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Inhospitable places on our planet, from steaming hot springs to the thick ice of the polar regions, tend to be populated by specially adapted microbes flourishing, it seems, in these extreme conditions and are therefore called "extremophiles."

(A) flourishing, it seems, in these extreme conditions and are
(B) that seem to flourish with these extreme conditions and
(C) that seem to flourish in these extreme conditions and that are
(D) seeming to flourish in these extreme conditions and are
(E) seeming to flourish with these extreme conditions and that are

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Can anyone explain the "that" rule in the in the OA? Also, if anyone uses the sentence correction guide from MGMAT can anyone tell me where to read about the "that" rule. Thanks

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A. (same as above) ---- places is the subject of the second clause—wrong
B. that seem to flourish with these extreme conditions and ------ places is the subject of the second clause; also the second clause misses that; wrong
C. that seem to flourish in these extreme conditions and that are --- best
D. seeming to flourish in these extreme conditions and are ----- same as A
E. seeming to flourish with these extreme conditions and that are --- that is missing in the first clause

The first thing is that extremophiles refers to a phylum of organisms rather than places; Therefore, we are necessitated to use relative clauses introduced by the connector that to modify the nearest noun microbes; Else, the second clause will be using the places as its subject and will thus be materially incorrect.
Second, these modifiers need to be equal and parallel;
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Inhospitable places on our planet, from steaming hot springs to the thick ice of the polar regions, tend to be populated by specially adapted microbes flourishing, it seems, in these extreme conditions and are therefore called "extremophiles."


A. (same as above)
B. that seem to flourish with these extreme conditions and
C. that seem to flourish in these extreme conditions and that are
D. seeming to flourish in these extreme conditions and are
E. seeming to flourish with these extreme conditions and that are

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Can anyone explain the "that" rule in the in the OA? Also, if anyone uses the sentence correction guide from MGMAT can anyone tell me where to read about the "that" rule. Thanks


HI DEL SINGH,

you can refer to this link: learn-how-that-can-help-you-demystify-a-long-sentence-138358.html

Use of that is explained very well here.

plus for your information :

whenever there is a parallelism marker such as AND(in this example) + either side of AND have THAT clause then other should also have THAT clause for the sake of parallelism.

hope it helps

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I selected option C , but found that its wrong.
I think that the use of "are" after and reders to microbes , so how can it be wrong on the grounds that "are" does not has subject.

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I selected option C , but found that its wrong.
I think that the use of "are" after and reders to microbes , so how can it be wrong on the grounds that "are" does not has subject.

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Archit C is the correct option, you got it right dude :)
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DelSingh wrote:
Inhospitable places on our planet, from steaming hot springs to the thick ice of the polar regions, tend to be populated by specially adapted microbes flourishing, it seems, in these extreme conditions and are therefore called "extremophiles."
A. (same as above)
B. that seem to flourish with these extreme conditions and
C. that seem to flourish in these extreme conditions and that are
D. seeming to flourish in these extreme conditions and are
E. seeming to flourish with these extreme conditions and that are

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Can anyone explain the "that" rule in the in the OA? Also, if anyone uses the sentence correction guide from MGMAT can anyone tell me where to read about the "that" rule. Thanks


that rule says - while using that in a list use that for both fragments of the list.However , i argue you can do here without knowing the rule.
In A, it has no antecedent. Eliminated.In B, with these conditions i think is incorrect, you survive in extreme conditions and not with extreme conditions. E is crossed out with the same reason. Between D and C , i have a problem with the word seeming and not to mention the usage of conjunction and. 'and' is used to connect independent clauses and in D that's not the case. The right hand side of 'and' is a phrase. C Wins.
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In A, it has no antecedent. Eliminated.

Actually it is used as a placeholder, not as a classical pronoun.

As daagh has mentioned above, the easiest reason why A can be dis-regarded is because A seems to suggest that Inhospitable places on our planet are called "extremophiles."!!
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It is really difficult for a non-native speaker to choose between A and C.
Actually, I choose A from the perspect of MEANING.
Some place are tend to be populated by some animals and therefore___are called BLABLA.
In my views, since place is the subject, it make more sense to me that place also be the subject of the subordinate sentence.
So, am I wrong?
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Inhospitable places on our planet, from steaming hot springs to the thick ice of the Polar Regions, tend to be populated by specially adapted microbes flourishing, it seems, in these extreme conditions and are therefore called “extremophiles.”

A. flourishing, it seems, in these extreme conditions and are -> this is bad construction. I have "and" and I need a clause both sides. "Flourishing" is a verbing modifier modifying microbes. So we have modifier and clause. which is not correct. If I have a list, it should be parallel in its function.
B. that seem to flourish with these extreme conditions and -> with , it seems that microbes flourish with these extreme conditions. It sounds as if both are flourishing together.
C. that seem to flourish in these extreme conditions and that are -> Correct
D. seeming to flourish in these extreme conditions and are -> Same issue as A) seeming is a modifier
E. seeming to flourish with these extreme conditions and that are -> Same issue as A) seeming is a modifier
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The first thing is that extremophiles refers to a phylum of organisms rather than places; Therefore, we are necessitated to use relative clauses introduced by the connector that to modify the nearest noun microbes; Else, the second clause will be using the places as its subject and will thus be materially incorrect.
Second, these modifiers need to be equal and parallel;
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To the original poster DelSingh, "that" is not necessary here.

Both of the following versions are correct:

1. Inhospitable places on our planet, from steaming hot springs to the thick ice of the polar regions, tend to be populated by specially adapted microbes that seem to flourish in these extreme conditions and that are therefore called “extremophiles”. (Correct)

2. Inhospitable places on our planet, from steaming hot springs to the thick ice of the polar regions, tend to be populated by specially adapted microbes that seem to flourish in these extreme conditions and are therefore called “extremophiles”. (Correct)
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Inhospitable places on our planet, from steaming hot springs to the thick ice of the polar regions, tend to be populated by specially adapted microbes flourishing, it seems, in these extreme conditions and are therefore called "extremophiles."


A. flourishing, it seems, in these extreme conditions and are
B. that seem to flourish with these extreme conditions and
C. that seem to flourish in these extreme conditions and that are
D. seeming to flourish in these extreme conditions and are
E. seeming to flourish with these extreme conditions and that are

Not 100% sure if my method here was correct or not, but I looked for parallelism and got this correct (C):

C: "(microbes) THAT seem to flourish ... THAT are called"

* I like "THAT" immediately after microbes b/c "that" refers to the microbes, so between B & C, "C" maintains parallelism.

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IMO C
We need that in the sentence so that it can refer to microbes who flourish in extreme conditions.
ADE are wrong because they use ing form of verb without main verb.
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Inhospitable places on our planet, from steaming hot springs to the thick ice of the polar regions, tend to be populated by specially adapted microbes flourishing, it seems, in these extreme conditions and are therefore called "extremophiles."

(A) flourishing, it seems, in these extreme conditions and are
(B) that seem to flourish with these extreme conditions and
(C) that seem to flourish in these extreme conditions and that are
(D) seeming to flourish in these extreme conditions and are
(E) seeming to flourish with these extreme conditions and that are



Inhospitable places tend to be populated by specially adapted microbes that xyz and that abc.

XYZ= seem to flourish in these extreme conditions
abc= are called extremophiles.


(A) microbes flourishing, it seems, in these extreme conditions and are--- parallelism is missing. Phrase [and] clause
(B) microbes that seem to flourish with these extreme conditions and---"flourish with these extreme conditions"--change in meaning. It means microbes and extreme conditions are flourishing together.
(C) microbes that seem to flourish in these extreme conditions and that are--clause [and] clause + meaning is perfect---parallelism is maintained. Correct Choice.
(D) microbes seeming to flourish in these extreme conditions and are--parallelism is missing
(E) microbes seeming to flourish with these extreme conditions and that are---repeats error of option B and D
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A. There is no subject for the verb are.

B. The preposition with changes the sentence meaning in a nonsensical way; the verb called needs to be passive because the microbes are the recipients of the name extremophiles.

C. Correct. This version clearly conveys the causal logic that the microbes are called extremophiles because of where they flourish. Also, repeating the relative pronoun that in and that are makes it clear that are refers back to microbes.

D. There is no subject for the verb are.

E. The preposition with is incorrect, as explained for B; the present participle seeming leads a reader to expect another participle instead of a relative clause after the conjunction and.
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