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I think you can totally ace the GRE. The GRE math is easier and usually that helps those who are better with logic and reading. What was your raw score for quantitative and verbal on your diagnostic first GMAT attempt?

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As suspected :-) the GRE is not adaptive in the same way as GMAT. The math sections or meaningfully easier. I would try a GRE diagnostic and see what you can get.You may be surprised. Hopefully pleasantly surprised.

PS. V48 is a wicked crazy good score. If you don’t mind working on your math a bit and getting back into college or high school shape, you can walk away with an amazing GMAT score.

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carcass, Do you know how to calculate the overall GRE score based on the number of correct answers?

Sorry I’m a bit rusty with the GRE. Too much to keep track of in my small brain :-)

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carcass, Do you know how to calculate the overall GRE score based on the number of correct answers?

Sorry I’m a bit rusty with the GRE. Too much to keep track of in my small brain :-)

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Yeah that would be great! We have no ideas how the scores are based on your performance? It’s section adaptive right?

It’s very confusing lol
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I will let our resident GRE expert carcass comment on it so I don’t spread misinformation because just like you, I think it is confusing.

I guess this is a choice between improving your math skills or studying vocabulary. Frankly, getting a math up would be a more practical and mature thing to do :-) you can use math and a lot of applications and you will need it during business school and afterwards and you don’t want to be embarrassed in front of you second and third grader kids. This could be a fun challenge.... As long as you don’t hate math. There’s very little you’ll be able to accomplish productively if you hate it. I guess to a large extent you have to work on math for Jerry as well, just not as much.

PS. By the way, my understanding is that having a law degree does give you a slight edge in recruiting. What is your goal for the MBA? Are you trying to get into consulting? Tech? RE?

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I will let our resident GRE expert carcass comment on it so I don’t spread misinformation because just like you, I think it is confusing.

I guess this is a choice between improving your math skills or studying vocabulary. Frankly, getting a math up would be a more practical and mature thing to do :-) you can use math and a lot of applications and you will need it during business school and afterwards and you don’t want to be embarrassed in front of you second and third grader kids. This could be a fun challenge.... As long as you don’t hate math. There’s very little you’ll be able to accomplish productively if you hate it. I guess to a large extent you have to work on math for Jerry as well, just not as much.

PS. By the way, my understanding is that having a live degree does give you a slight edge in recruiting. What is your goal for the MBA? Are you trying to get into consulting? Tech? RE?

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I definitely don’t hate math and got high 90s when I took statistics and finite math in first year of my undergrad. I just haven’t really done much since (so I’d have to brush up on algebra, etc). I think it’s learnable, but I’m wondering if the GRE will play on my strengths a bit more. That being said, I agree with you that refreshing my math skills may help in business school as well.

I’d be looking to get out of practicing law and maybe do something in strategy consulting. I have a business undergrad degree, but was hoping an MBA would give me more of an edge.
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carcass, Do you know how to calculate the overall GRE score based on the number of correct answers?

Sorry I’m a bit rusty with the GRE. Too much to keep track of in my small brain :-)

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Here my in-depth analysis of HOW is the GRE scores calculated and HOW you have to analyze it for improvements

https://greprepclub.com/forum/a-gre-sco ... 15097.html

Basically the first section, either quant and verbal, is always in a medium range. The questions are 2.8 to 3.5 level of difficulty.

The GRE test is based on how many right questions you pick; the number, of course, is strictly tightened to the level of difficulty: tougher, the more wrong you could pick. However, per se the difficulty of a question does not count. Count only the NUMBER you pick right.

Then the second section, quant and verbal, will be easy or medium or hard based on the number you got in the first section.

Turns out , it is an easy calculation

Suppose in the first section you have 15 questions correct. The second section will be hard and you get another 15 questions correct.

130+15=145+15= 160 PLUS a bonus of 2 or 3 points, this depends on the algorithm; you will end up with a score of 162 or 163.

Suppose in the first section you have 6 questions correct. The second section will be easy and you get another 8 questions correct.

130+6=136+8=144 MINUS 3 or 4 points of penalty 141 or 140

Remember also that the tougher GRE questions are roughly a 720 GMAT level (in the GRE scale they are labeled as 5, the most difficult level). As such, nailing the GRE exam is not that simple. Moreover, my in-depth analysis of the official software Powerprep PLUS 3, you could buy it on the official ETS store, indicates that the level in the real exam is random.

That means a student could pick a test similar to the powerprep free software OR a test harder. Turns out, the GRE became lately harder. We cannot assess this with laser-focus attention, though.

Hope this helps bb
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Hi SpecterH,

A 640 is a fantastic initial CAT score (the average score on the Official GMAT hovers around 550 most years). When combined with your prior LSAT work, you're likely a really strong critical thinker already - which is good. Many Programs accept both the GMAT and the GRE as part of the application process, so before choosing which Exam to study for, you should put together a list of the Schools that you plan to apply to and confirm that they each accept both Exams.

While the two Exams have a number of aspects in common, you would likely find the GRE to be easier overall (the Quant section is notably easier than the Quant section on the GMAT, but the Verbal section of the GRE places a much greater emphasis on your vocabulary knowledge and knowing when to use certain words instead of others).

Before I can offer you any additional advice for your studies, it would help if you could provide a bit more information on your timeline and your goals:

1) When are you planning to apply to Business School?
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Hi SpecterH,

A 640 is a fantastic initial CAT score (the average score on the Official GMAT hovers around 550 most years). When combined with your prior LSAT work, you're likely a really strong critical thinker already - which is good. Many Programs accept both the GMAT and the GRE as part of the application process, so before choosing which Exam to study for, you should put together a list of the Schools that you plan to apply to and confirm that they each accept both Exams.

While the two Exams have a number of aspects in common, you would likely find the GRE to be easier overall (the Quant section is notably easier than the Quant section on the GMAT, but the Verbal section of the GRE places a much greater emphasis on your vocabulary knowledge and knowing when to use certain words instead of others).

Before I can offer you any additional advice for your studies, it would help if you could provide a bit more information on your timeline and your goals:

1) When are you planning to apply to Business School?
2) What Schools are you planning to apply to?
3) Going forward, how many hours do you think you can consistently study each week?

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I could not disagree more :)

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Hi SpecterH,

640 is a great start! Regarding the GRE diagnostic, did you take an official ETS practice exam? If not, perhaps it would be helpful to take one, so you can get an actual quant and verbal score. Would you be able to do so? Lastly, you may find it helpful to read this article:

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As suspected :-) the GRE is not adaptive in the same way as GMAT. The math sections or meaningfully easier. I would try a GRE diagnostic and see what you can get.You may be surprised. Hopefully pleasantly surprised.

PS. V48 is a wicked crazy good score. If you don’t mind working on your math a bit and getting back into college or high school shape, you can walk away with an amazing GMAT score.

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Hi Spector, was a lawyer too with a similar lsat score to you. Got a pretty high gmat score and now finishing up an mba at ross. I agree with BB's PS note. You should stick with the gmat, rely on lsat/legal chops to dominate the verbal section, and practice quant to boost that. Quant is very hackable by learning/memorizing rules (geometry, etc) and then just practicing heavy. If you get your quant score into the 40s, you will have a very high overall score bc of the verbal impact skew.
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