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In the traditional Japanese household, most clothing could be packed flatly, and so it was not necessary to have elaborate closet facilities.

(A) flatly, and so it was not necessary to have elaborate closet facilities
(B) flat, and so elaborate closet facilities were unnecessary
(C) flatly, and so there was no necessity for elaborate closet facilities
(D) flat, there being no necessity for elaborate closet facilities
(E) flatly, as no elaborate closet facilities were necessary

Originally posted by nakib77 on 30 Nov 2005, 14:32.
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New post 30 Nov 2005, 14:54
B.

to me, flatly is not correct adverb. Flat is correct(irregular adverb where its not suffixed by -ly).

B is concise.

D. uses of "there being" is awkward
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New post 30 Nov 2005, 15:04
In A "it" doesn't have a clear reference. The reference for "it" can be both "traditional Japanese household and clothing". A is wrong. In E we are comparing "no elaborate closet facilities" with "traditional Japanese household", which is wrong. D is wron because we wrongly use the past tense. Between B and C, B is better. "There was no necessity" is wordy and less concise than "elaborate closet facilities were unnecessary". B is the correct answer.
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3. In the traditional Japanese household, most clothing could be packed flatly, and so it was not necessary to have elaborate closet facilities.
(A) flatly, and so it was not necessary to have elaborate closet facilities
(B) flat, and so elaborate closet facilities were unnecessary
(C) flatly, and so there was no necessity for elaborate closet facilities
(D) flat, there being no necessity for elaborate closet facilities
(E) flatly, as no elaborate closet facilities were necessary


Well, A. C and E are wrong due to the use of "flatly" ...it should be " flat" . Think of the case of "keep" , after "keep", there should be an adjective; for example:Everything in the room was kept tidy.D should be avoided due to the use of "being"

I go for B.
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New post 01 Dec 2005, 12:42
Another B

We have B and D from POE. D is out because of "being" and B is more concise/clear.
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3. In the traditional Japanese household, most clothing could be packed flatly, and so it was not necessary to have elaborate closet facilities.
(A) flatly, and so it was not necessary to have elaborate closet facilities
(B) flat, and so elaborate closet facilities were unnecessary
(C) flatly, and so there was no necessity for elaborate closet facilities
(D) flat, there being no necessity for elaborate closet facilities
(E) flatly, as no elaborate closet facilities were necessary


packed is an adjective. flatly is an adverb. An adverb should be in front of an adjective.

Example:
a lovely dinner
NOT a dinner lovely

Therefore, ACE are wrong. BD are left. being is hardly ever correct on the GMAT.

B.
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nakib77 wrote:
3. In the traditional Japanese household, most clothing could be packed flatly, and so it was not necessary to have elaborate closet facilities.
(A) flatly, and so it was not necessary to have elaborate closet facilities
(B) flat, and so elaborate closet facilities were unnecessary
(C) flatly, and so there was no necessity for elaborate closet facilities
(D) flat, there being no necessity for elaborate closet facilities
(E) flatly, as no elaborate closet facilities were necessary


packed is an adjective. flatly is an adverb. An adverb should be in front of an adjective.

Example:
a lovely dinner
NOT a dinner lovely

Therefore, ACE are wrong. BD are left. being is hardly ever correct on the GMAT.

B.


"packed" is actually a verb in this case. Adverbs (in a context) such as "fast", "flat", "high" are used without "+ly"
E.g. -He runs fast (Incorrect: He runs fastly)
-Throw high (Incorrect: throw highly)
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I'm not an expert on noun and verb modifiers. I myself have chosen to not give importance to that topic because I never understood it in detail. Still, I"ll try to answer your question based on my understanding.

In this question, b is the right answer. Flat describes the noun clothing, hence is an adjective, implying that flatly is wrong. We can rule our A, C and E based on this rule. Between b and d, I chose b since it was structurally a better constructed sentence.

Now, coming to noun modifiers - my understanding: phrases that modufy nouns are called noun modiefiers. Adjectives are noun modifiers too.
Eg. 1.The grey cat crossed the road. Grey is the noun modifier here(also an adjective,incidentally)
2.The teacher who taught us Physics last year has invited us to join her Physics club. who taught us Physics is the noun modiefier here. Noun modifiers are placed close to the noun that they modify

Verb Modifiers - my understanding: modifies verbs and answers questions such as 'when', 'how', where' etc. Adverbs fall into this category.
Eg.Everyday, I buy a sandwich at this Deli. Here everyday is a verb modifier that modifies buy. Verb modifiers need not be places close to the verb that they modify

Hope that helps.

NOTE - Any SC expert out herE? Let me know if my understaning is correct in this case.
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Some words can be used as both adjectives and adverbs; flat is one among them. A few more are late, fast, hard, close deep etc. These do not need to be suffixed with the 'ly' tag to denote that they are adverbs.

The test is to find the answer for these question, - packed when, packed where, packed how and some such. If the word could answer any one of the questions, then it is an adverb, since adverbs denote time, manner, place etc.
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daagh,

Thanks.. That serially solves the queries in head.. But raises another question..
I am sorry but have to ask this question..

So here the flat is adverb and acting as verb modifier or it is adjective and acting as noun modifier?
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Flat in this context, is an adverb modifying the verb packed; make bold to choose B as the answer.
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imo B
between flat and flatly , flat is used correctly as adjective
being is just not requierd as almost always..
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imo B
between flat and flatly , flat is used correctly as adjective
being is just not requierd as almost always..


Can you please explain why C is incorrect. I got down between B and C and chose C instead.
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Necessity = something you must, unavoidable. Like food is a necessity. You would never use "food is not necessity for plants to grow". You use "food is not necessary for plants to grow."

Also flatly is an adverb and you're not describing any verb. You're trying to describe a noun, so you need an adjective. Flat

Sorry can't explain better.
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In the traditional Japanese household, most clothing could be packed flatly, and so it was not necessary to have elaborate closet facilities.
(A) flatly, and so it was not necessary to have elaborate closet facilities
(B) flat, and so elaborate closet facilities were unnecessary

Between A and B: A is simply wordy. "it was not necessary to have". I am unsure of the usage between flat and flatly. My gut feeling is flatly is not right.

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Also flatly is an adverb and you're not describing any verb. You're trying to describe a noun, so you need an adjective. Flat


Regarding above, flatly explains the verb "packed", so its still an adverb, right?
An adverb explains a verb, an adjective or another adverb.
if you ask the question: How are the clothes packed? The answer is flatly. So, it does seem to be correct.
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to my acknowledge, there can't be a "," before "and"
correct me if i'm wrong.
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YangYichen, it's fairly common to use a comma before "and." This happens all the time in lists. That usage is what we call the Oxford Comma, and while not everyone agrees on this usage, it's what the GMAT uses. (I'm also a fan!)

Correct: I like peanut butter, chocolate, and maple syrup.
Incorrect (according to me and the GMAT, but not to everyone): I like peanut butter, chocolate and maple syrup.

Another common situation in which we put a comma before "and" shows up in the original question. This is when we are using "and" to join two independent clauses:

I like peanut butter, and I put it on everything.
Clothing could be packed flat, so we didn't need elaborate closets.


Now if we don't have two clauses, you're right that we don't generally put a comma into the predicate of the sentence unless it's needed for clarity.

Correct: I like peanut butter and put it on everything. (There's no subject in the second part, so there's no new clause and no need for a comma. Note that in the sentence I just wrote, I follow the comma rule again! "There's no new clause" is a clause. :) )
Correct: Clothing could be packed flat and kept out of closets.

I hope this helps!
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I am struggling with noun and verb modifiers, especially when it comes to adverbs and adjectives.
Could any one explain how to identify both modifiers ?
Here is an example with which i encounter problems :
In the traditional Japanese household, most clothing could be packed flatly, and so it
was not necessary to have elaborate closet facilities.

(A) flatly, and so it was not necessary to have elaborate closet facilities
(B) flat, and so elaborate closet facilities were unnecessary
(C) flatly, and so there was no necessity for elaborate closet facilities
(D) flat, there being no necessity for elaborate closet facilities
(E) flatly, as no elaborate closet facilities were necessary

What is "flatly" in this case ?
thx in advance !



Though answer is B , I am not sure if a comma can be used before " AND ".
AND joins two independent clauses , and I read somewhere that a comma should not come before an AND.
and anybody confirm or deny this rule with some certainty?
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Though answer is B , I am not sure if a comma can be used before " AND ".
AND joins two independent clauses , and I read somewhere that a comma should not come before an AND.
and anybody confirm or deny this rule with come certainty?
Thank you, appreciate your contribution.

I'm not sure where you saw that rule, but "and" is very, very frequently preceded with a comma -- both when "and" joins two independent clauses, and when "and" is part of a list of three or more items. Just flip through the official guide, and you'll find dozens of correct answers with "and" preceded by a comma.
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:arrow: :arrow: "flatly" is incorrect here because it is being used as an adverb. Flatly is modifying the verb - pack.

what we need here something that modifies the noun-clothing- and hence "flat" is appropriate. Options A, C and E are out.

Between B and D, option D is wordy- 'there being...".

Hence option B is short and conveys the message correctly that the clothing is packed "flat".

Correct answer is B. :arrow: :arrow: :arrow:
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