly from the usual amounts

Contributions - apart from - Pterrocom's (contributions)

Correct!!!

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Hi CrackVerbal!

The options B and C do not use expected, they use excepted.
I think there was an error in the question when you posted the reply.
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