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In many upper class Egyptian homes, French was spoken within the family, just as it had once been among the Russian aristocracy.

(A) just as it had once been among the Russian aristocracy

(B) just like it once had been among the Russian aristocracy

(C) just as the Russian aristocracy had once done

(D) similar to what the Russian aristocracy had done once

(E) like what had once been done by the Russian aristocracy
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In many upper class Egyptian homes, French was spoken within the family, just as it had once been among the Russian aristocracy.

A. just as it had once been among the Russian aristocracy

B. just like it once had been among the Russian aristocracy

C. just as the Russian aristocracy had once done

D. similar to what the Russian aristocracy had done once

E. like what had once been done by the Russian aristocracy



In this sentence two actions are being compared. Action of language being spoken. so LIKE can be eliminated altogether as like is used for comparing nouns. B and E gone. Now between A & C, we see that non- underlined part of sentence is in passive voice. 'french was spoken ' , so the underlined part of sentence should have a similar construction. french was spoken - just as it had once been. Both are in passive , Thus A is correct. Look at C it doesn't emphasis the language but instead emphasises the russian aristocracy and changes the construction to active voice. We can't have two forms of voice in one sentence . so B and D out.
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New post 06 Aug 2011, 09:43
I chose C.

A- it refers to an act rather than something concrete- wrong
B- same as above- wrong
C- correct, and concise too
D- done once.. once? not again??- wrong
E- like... - wrong

Can someone please explain why the answer is A and not C.

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New post 06 Aug 2011, 14:13
well answer choices can be eliminated as below

A- let's keep it for a while
B- Like is used to compare nouns/pronouns...whereas here sentence is comparing use of french
C and D - Wrong modifiers as, not Russian Aristrocracy but french Language Use had to be modified.
E- Missing pronoun for Subject on what was done by Russian's

Out of all only possible is A
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New post 06 Aug 2011, 20:02
+1 for A.

A good "like" vs "as" question.

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Parallelism is required. Like cannot be used. A
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New post 21 Dec 2011, 07:46
Y, just as X

Choice A is the correct one.
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New post 21 Dec 2011, 08:29
Its should be A, in C C the meaning is reverse
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New post 21 Dec 2011, 09:18
+1 A , good question to brush up the parallel question basics
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In many upper class Egyptian homes, French was spoken within the family, just as it had once been among the Russian aristocracy.
A. just as it had once been among the Russian aristocracy
B. just like it once had been among the Russian aristocracy
C. just as the Russian aristocracy had once done
D. similar to what the Russian aristocracy had done once
E. like what had once been done by the Russian aristocracy


In this sentence two actions are being compared. Action of language being spoken. so LIKE can be eliminated altogether as like is used for comparing nouns. B and E gone. Now between A & C, we see that non- underlined part of sentence is in passive voice. 'french was spoken ' , so the underlined part of sentence should have a similar construction. french was spoken - just as it had once been. Both are in passive , Thus A is correct. Look at C it doesn't emphasis the language but instead emphasises the russian aristocracy and changes the construction to active voice. We can't have two forms of voice in one sentence . so B and D out.


Hi AJ85,
I would like to emphasize that use of Active & passive voice is NOT THE MAIN difference between option A & C.
Option C compares two actions "French was spoken in many Egyptian homes" & "Russian aristocracy has done once" but the comparison does not make any logical sense.
On the contrary option A compares two actions "French was spoken in many Egyptian homes" & "French had once been spoken among Russian aristocracy" , and thus the comparison makes any logical sense.

Even though option A is best among the rest, but i feel the quality of this question is quite POOR for 2 reasons:-
a) Split infinitive is used in option A (Incorrect most of the times)
b) Pronoun "IT" cannot stand for a Clause/action.

Hope it helps.
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I chose A - uses as and passive voice as in the main clause

B and E - like should not be used for comparing actions

C and D - active voice is being used
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New post 27 Aug 2013, 23:21
A - contender, looks good
B - Just like never true in GMAT
C - Contender , keep it
D - Similar to/Like used to compare nouns not the act i.e. clause or phrase, here similar to is used to compare many upper class Egyptian homes with the act the Russian had done. So false.
E - same as D

Now left with A and C, well now looking at the meaning of the sentence which talks about the language French but in C the language French is not mentioned at all and in A the pronoun it clearly refers to French. Hence A is true
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In many upper class Egyptian homes, French was spoken within the family, just as it had once been among the Russian aristocracy.

A. just as it had once been among the Russian aristocracy

Correct

B. just like it once had been among the Russian aristocracy

there is redundancy when we use "just" and "like" together, also like cannot be used for comparing actions

C. just as the Russian aristocracy had once done

didn't sound right to me

D. similar to what the Russian aristocracy had done once

change of meaning as "just as" means exactly same, while "similar" is not exactly same

E. like what had once been done by the Russian aristocracy

like cannot be used for comparing actions

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In many upper class Egyptian homes, French was spoken within the family, just as it had once been among the Russian aristocracy.

A. just as it had once been among the Russian aristocracy -- repetition of verb spoken is elided in second half -- sentence is in passive -- looks ok

B. just like it once had been among the Russian aristocracy -- we can not place a clause after like

C. just as the Russian aristocracy had once done -- sentence is in active voice but main clause in passive voice.

D. similar to what the Russian aristocracy had done once -- active voice -- bad sentence.

E. like what had once been done by the Russian aristocracy -- we can not place clause after like
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does anybody feel "it" in A can refer to the French as well as family? doesn't seem ambiguious?
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This one is about the correct use of ellipses and comparison.

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amritgodofwar wrote:
In many upper class Egyptian homes, French was spoken within the family, just as it had once been among the Russian aristocracy.

(A) just as it had once been among the Russian aristocracy

(B) just like it once had been among the Russian aristocracy

(C) just as the Russian aristocracy had once done

(D) similar to what the Russian aristocracy had done once

(E) like what had once been done by the Russian aristocracy


1. like - goes only with nouns
as - goes with full clause
So we have to use As here

2. we have to maintain parallelism
French was spoken - passive voice ---> the 2nd part has to be in passive voice

Only A meets the criteria
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Key to correctly answering this question is differentiating between choice (A) and choice (C).

Considered within the context of the sentence, choice (A) may sound a little better than choice (C) does, but in order to consistently answer SC questions correctly, we have to go beyond using the way the choices sound, especially as, in higher level questions, incorrect answers are often written to sound correct and correct answers are written to sound incorrect.

It may also be tempting to decide that (A) is better because it matches the preceding clause by using the passive voice. While that take is related to why (A) is better, it isn't completely valid, as active and passive can be correctly used in different clauses in a sentence and even within the same clause.

Consider the following perfectly correct example.

    Jenna was hired on Tuesday, and she started working on Wednesday. - passive then active

So, what truly makes (A) better than (C)?

Meaning.

Let's look at the sentence created via the use of (C).

    In many upper class Egyptian homes, French was spoken within the family, just as the Russian aristocracy had once done.

This version conveys the nonsensical meaning that French was spoken within the family just as the Russian aristocracy had once been spoken within the family.

Now, let's look at the sentence created via the use of (A).

    In many upper class Egyptian homes, French was spoken within the family, just as it had once been among the Russian aristocracy.

This version conveys the logical meaning that French was spoken within the family, just as French had once been spoken among the Russian aristocracy.

That difference in meaning is what makes (A) better than (C).
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Here are my two cents on such questions and tough SC questions in general. Those that know their grammar rules will score high enough to crack as high as 75th percentile. However, once you start getting tough SC questions that test both the grammar and specifically the INTENDED MEANING of a sentence is where things get tough. Rather than going by your ear, it is best to consider the two answer choices you are stuck on and evaluate each at a time. If you are having difficulty inferring a meaning from a choice or you feel the meaning conveyed is illogical, then you have given yourself the ability to eliminate an answer choice. In this question, comparisons and ellipses are tested(the omission of one word in A makes the choice sound clunky and weird). Getting these questions right is all about logic and thinking. Don't be a robot and just start eliminating choices blatantly on grammar rules. Combine your understanding of both meaning and grammar to solve these questions. Granted there are some questions that are pretty nasty, if you aren't aiming at pure perfection on Verbal, then don't worry about having to get everything right. Get everything that you CAN get right and just put a bit more effort into thinking.
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Amazing response, thank you! Was struggling to get to the right answer.
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amritgodofwar wrote:
In many upper class Egyptian homes, French was spoken within the family, just as it had once been among the Russian aristocracy.

A. just as it had once been among the Russian aristocracy

B. just like it once had been among the Russian aristocracy

C. just as the Russian aristocracy had once done

D. similar to what the Russian aristocracy had done once

E. like what had once been done by the Russian aristocracy



In this sentence two actions are being compared. Action of language being spoken. so LIKE can be eliminated altogether as like is used for comparing nouns. B and E gone. Now between A & C, we see that non- underlined part of sentence is in passive voice. 'french was spoken ' , so the underlined part of sentence should have a similar construction. french was spoken - just as it had once been. Both are in passive , Thus A is correct. Look at C it doesn't emphasis the language but instead emphasises the russian aristocracy and changes the construction to active voice. We can't have two forms of voice in one sentence . so B and D out.
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