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26. The author of the passage is primarily concerned with

It is clear that the author discusses both the advantages and disadvantages of two definitions. Anything less would not be the answer. Hence, A is too passive for this passage.

(A) Incorrect.
(B) the author is not arguing for anyone particular definition. Incorrect.
(C) Correct.
(D) not just advantages but also disadvantages... Anything less is incorrect.
(E) this is not about ambiguity but both advantages and disadvantages. Incorrect.

27. In comparing the United States government's definition
of services with the classical definition, the author
suggests that the classical definition is
(A) classical is less pragmatic than government definition
(B) more difficult to apply - " more hard to sustain" Correct.
(C) nothing was more ambiguous than the other... The issue is more of scope and not ambiguity....
(D) widely used.... Not mentioned....
(E) not mentioned.,,,

28. The passage suggests which of the following about
service workers in the United States?
(A) Correct. Some service workers fall under industry using the government definition. Hence, there will be an underestimation.
(B) and (C) and (D) mention exact statistical comparison which we don't know about....
(E) What falls under classical is irrelevant to the definition of the government... The issue is some workers not being counted based on the gov definition,, Incorrect...

29. The author of the passage mentions which of the
following as one disadvantage of the United States
government's definition of services?

(B) It is actually broader than classical
(C) It is based on the final product produced rather
than on the type of work performed. correct.
(D) Not the disadvantage....
(E) It misclassifies many workers who are employed
in service industries. * this is tempting but those that were not classified as service workers fall in the industry not those in the industry were misclassified. This will tend to confuse especially given the time constraint during the test.... But we do not know whether service industries workers were misclassified....

30. The author refers to "service workers employed by
manufacturers" (line 23) primarily in order to point out

(B) a flaw in the United States government's
definition of services
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Dear experts,

My problem is with question no. 27.

Can we assume that practicality of a particular definition and difficulty of applying a particular definition are correlated ??

Moreover, the passage says that the classical definition is hard to sustain. Does this mean that it is more difficult to apply this definition ??

How do we go about tacking such a question ? What's the idea or logic here ?

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Dear experts,

My problem is with question no. 27.
Can we assume that practicality of a particular definition and difficulty of applying a particular definition are correlated ??

Moreover, the passage says that the classical definition is hard to sustain. Does this mean that it is more difficult to apply this definition ??

How do we go about tacking such a question ? What's the idea or logic here ?

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Yes, the passage says that the US gov's definition is more practical, where practical means "of or concerned with the actual doing or use of something rather than with theory and ideas." So the more practical something is, the easier it is to apply.

"Sustain" in this context means "to keep up" or "maintain". The classical definition is hard to maintain because it is inaccurate in many instances. In other words, it is difficult to consistently apply the classical definition in practice. This definition might work in some cases, but it will fail in many cases.

For example, the passage implies that electric utilities and computer programming should be classified as "services", but according to the classical definition, they would not qualify as services. So the classical definition fails. Again, this implies that the classical definition is hard to maintain and impractical.
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Question 27:

Why C is incorrect?
In the text:

Such ambiguities reveal the arbitrariness of this definition (USA definitinion)

Why cannot we deduce, that the clasical definition is less ambiguos?

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Question 27:

Why C is incorrect?
In the text:

Such ambiguities reveal the arbitrariness of this definition (USA definitinion)

Why cannot we deduce, that the clasical definition is less ambiguos?

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Javier.
You are correct that the passage specifically states that the government's definition is ambiguous in many cases. However, can we say with certainty that the classical definition is less ambiguous?

The passage simply does not support that claim. At the end of the second paragraph, the author states that the classical definition is "hard to sustain" because it potentially misclassifies services such as electric utilities and computer programming. This both implies that the classical definition is impractical and, in some cases, ambiguous. Because both definitions are ambiguous and the author never offers a direct comparison of the two on this point, we cannot say that the classical definition is less ambiguous than the government's definition.

A comparison of the practicality of the two definitions is much more clear: the first sentence of the second paragraph states that "the United States government's definition is more practical." From this, we can say that the classical definition is more difficult to apply (see this post for more information). (B) is the correct choice for question #27.

I hope that helps!
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29. The author of the passage mentions which of the following as one disadvantage of the United States government's definition of services?


(C) It is based on the final product produced rather than on the type of work performed.
As mentioned in the passage - It categorizes workers based on their company's final product rather than on the actual work the employees perform.


But why is option (E) incorrect?

(E) It mis-classifies many workers who are employed in service industries.

As mentioned in the passage -
1) this definition fails to recognize the distinction between service industries and service occupations.
2) the many service workers employed by manufacturers bookkeepers or janitors, for example-would fall under the industrial rather than the services category

While option C is the direct answer I'd like to know why option (E) is incorrect. As GMATNinja says, In RC do not search for the correct answer choice, but look for four incorrect ones.
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GMATNinja mikemcgarry Please could you help me with the following question.


29. The author of the passage mentions which of the following as one disadvantage of the United States government's definition of services?


(C) It is based on the final product produced rather than on the type of work performed.
As mentioned in the passage - It categorizes workers based on their company's final product rather than on the actual work the employees perform.


But why is option (E) incorrect?

(E) It mis-classifies many workers who are employed in service industries.

As mentioned in the passage -
1) this definition fails to recognize the distinction between service industries and service occupations.
2) the many service workers employed by manufacturers bookkeepers or janitors, for example-would fall under the industrial rather than the services category

While option C is the direct answer I'd like to know why option (E) is incorrect. As GMATNinja says, In RC do not search for the correct answer choice, but look for four incorrect ones.

Option E would be correct if it said "It mis-classifies many workers who are employed in industrial sector". The example you have quoted doesn't talk about people who are employed in the service sector; these people are employed in the industrial sector.
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GMATNinja mikemcgarry Please could you help me with the following question.


29. The author of the passage mentions which of the following as one disadvantage of the United States government's definition of services?


(C) It is based on the final product produced rather than on the type of work performed.
As mentioned in the passage - It categorizes workers based on their company's final product rather than on the actual work the employees perform.


But why is option (E) incorrect?

(E) It mis-classifies many workers who are employed in service industries.

As mentioned in the passage -
1) this definition fails to recognize the distinction between service industries and service occupations.
2) the many service workers employed by manufacturers bookkeepers or janitors, for example-would fall under the industrial rather than the services category

While option C is the direct answer I'd like to know why option (E) is incorrect. As GMATNinja says, In RC do not search for the correct answer choice, but look for four incorrect ones.
The relevant piece of the passage says the US government's definition of services:
  • "categorizes workers based on their company's final product rather than on the actual work the employees perform," AND that
  • under this definition "many service workers employed by manufacturers bookkeepers or janitors, for example-would fall under the industrial rather than the services category"

So the passage does say that the government's definition misclassifies some workers, but here's the important bit: all the workers mentioned in the passage that are being misclassified are service workers but, since they work for companies in the industrial category, they are categorized as industrial workers.

Here's answer choice (E):
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(E) [the US government's definition of services] misclassifies many workers who are employed in service industries.
This may be true but the passage only talks about people in service occupations who work for manufacturers -- these workers get misclassified into the industrial category. Answer choice (E) implies the opposite issue -- that somehow, there are workers counted in the service category who should be classified in some other way.

From the information in the passage, we can't tell if workers in service industries are being misclassified, so (E) cannot be the answer to question 29.

I hope that helps!
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Question 27:

Why C is incorrect?
In the text:

Such ambiguities reveal the arbitrariness of this definition (USA definitinion)

Why cannot we deduce, that the clasical definition is less ambiguos?

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You are correct that the passage specifically states that the government's definition is ambiguous in many cases. However, can we say with certainty that the classical definition is less ambiguous?

The passage simply does not support that claim. At the end of the second paragraph, the author states that the classical definition is "hard to sustain" because it potentially misclassifies services such as electric utilities and computer programming. This both implies that the classical definition is impractical and, in some cases, ambiguous. Because both definitions are ambiguous and the author never offers a direct comparison of the two on this point, we cannot say that the classical definition is less ambiguous than the government's definition.

A comparison of the practicality of the two definitions is much more clear: the first sentence of the second paragraph states that "the United States government's definition is more practical." From this, we can say that the classical definition is more difficult to apply (see this post for more information). (B) is the correct choice for question #27.

I hope that helps!

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(A) more pragmatic
(B) more difficult to apply
(C) less ambiguous
(D) more widely used
(E) more arbitrary
Hi GMATNinja AjiteshArun

Classical definition --> some issues
Government definition--> less issues than classical
It is given government definition was arbitrary

Why can't we conclude that classical definition is more arbitrary.
Arbitrary means something that is applied can be argued based on fundamentals on which the definition is based.
classical definition was more hard to apply because it was more arbitrary

Please help to get rid of option E.

More difficult to apply --> it doesn't mean it is difficult to apply, maybe it is easy to apply but end result may be wrong. It seems classical definition was more easy to apply because logic was simple: Apply XYZ if Z . How is it hard to apply? I think it is easy to apply but because results would be wrong because it was more arbitrary.
So I rejected C.
( Another such reference: It is easy to do hard question . It doesn't mean the answer is correct. Maybe for hard questions just guess blindly then it more easy to do hard question unless it is mentioned that " it is difficult to get hard questions correct".)

It seems this question is more of a meaning based . But I am still confused between C and E:(

Please share what am I doing wrong.:( :cry:
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Arbitrary means something that is applied can be argued based on fundamentals on which the definition is based.
Hi mSKR,

1. The author never calls the classical definition arbitrary. Keep in mind that arbitrary means something that is done randomly, without any reason. There may be issues with the classical definition, but that doesn't necessarily mean that it is arbitrary.

2. On the other hand, as you pointed out, the author definitely calls the United States government's definition arbitrary ("such ambiguities reveal the arbitrariness of this definition").

I wouldn't want to find any fault here other than the linking of "issues" to "arbitrary".
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egmat GMATNinja team! Could you please help with Question number 29!

Option E seems right to me
Option C is a feature of the "services" but not necessarily a disadvantage in itself.

Kindly guide Thanks in advance
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egmat GMATNinja team! Could you please help with Question number 29!

Option E seems right to me
Option C is a feature of the "services" but not necessarily a disadvantage in itself.

Kindly guide Thanks in advance

Hey srishR, I'm no expert but see if this helps :) -

1. Option E talks about misclassification in the service sector, however, the example quoted within the passage is of a misclassification within the industrial sector. Although, I understand that a vice-versa misclassification is highly likely, it has not been explicitly stated in the passage.

2. Here is option C - "It is based on the final product produced rather than on the type of work performed"
The it in bold here does not refer to the services themselves, but rather to the definition of the services. It's the definition that is based on the final product rather than on the type of work performed.
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