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Gmat club tests vs MGMT tests? - QUANT [#permalink] New post   09 Oct 2014, 01:50
Hello

I just took my 1st gmatprep # 1 (free mock) and scored a dismal 600 (Q42, V30) :(

I have been reading a lot about the Gmatclub tests & Manhattan Tests (this is what high scorers typically practice before they nail the exam).

I just have 1 month to go for the actual exam! How can I increase my Quant ? Atleast Q 47/48

Is it sufficient if I use OG 13, OG 2nd edition, Question Pack 1 & Exam Pack 1? If I want to be more confident and comfortable with Quant - which one should I buy between MGMT & Gmatclub tests. Which tests are at par with the actual Gmat.

Your inputs will be highly appreciated

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Gmat club tests vs MGMT tests? - QUANT [#permalink] New post   09 Oct 2014, 08:06
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Buddyisrael wrote:
Hello

I just took my 1st gmatprep # 1 (free mock) and scored a dismal 600 (Q42, V30) :(

I have been reading a lot about the Gmatclub tests & Manhattan Tests (this is what high scorers typically practice before they nail the exam).

I just have 1 month to go for the actual exam! How can I increase my Quant ? Atleast Q 47/48

Is it sufficient if I use OG 13, OG 2nd edition, Question Pack 1 & Exam Pack 1? If I want to be more confident and comfortable with Quant - which one should I buy between MGMT & Gmatclub tests. Which tests are at par with the actual Gmat.

Your inputs will be highly appreciated

Thanks & Regards
Buddy


Hi Buddyisrael :)

First of all cheer up bud ! :) GMAT is no low hanging fruit which can be grabbed easily . So no looking back at 600 . Your score is near about 60 percentile . I reckon there is always a second time! I presume that it was just a bad day for you . Maybe if you give the paper next time you can perhaps score much better .

I know that feeling of scoring low in GMAT , although I am not a very high scorer in GMAT , all I can say is do not lose hope . There is plenty of space for improvement . Even I aim at scoring 700+ in GMAT . I would like to quote a famous saying of legendary Thomas A. Edison -

"Our greatest weakness lies in giving up. The most certain way to succeed is always to try just one more time."

I think GMAT Club Tests are the best in market followed by Manhattan

If you plan to give GMAT Test next time try MOCK tests of :- ( I have also ranked them with gmat club test at the top )

1.GMAT Club ( BEST )
2.Manhattan Tests
3.Kaplan Tests
4.GMAT Prep Test provided by mba.com
5.Princeton

Secondly , The books you have mentioned above are pretty good apart from OG 13 which is the MUST for every gmat aspirant without a second thought . Having said that I would like to articulate that they are not sufficient . However there’s a lot of advice that conflicts from book to book and person to person , so it takes a little while to figure out what’s true and what’s not. So I leave to your fine wisdom . In sum , the OG 13th edition is a MUST HAVE and regarding OG 2nd edition, Question Pack 1 & Exam Pack there is no harm in having them to say the least .

I might be going out of context , but as someone who is preparing for GMAT and who has 600 score , I would advise you to take some more time to prepare . I would like to share how I prepare , which books I refer to etc

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6 months atleast ( with 100 % of dedication )

Books Used:
OG 13th edition Book , Quantitavie Review , Verbal Review , 700-800 Question Set on GMAT club forum .
Maintain Error Log
Download the Excel Sheet of Question of OG 13 . This helps . Trust me!
Manhattan GMAT SC , RC , CR Books . Fab Books .
Kaplan Premier Book .
2 CATs and questions from mba.com
CATs from Manhattan GMAT , Kaplan GMAT , Princeton Review GMAT , GMAT Club Tests atleast 28-36 Full Length Tests . ( Though sounds heavy , yet its my way of looking at GMAT since I am a non native speaker and a slow learner .
Free Videos and articles on Youtube, GMAT PrepNow, etc.
Follow GMAT Club Forum

Studying:
Usually 6-9 hours on weekdays . MUST!
Usually 10-12 hours on Saturdays and Sundays. Usually 1 CAT on the weekend with review (weekend usually included going back to redo old questions, even questions I got right before) MUST!

Advice:
1) The books were pretty good, but there’s a lot of advice that conflicts from book to book, so it takes a little while to figure out what’s true and what’s not. The OG 13th edition is a MUST HAVE.
2) Find an expert to work with. Use a course or a tutor.
3) There’s a lot of bad advice out there about pacing, representative questions, etc. (and the problem is a lot of it’s free). Be suspicious. If you practice something for a full month and it doesn’t work, then it’s not going to help you hit your goal. Be prepared to learn some new things.
4) Stay calm and write everything down. GMAT questions are actually pretty straight forward if you just stay organized.
5) The Quant section is NOT a math test and the Verbal section is NOT a vocabulary test, so don’t treat them like they are.
6) Learn which questions to avoid.
6) Take the breaks, no matter how good you feel. Have a snack, a drink and run to the bathroom.

All the best bud! :) :)

Yours Sincerely

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Re: Gmat club tests vs MGMT tests? - QUANT [#permalink] New post   09 Oct 2014, 19:02
When I took my first Manhattan test, I scored something like a 600 too, and that was untimed. I seriously considered not applying to bschool because I was so off the mark.
Three months later, I took my first GMAT Prep test. The quant questions were so much easier, and I scored a 740. That was much closer to my first real score of a 720.

The Manhattan prep materials are excellent, and I wouldn't ever recommend anything else. But the tests are whack. They're a horrible evaluator of how you'll actually do. I wish more people knew that.
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Re: Gmat club tests vs MGMT tests? - QUANT [#permalink] New post   09 Oct 2014, 21:20
Thanks guys. After much consideration , feedback and personally trying the free tests of both GClub & MGMT, I have decided to go with MGMT for improving my Quant.

I really liked the explanation provided by MGMT vis-a-vis GClub tests. Moreover, I have observed (from 30 samples of people who have taken MGMT) that their final Quant score in the Actual Exam is ~ 3 points higher than the Average of their last 3 MGMT tests. Even Verbal seems to be at par - but their are couple of conflicting points I have observed w.r.t MGMT Verbal.

Gclub tests - They have good number of tough & tricky questions but I was not comfortable with their explanations.

So for Quant - I am going to use MGMT tests to sharpen my skills
And for Verbal - I am going to stick to E-Gmat and OFFICIAL Questions only. I will buy the Question pack 1 & Exam pack 1.

Best Regards
Buddy
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Re: Gmat club tests vs MGMT tests? - QUANT [#permalink] New post   09 Oct 2014, 21:45
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Buddyisrael wrote:
Thanks guys. After much consideration , feedback and personally trying the free tests of both GClub & MGMT, I have decided to go with MGMT for improving my Quant.

I really liked the explanation provided by MGMT vis-a-vis GClub tests. Moreover, I have observed (from 30 samples of people who have taken MGMT) that their final Quant score in the Actual Exam is ~ 3 points higher than the Average of their last 3 MGMT tests. Even Verbal seems to be at par - but their are couple of conflicting points I have observed w.r.t MGMT Verbal.

Gclub tests - They have good number of tough & tricky questions but I was not comfortable with their explanations.

So for Quant - I am going to use MGMT tests to sharpen my skills
And for Verbal - I am going to stick to E-Gmat and OFFICIAL Questions only. I will buy the Question pack 1 & Exam pack 1.

Best Regards
Buddy



Hi Buddy,

Increasing score from M42 to M 47/48 is possible provided your concepts are clear,you are not making many silly mistakes and you are in control of the exam (Time Management). Apart from this I am sure your would have gone through some useful links on Gmatclub..
timing-strategies-on-the-gmat-80176.html
how-to-review-and-analyze-your-mistakes-167118.html
gmat-prep-software-analysis-and-what-if-scenarios-146146.html

Attempting 1000 + Questions will not help much if you are not reviewing the problems..

Yes,some of the explanations may not be enough but here is thing..you can post your query on relevant question thread for that question and look at alternate solutions, check whether your query has already been answered before.

MGMAT quant set is good resource and do keep in mind time management and reviewing are the 2 most important aspects of the preparation.One thing that I will definitely recommend is to follow Bunuel and Veritasprep Karishma on Gmatclub...

For Verbal: You have got the best so absolutely no worries there !!

Good Luck!!
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Re: Gmat club tests vs MGMT tests? - QUANT [#permalink] New post   09 Oct 2014, 22:42
Thanks for your advice. Highly appreciated!

I diligently review my error log - its all about fundamentals. Im getting back to books after almost 7 years. :)
Honestly when I solve problems - I have realized I don't make silly / calculations mistakes ( ~90% of the time) - If I cant solve a question its because my concepts are not clear! Hence I'm working on it.

Yes I have gone through those sites you have mentioned. The Software analysis done by Bunuel is brilliant - sincere thanks to him!

Im sure I'll improve in a months time.

Best Regards,
Buddy




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Buddyisrael wrote:
Thanks guys. After much consideration , feedback and personally trying the free tests of both GClub & MGMT, I have decided to go with MGMT for improving my Quant.

I really liked the explanation provided by MGMT vis-a-vis GClub tests. Moreover, I have observed (from 30 samples of people who have taken MGMT) that their final Quant score in the Actual Exam is ~ 3 points higher than the Average of their last 3 MGMT tests. Even Verbal seems to be at par - but their are couple of conflicting points I have observed w.r.t MGMT Verbal.

Gclub tests - They have good number of tough & tricky questions but I was not comfortable with their explanations.

So for Quant - I am going to use MGMT tests to sharpen my skills
And for Verbal - I am going to stick to E-Gmat and OFFICIAL Questions only. I will buy the Question pack 1 & Exam pack 1.

Best Regards
Buddy



Hi Buddy,

Increasing score from M42 to M 47/48 is possible provided your concepts are clear,you are not making many silly mistakes and you are in control of the exam (Time Management). Apart from this I am sure your would have gone through some useful links on Gmatclub..
timing-strategies-on-the-gmat-80176.html
how-to-review-and-analyze-your-mistakes-167118.html
gmat-prep-software-analysis-and-what-if-scenarios-146146.html

Attempting 1000 + Questions will not help much if you are not reviewing the problems..

Yes,some of the explanations may not be enough but here is thing..you can post your query on relevant question thread for that question and look at alternate solutions, check whether your query has already been answered before.

MGMAT quant set is good resource and do keep in mind time management and reviewing are the 2 most important aspects of the preparation.One thing that I will definitely recommend is to follow Bunuel and Veritasprep Karishma on Gmatclub...

For Verbal: You have got the best so absolutely no worries there !!

Good Luck!!
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Re: Gmat club tests vs MGMT tests? - QUANT [#permalink] New post   10 Oct 2014, 03:20
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Buddyisrael wrote:
Thanks guys. After much consideration , feedback and personally trying the free tests of both GClub & MGMT, I have decided to go with MGMT for improving my Quant.

I really liked the explanation provided by MGMT vis-a-vis GClub tests. Moreover, I have observed (from 30 samples of people who have taken MGMT) that their final Quant score in the Actual Exam is ~ 3 points higher than the Average of their last 3 MGMT tests. Even Verbal seems to be at par - but their are couple of conflicting points I have observed w.r.t MGMT Verbal.

Gclub tests - They have good number of tough & tricky questions but I was not comfortable with their explanations.

So for Quant - I am going to use MGMT tests to sharpen my skills
And for Verbal - I am going to stick to E-Gmat and OFFICIAL Questions only. I will buy the Question pack 1 & Exam pack 1.

Best Regards
Buddy


Hi Buddyisrael :)

No Problems . You're welcome . All the Best with MGMAT Tests . E-gmat is brilliant too .

Kindly give kudos to my post if it helped :wink:

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