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Gladiator59 SajjadAhmad GMATNinja generis

Please post the descriptive answer for Q-6. I marked E as it was better than others. However, I see that C is correct

My take on Q-6

Quote:
6. By stating “even as we are conscious of our victory, we feel that we are, in a strange way, losing” the author means that

Quote:

My Understanding:-
The quoted line highlights that at some places again the communist parties are winning. And at other places, some political parties are making ill comments about their adversaries.


Quote:
(A) some of the old governments are still unwilling to grant freedom at the individual level.
No talk about old governments in the last passage. Incorrect

Quote:
(B) some of the new governments are not strong enough to exist as a single federation.
This is nowhere inferred.We are not doubting the capability of the new governments.

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(C) some of the new democratic governments are electing to retain the old political parties.
They are not electing to retain the old political parties , but are trying to copy the approach of communism. This is why I rejected C.

Quote:
(D) no new parties have been created to fill the vacuum created by the victory of freedom.
This is nowhere inferred.Incorrect

Quote:
(E) some of the new governments are reverting to communism.
We can say this as new governments approach seems as if they want to stick to the communism.

IMO E should be the answer.

Please help.
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Question # 6
By stating “even as we are conscious of our victory, we feel that we are, in a strange way, losing” the author means that

Explanation

By stating “even as we are conscious of our victory, we feel that we are, in a strange way, losing” the author means that. This is a hybrid extension and description question. Because it refers to a specific point in the passage, you must read a few sentences before and after it. The answer can be found in THE PASSAGE

The answer is (C).

Hope it helps


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Gladiator59 SajjadAhmad GMATNinja generis

Please post the descriptive answer for Q-6. I marked E as it was better than others. However, I see that C is correct

My take on Q-6

Quote:
6. By stating “even as we are conscious of our victory, we feel that we are, in a strange way, losing” the author means that

Quote:

My Understanding:-
The quoted line highlights that at some places again the communist parties are winning. And at other places, some political parties are making ill comments about their adversaries.


Quote:
(A) some of the old governments are still unwilling to grant freedom at the individual level.
No talk about old governments in the last passage. Incorrect

Quote:
(B) some of the new governments are not strong enough to exist as a single federation.
This is nowhere inferred.We are not doubting the capability of the new governments.

Quote:
(C) some of the new democratic governments are electing to retain the old political parties.
They are not electing to retain the old political parties , but are trying to copy the approach of communism. This is why I rejected C.

Quote:
(D) no new parties have been created to fill the vacuum created by the victory of freedom.
This is nowhere inferred.Incorrect

Quote:
(E) some of the new governments are reverting to communism.
We can say this as new governments approach seems as if they want to stick to the communism.

IMO E should be the answer.

Please help.
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Question # 6
By stating “even as we are conscious of our victory, we feel that we are, in a strange way, losing” the author means that

Explanation

By stating “even as we are conscious of our victory, we feel that we are, in a strange way, losing” the author means that. This is a hybrid extension and description question. Because it refers to a specific point in the passage, you must read a few sentences before and after it. The answer can be found in THE PASSAGE

The answer is (C).

Hope it helps


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Gladiator59 SajjadAhmad GMATNinja generis

Please post the descriptive answer for Q-6. I marked E as it was better than others. However, I see that C is correct

My take on Q-6

Quote:
6. By stating “even as we are conscious of our victory, we feel that we are, in a strange way, losing” the author means that

Quote:

My Understanding:-
The quoted line highlights that at some places again the communist parties are winning. And at other places, some political parties are making ill comments about their adversaries.


Quote:
(A) some of the old governments are still unwilling to grant freedom at the individual level.
No talk about old governments in the last passage. Incorrect

Quote:
(B) some of the new governments are not strong enough to exist as a single federation.
This is nowhere inferred.We are not doubting the capability of the new governments.

Quote:
(C) some of the new democratic governments are electing to retain the old political parties.
They are not electing to retain the old political parties , but are trying to copy the approach of communism. This is why I rejected C.

Quote:
(D) no new parties have been created to fill the vacuum created by the victory of freedom.
This is nowhere inferred.Incorrect

Quote:
(E) some of the new governments are reverting to communism.
We can say this as new governments approach seems as if they want to stick to the communism.

IMO E should be the answer.

Please help.

I actually read this before posting. What is the source??Can you post the explanation from that source??
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When i wrote "Official Explanation" i basically posts from that particular source from which i have taken the question. This question was taken from Nova GMAT and explanation also belongs to Nova GMAT.
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generis - with every answer you write, my respect and affection towards your posts climb greater height. Did that rhyme? Had to trade off a few grammar rules to make it so I hope it does. :-)

Thanks for that detailed post!
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Question # 6
By stating “even as we are conscious of our victory, we feel that we are, in a strange way, losing” the author means that

Explanation

By stating “even as we are conscious of our victory, we feel that we are, in a strange way, losing” the author means that. This is a hybrid extension and description question. Because it refers to a specific point in the passage, you must read a few sentences before and after it. The answer can be found in THE PASSAGE

The answer is (C).

Hope it helps


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Gladiator59 SajjadAhmad GMATNinja generis

Please post the descriptive answer for Q-6. I marked E as it was better than others. However, I see that C is correct

My take on Q-6

Quote:
6. By stating “even as we are conscious of our victory, we feel that we are, in a strange way, losing” the author means that

Quote:

My Understanding:-
The quoted line highlights that at some places again the communist parties are winning. And at other places, some political parties are making ill comments about their adversaries.


Quote:
(A) some of the old governments are still unwilling to grant freedom at the individual level.
No talk about old governments in the last passage. Incorrect

Quote:
(B) some of the new governments are not strong enough to exist as a single federation.
This is nowhere inferred.We are not doubting the capability of the new governments.

Quote:
(C) some of the new democratic governments are electing to retain the old political parties.
They are not electing to retain the old political parties , but are trying to copy the approach of communism. This is why I rejected C.

Quote:
(D) no new parties have been created to fill the vacuum created by the victory of freedom.
This is nowhere inferred.Incorrect

Quote:
(E) some of the new governments are reverting to communism.
We can say this as new governments approach seems as if they want to stick to the communism.

IMO E should be the answer.

Please help.

No, it does not. The explanation provided here is very vague and superficial. Q6 is inference question and most of the takers falter in inference questions only. Please provide a detailed explanation with the reason of eliminating E
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No, it does not. The explanation provided here is very vague and superficial. Q6 is inference question and most of the takers falter in inference questions only. Please provide a detailed explanation with the reason of eliminating E
Cbirole , this question has no satisfactory answer.

I understand that your post is not directed at me, but if my post above is not a "detailed explanation"
that contains the "reason for eliminating E," I am not sure what to think.

If you read my post, I concluded that we must infer
that C is the answer from the words that follow the sentence at issue.

I explained why.

In that post, here, is there something in particular that you do not understand? Or with which you have a specific issue?

Would you please be specific about any question that you may have?
I cannot figure out what you are asking simply by looking at re-quoted material.
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In fact, we thought that the march from a planned economy to a market economy would take place within the framework of the bureaucratic system, and that the market within the Communist state would explode the totalitarian structures.



1. The author originally thought that the order of events in the transformation of communist society would be represented by which one of the following?

(A) A great political shock would break the totalitarian monopoly, leaving in its wake a civil society whose task would be to change the state-controlled market into a free economy. [INCORRECT]
(B) The transformation of the economy would destroy totalitarianism, after which a new and different social and political structure would be born. [HOLD this option]
(C) First the people would freely elect political representatives who would transform the economy, which would then undermine the totalitarian structure. [Not Mentioned anywhere]
(D) The change to a democratic state would necessarily undermine totalitarianism, after which a new economic order would be created. [INCORRECT]
(E) The people’s frustration would build until it spontaneously generated violent revolution, which would sentence society to years of anarchy and regression. [Extreme option, not mentioned anywhere]
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Hi, can someone help me understand Q) 4 and Q) 5 (i) "negotiating the empty space"?
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Hi, can someone help me understand Q) 4 and Q) 5 (i) "negotiating the empty space"?

Hello Varun

I assumes you didn't read generis earlier response here in below link

https://gmatclub.com/forum/from-romania ... l#p2220561


My response in below link

https://gmatclub.com/forum/from-romania ... l#p2220331

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what is the source of this passage?
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what is the source of this passage?

Its Nova's GMAT

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Could you please explain why Option A is wrong for Question 4?
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Could you please explain why Option A is wrong for Question 4?

Kindly read my response in below link

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Can sb help me with Q4, its really hard to understand…..

As I know this is an application question


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This is an application question. These are like extension questions, but they go well beyond what is stated in the passage. In this case we are asked to interpret the author’s comments from a cynic’s perspective. Because application questions go well beyond the passage, they are often difficult, as is this one.
Hint
A cynic looks at reality from a negative perspective, usually with a sense of dark irony and hopelessness. Don’t make the mistake of choosing (E). Although a cynic is likely to make such a statement, it does not address the subject of the passage—political and economic systems. The passage is not about human nature, at least not directly.
Thanks SajjadAhmad

However, how can we…..

Yet, even as we are conscious of our victory, we feel that we are, in a strange way, losing. In Bulgaria the Communists have won the parliamentary elections and will govern the country, without losing their social legitimacy. In Romania the National Salvation Front, largely dominated by people from the old Communist bureaucracy, has won. In other countries democratic institutions seem shaky, and the political horizon is cloudy. The masquerade goes on: dozens of groups and parties are created, each announces similar slogans, each accuses its adversaries of all possible sins, and each declares itself representative of the national interest. Personal disputes are more important than disputes over values. Arguments over values are fiercer than arguments over ideas.

How can we infer from this “end of the paragraph” that it’s a fair description of many democratic political systems???

Why cannot (A)&(E) be the correct answer???



For (A),we can see traces from


In Bulgaria the Communists have won the parliamentary elections and will govern the country, without losing their social legitimacy. In Romania the National Salvation Front, largely dominated by people from the old Communist bureaucracy, has won.

the society is still in the throws of (suffer from/challenge with)the old totalitarian(communist) structure.


For (E),we can see traces from


each accuses its adversaries of all possible sins, and each declares itself representative of the national interest. Personal disputes are more important than disputes over values. Arguments over values are fiercer than arguments over ideas.

suggest implicitly that its about “baseness of people”


Or maybe the tone isn’t cynical enough to be the correct answer???

“A cynic does not address the subject of the passage—political and economic systems.”
…..so what will a cynic address to???
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3. From the passage, a reader could conclude that which one of the following best describes the author’s attitude toward the events that have taken place in communist society?

(A) Relieved that at last the democratic order has surfaced.
(B) Clearly wants to return to the old order….incorrect
(C) Disappointed with the nature of the democracy that has emerged……correct
(D) Confident that a free economy will ultimately provide the basis for a true democracy.
(E) Surprised that communism was toppled through political rather than economic means.

For Q3,its plausible that (C) be the correct answer, since we can see traces from the first sentence of para3 ”The opposite happened” which means that the ideal democratic system in fact doesn’t exist and we can infer from those words the author show in the passage that the author is indeed“disappointed with the nature of the democracy”


But about (B),why it cannot be the correct answer??? “communist society clearly wants to return to the old order”
I choose this option at first, and then found it to be the wrong answer…

I try to write down my thinking as below


in para2we have freedom, but we still have not achieved the democratic order.(is still in progress to democratic order, so we can infer that they’re still in the old order)

in para3,the author states that
the democratic system is, in fact, losing.In Bulgaria the Communists have won the parliamentary elections and will govern the country, without losing their social legitimacy. In Romania the National Salvation Front, largely dominated by people from the old Communist bureaucracy, has won.
hence from this, doesn’t the author’s attitude is toward communist party rather than democratic, so the author’s attitude clearly wants to return to old order(communism) ?????
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Can sb tell me why II& III is correct??

About “mistaking the order”, is it that in para2, the author said
its better for democratic show precedence over freedom, and then in the beginning of the para3 mention “the opposite happened” immediatelyso the order get mistaken???

for III, we can see the sentences from the end of para4--- and each declares itself representative of the national interest, however, how can we simply from this sentence to declare that it is a difficulty involved in creating a new democratic order in eastern Europe????
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