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In the minds of many people living in England, before Australia was Australia, it was the antipodes, the opposite pole to civilization, an obscure and unimaginable place that was considered the end of the world.

(A) before Australia was Australia, it was the antipodes
(B) before there was Australia, it was the antipodes
(C) it was the antipodes that was Australia
(D) Australia was what was the antipodes
(E) Australia was what had been known as the antipodes
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IMO 'A'

It means: before the country that is now know as Australia got that name.
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In the minds of many people living in England, before Australia was Australia, it was the antipodes, the
opposite pole to civilization, an obscure and unimaginable place that was considered the end of the world.
(A) before Australia was Australia, it was the antipodes
(B) before there was Australia, it was the antipodes
(C) it was the antipodes that was Australia
(D) Australia was what was the antipodes
(E) Australia was what had been known as the antipodes

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In the minds of many people living in England, before Australia was Australia, it was the antipodes, the
opposite pole to civilization, an obscure and unimaginable place that was considered the end of the world.

(A) before Australia was Australia, it was the antipodes
'it' refers to Australia, and the meaning is clear. Before Australia was a country, the land was the antipodes.


(B) before there was Australia, it was the antipodes
It sounds as if the land itself never existed. 'it' is ambiguous

(C) it was the antipodes that was Australia
Australia, the opposite pole to civilization. It sounds as if Australia is the opposite pole to civilization.

(D) Australia was what was the antipodes
Just awkward. This doesn't even make sense.

(E) Australia was what had been known as the antipodes
I found this answer choice hard to cross off at first, but the use of past perfect tense is wrong here. Using past perfect tense, Australia is no longer once known as antipodes. Australia is still the country once known as antipodes.

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In the minds of many people living in England, before Australia was Australia, it was
the antipodes,
the opposite pole to civilization, an obscure and unimaginable place that
was considered the end of the world.
(A) before Australia was Australia, it was the antipodes
(B) before there was Australia, it was the antipodes
(C) it was the antipodes that was Australia
(D) Australia was what was the antipodes
(E) Australia was what had been known as the antipodes.

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New post 13 Mar 2011, 06:14
D and E - "what" error
C - that pronoun error
B - there is passive

A remains

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In the minds of many people living in England, before Australia was Australia, it was
the antipodes,
the opposite pole to civilization, an obscure and unimaginable place that
was considered the end of the world.
(A) before Australia was Australia, it was the antipodes
(B) before there was Australia, it was the antipodes
(C) it was the antipodes that was Australia
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What is "what" error" ?

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sorry I dont mean to invent a fancy name. "what" is used for exclusivity. Its usage is more of a empahsizer in D and E. The side effect is the change of meaning. In D and E the emphasis is on "Australia". Infact it should emphasize "antipodes" like in A.

Pls also note that underlined part MUST end in antipodes. Antipodes = opposite pole. I am referring Oxford dictionary.

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sorry I dont mean to invent a fancy name. "what" is used for exclusivity. Its usage is more of a empahsizer in D and E. The side effect is the change of meaning. In D and E the emphasis is on "Australia". Infact it should emphasize "antipodes" like in A.

Pls also note that underlined part MUST end in antipodes. Antipodes = opposite pole. I am referring Oxford dictionary.


Yes, and (E) has the past-past tense "what had been known"--which is incorrect tense. You can modify it to be:
"Australia was known as the antipodes, the opposite pole to civilization..."

You could also modify (D) like so without the extra words that gmat1220 mentioned:
"Australia was the antipodes, the opposite pole to civilization..."

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IMO 'A'

It means: before the country that is now know as Australia got that name.


Not sure what it is referring to? It would be great if some one can throw some more light on this. This question deserves some discussion.

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In the minds of many people living in England, before Australia was Australia, it was the antipodes, the
opposite pole to civilization, an obscure and unimaginable place that was considered the end of the world.

(A) before Australia was Australia, it was the antipodes
CORRECT
(B) before there was Australia, it was the antipodes
what does "it" refer to? Logically is not correct also: "before there was Australia" gives us the idea that the island appeared one day.
(C) it was the antipodes that was Australia
This is totally wrong (logically, grammatically,...)
(D) Australia was what was the antipodes
"was what was" can't be right.
(E) Australia was what had been known as the antipodes
wordy, the tense is wrong ("had been + verb" is used to indicate an action that took place over a period of time in the past, before another action happened)
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Honestly, I am not a big buyer that the pronoum "IT" doesn't have a clear reference in answers A, B and C. Sometimes, the placeholder IT can be used to remove the awkward effect in a phrase:

E.g.1: It was him the culprit of _____. ----> It refers to "the culprit"
E.g.2: It was possible that he did ____. ----> It refers to "that____"
E.g.3: It is hard to think of _____. ---> It refers to "to think of___"

Can someone explain me why this is not the case?



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In the minds of many people living in England, before Australia was Australia, it was the antipodes, the
opposite pole to civilization, an obscure and unimaginable place that was considered the end of the world.
(A) before Australia was Australia, it was the antipodes
(B) before there was Australia, it was the antipodes
(C) it was the antipodes that was Australia
(D) Australia was what was the antipodes
(E) Australia was what had been known as the antipodes

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Honestly, I am not a big buyer that the pronoum "IT" doesn't have a clear reference in answers A, B and C. Sometimes, the placeholder IT can be used to remove the awkward effect in a phrase:

E.g.1: It was him the culprit of _____. ----> It refers to "the culprit"
E.g.2: It was possible that he did ____. ----> It refers to "that____"
E.g.3: It is hard to think of _____. ---> It refers to "to think of___"

Can someone explain me why this is not the case?


1. It was him, the culprit of Stevens murders, who was hanged yesterday
2. It was possible that he did the right work
3. It is hard to think of an alibi.

In none of the above examples 'it' is acting as a pronoun, for the simple reason that 'it' cannot be replaced by a noun/noun phrase.
That's why 'it' is called a placeholder or a dummy pronoun or a syntactic expletive (it just performs a syntactic role and doesn't add to the meaning)

Simple words - If you can replace 'it' with a noun/noun phrase (mostly 'it' refers to neutral gender or things or animals), then 'it' is acting as a pronoun.
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I don't know if it's just my computer, but the original post isn't showing which part of the sentence needs to be corrected. Can this be fixed to include the underline?

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In the minds of many people living in England, before Australia was Australia, it was the antipodes, the
opposite pole to civilization, an obscure and unimaginable place that was considered the end of the world.



(A) before Australia was Australia, it was the antipodes

Bingo. The meaning of the sentence is clear and there is no ambiguity.

(B) before there was Australia, it was the antipodes

Meaning is obscure. It seems as if Australia never excited and came into existence after it came into the minds of people living in England.

(C) it was the antipodes that was Australia

Completely distorts the meaning. The antipodes are separate of Australia. This makes it seems as if they are the same but they are not.

(D) Australia was what was the antipodes

Refer to explanation given for answer C.

(E) Australia was what had been known as the antipodes

Refer to explanation given for answer C.

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