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New post 11 Feb 2011, 05:04
Hello Paul

I gave my GMAT last year and got a 640 (Q47, V31, 5.0). Although I was planning to retake the exam but due to some unavoidable circumstances I could not. I then took a chance and applied to 3 schools for their Round 2 deadline (LBS, Said and ISB). Needless to say got Dinged from all 3.

Now I plan to retake the GMAT in the next 2-3 months and will try to get a 700+ score. Am trying to figure out, that apart from GMAT what else could have been a negative in my application and what do I do to improve my chances next year. As these schools do not provide any feedback (apart from ISB and even there I have heard that the feedback is very generic) am not sure how to figure that out so thought of asking the Experts.

Given my post MBA goals and some personal reasons, I am more interested in doing my MBA from Europe or Asia but will apply to 1-2 US school as well. As of now, am thinking INSEAD, LBS, IMD (maybe depending on which round am ready for), ISB, Kellogg, Wharton, Fuqua (may be).

I have not yet thought of safety schools but given that next year will be my do-or-die year, I will add 1-2 safety school (recommendations are welcome).

My profile is:
Indian/Male/29 years
Undergrad: B.Tech in ECE from India (68%)

Masters: MS from US in Electrical Engineering (GPA: 3.72/4.0), Specialization was Satellite Communication, Worked as a Research Analyst and did a project for NASA (Masters Thesis topic as well), wrote and presented papers in conferences.

WE: 5+ years in Aerospace industry in US, designing GPS receivers for airplanes out of which around 3 years are of Technical Project Management. Have lead projects for major airplane manufacturers (Airbus, Boeing etc). No direct reportees but am responsible for projects (upto 10M $). Am also involved in bids and proposal work and have worked towards new business acquisition of approx 20-25M $ in sales (as a team member).

Post MBA goal Goal:
I want to get in Business development/marketing role in aerospace industry in europe/asia pacific. There is tremendous growth in Aerospace market in these regions.
On a longer term I want to grow in the Business Development role in these markets.

Extra Curr:
I have been working with the Diversity Employee network (Asian network) in a lead role (VP) and have organized cultural and business events. I also volunteer at events organized by the company/department, one specific case was helping out local community during the Iowa Floods of 2008.
During Graduation, I worked with the Indian Student Association. Also volunteered on and off with the university to help out local community, one specific case was the major Florida hurricane in 2004.

Thanks for all the help in advance.

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New post 14 Feb 2011, 10:20
Thanks for reaching out. You are right that your GMAT score killed you this last time around. Below 660 or 670 is just really hard to overcome. 670 to 690 is not ideal, but you can work with it. 700+ is the magic line, obviously.

As for what else might have been working against you, obviously, I would need to thoroughly review your applications and provide feedback. We do have a Ding Analysis service if you are interested in that. We also fold Ding Analysis into our comprehensive packages when we work with people who are taking another run at it, so if you were to work with me on your applications for the fall, we would naturally start with what happened this past cycle. My guess is that it is some combination of career goals not being articulated perfectly (it is so much harder than people think to get it "just" right), the key themes not being highlighted, and - most likely of all - school fit not being nailed. (Not just a list of activities or classes, but hitting the DNA of a program.) I guess these factors because they exist almost across the board. We see a stark contrast between the people we help and those who go at it alone (and even many of those who use other consultants, unfortunately) - applying to b school has becoming like running for public office. If you don't have a campaign manager, you just aren't going to fare very well in most cases.

So I would say the two biggest recommendations would be: 1) improve your GMAT score to 670, or 700 if possible, and 2) hire a vetted consultant who can take B or C applications to an A.

As for schools, I would add IESE, Cambridge, and Oxford to your list. We've had a ton of success at all three. Oxford in particular is a school that can allow you to outshine the competition if you understand what Said is all about.

Good luck. Email us at if we can be of any help.


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