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Instead of getting in jargons, the question can be resolved in a simpler manner. After the comma, ‘treatise’ is preferred because it is synonymous to ‘discourse’. So, we are left with C,D and E. Now in both C and D, you have 'advocate' instead of 'argue'. So, stick to the word used in the original sentence. Avoid changing the meaning which leaves us with one answer - E.
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In 1850 Lucretia Mott published her Discourse on Women, arguing in a treatise for
women to have equal political and legal rights
and for changes in the married women’s
property laws.

A. arguing in a treatise for women to have equal political and legal rights
B. arguing in a treatise for equal political and legal rights for women
C. a treatise that advocates women’s equal political and legal rights
D. a treatise advocating women’s equal political and legal rights
E. a treatise that argued for equal political and legal rights for women



I am more keen in understanding parallelism in C & E. A lot of ppl have said E is correct based on parallelism which I agree but I need some clarification on concept here.

In C, if it had been,
- a treaties that advocates for women's equal political and legal rights and (that advocates) for changes in the married.....

Would this be correct?
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I got the answer right but I have a doubt.

Should'nt there be a comma before "and" in "and legal rights for women" because it is the second element in the list.

If no, please explain when should comma be used with "and" when "and" is used for separating the last element in a list?
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If a list has only two elements, we do not need to put a comma; Only when the list contains more than two items, then we put a comma between each of those items and finally of course, "a comma + and" before the last thing.
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I am with B.


C , D , E can't assign human traits to objects

B says she argues in a treatise

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kongaharsha wrote:
ItsABrainGame wrote:
In 1850 Lucretia Mott published her Discourse on Women, arguing in a treatise for
women to have equal political and legal rights
and for changes in the married women’s
property laws.

A. arguing in a treatise for women to have equal political and legal rights
B. arguing in a treatise for equal political and legal rights for women
C. a treatise that advocates women’s equal political and legal rights
D. a treatise advocating women’s equal political and legal rights
E. a treatise that argued for equal political and legal rights for women



I am more keen in understanding parallelism in C & E. A lot of ppl have said E is correct based on parallelism which I agree but I need some clarification on concept here.

In C, if it had been,
- a treaties that advocates for women's equal political and legal rights and (that advocates) for changes in the married.....

Would this be correct?



Hi kongaharsha,

Well if you pay close attention to the part " women's equal political and legal rights " I think this part is another reason why this choice is incorrect.
Why you may ask?
Women's is an adjective that is modifying 'equal political and legal rights."

So there is subtle change in meaning .
The original sentence wants to convey that the treatise argue for X for women. Its like this X does not exist for women so she wants this X for women also.

while this sentence seems to convey the treatise argue Women's X. Its like there is Men's X , and Women's X and she( is arguing for ) advovates women's X

Atleast i do see this as problem as subtle change in meaning . When i look at choice E it is much more concise and clearly communicated the intended taught of the author. .

Let me know if this helps.
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‘Discourse on women’ is the title of Mott’s publication comprising her speeches. This publication is a called a treatise that gives information about what the publication contains and as such, it is an appositive modifier of ‘Discourse on Women



Hi Daagh,

Though, I was able to tick the right option in this question, i.e. option E, I am unable to get the structure of the question.
Option E is - In 1850 Lucretia Mott published her Discourse on Women, a treatise that argued for equal political and legal rights for women and for changes in the married women’s property laws.
can't we say that it has two Independent Clauses joined by a comma. first clause is In 1850 Lucretia Mott published her Discourse on Women and the second one is : a treatise that argued for equal political and legal rights for women and for changes in the married women’s property laws.

I am struggling with the basics please help me in clearing it.
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Sir,

Probably, you could identify the name of book that is "Discourse on women" because of first capital letter of discourse. If discourse had been written as "discourse", you would have made same mistake that I did.
Am I correct?
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‘Discourse on women’ is the title of Mott’s publication comprising her speeches. This publication is a called a treatise that gives information about what the publication contains and as such, it is an appositive modifier of ‘Discourse on Women
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In 1850 Lucretia Mott published her Discourse on Women, arguing in a treatise for women to have equal political and legal rights and for changes in the married women’s property laws.

A. arguing in a treatise for women to have equal political and legal rights
B. arguing in a treatise for equal political and legal rights for women
C. a treatise that advocates women’s equal political and legal rights
D. a treatise advocating women’s equal political and legal rights
E. a treatise that argued for equal political and legal rights for women

In 1850 Lucretia Mott published her Discourse on Women, arguing in a treatise for women to have equal political and legal rights and for changes in the married women’s property laws.

A. arguing in a treatise for women to have equal political and legal rights [modifier]
B. arguing in a treatise for equal political and legal rights for women [modifier]
C. a treatise that advocates women’s equal political and legal rights [parallelism]
D. a treatise advocating women’s equal political and legal rights [parallelism]
E. a treatise that argued for equal political and legal rights for women [correct]
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Hello Everyone!

Let's take a closer look at this question and determine the best way to tackle it! Before we dive in, here is the original question with the major differences in each option highlighted in orange:

In 1850 Lucretia Mott published her Discourse on Women, arguing in a treatise for women to have equal political and legal rights and for changes in the married women’s property laws.

A. arguing in a treatise for women to have equal political and legal rights
B. arguing in a treatise for equal political and legal rights for women
C. a treatise that advocates women’s equal political and legal rights
D. a treatise advocating women’s equal political and legal rights
E. a treatise that argued for equal political and legal rights for women

After a quick glance over the options, we see a couple things we can focus on:

1. "arguing in a treatise" vs. "a treatise" (Modifiers)
2. "for women..." / "for equal..." / "women's equal..." (Parallelism)


Let's start with #1 on our list: modifiers! We know that the modifier should be modifying "Discourse on Women." What is Discourse on Women? A treatise! So the modifier that comes directly after the title should tell us what it is - it's a treatise, not an argument! Let's see how the options break down:

A. arguing in a treatise for women to have equal political and legal rights
B. arguing in a treatise for equal political and legal rights for women
C. a treatise that advocates women’s equal political and legal rights
D. a treatise advocating women’s equal political and legal rights
E. a treatise that argued for equal political and legal rights for women

We can eliminate options A & B because they are trying to make the modifier pair up with Mott and not the title of the treatise itself, which is what it should be modifying!

Now that we're left with 3 options, let's move on to #2: parallelism! There are 2 things that the treatise argues for:

1. equal political and legal rights for women
2. changes in married women's property laws

BOTH items need to be written using parallel structure. This means they need to use similar verb tenses, structure, wording, etc. Let's see which of the remaining options uses parallel structure. To make this easier to spot, I've added in the rest of the sentence so you can clearly see both items that need to be parallel:

C. a treatise that advocates women’s equal political and legal rights and for changes in the married women’s property laws. --> NOT PARALLEL
D. a treatise advocating women’s equal political and legal rights and for changes in the married women’s property laws. --> NOT PARALLEL
E. a treatise that argued for equal political and legal rights for women and for changes in the married women’s property laws. --> PARALLEL

There you have it - option E is the correct choice! The modifier clearly refers to the right thing, and it uses parallel structure!


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I eliminate E because I thought that A TREATISE CAN'T ARGUE but PEOPLE CAN ARGUE.
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