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I was hoping fellow GMATClubers could help me solve my dilemma. I'm a 25 year old Indian applicant with pre-MBA experience in Investment Banking and Non-Profit. Which school would you suggest I take up ?

I am aware of the obvious differences :- 1Y v/s 2Y; Europe/Asia v/s USA. Keeping that in mind let me elaborate on my preferences.

Post-MBA career goal :- Although nothing is set in stone yet, I'm leaning towards a career in Consulting or General Management.

Post-MBA Location :- I'm OK with any location.

Cost :- Cost of attending Kellogg/Booth would be 1.5 times that of INSEAD. Either way I'll be taking up a considerable loan in order to fund my education. INSEAD's 1 year program will allow me some breathing space in that matter.

Career Switch:- I'm going to be a career changer. I have absolutely no prior experience in the fields I'm looking to get into. Do you think the 1year program of INSEAD will limit my chances of doing so ?

Seniority in Position post-MBA :- Is there any discernible difference in the seniority of roles afforded to students from these colleges ?

Culture :- I'm a friendly, social person who would like a more collaborative environment as opposed to an individualistic environment.
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Insead and Kellogg clearly have the edge here. Great schools if you want to be a consultant (not that Booth wouldn't allow you to do so). I think it comes down to personal fit and financial burden. I don't think that the cost difference will matter all that much down the road, but if that is something that bothers you a lot, go to INSEAD, it's your best option in terms of ROI. A 2-year MBA in the US will give you a chance to gain experience in consulting during your internship, while Insead students graduating in July won't have that chance. If you were accepted for their January intake, you'll have the chance to do an internship, but that you already know.
I'd love my MBA experience to last as long as it could, and I love Kellogg, so I'd go there in a heartbeat. But Insead would take you the same places Kellogg would (except regarding location, you might find it harder to get a job in the US if you go to Insead).
All three would allow the career switch you're willing to make. I just didn't fell your love for Booth all that much. Am I wrong?

Best of luck with your decision, a lot of people, including yours truly, would die to be in your shoes.

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Kellogg. Since career switcher, 2 year program is best, and based on your personality, seem like you will like Kellogg more (Kellogg and Booth will place you equally well in consulting...Kellogg is a bit better known for consulting, but its more a self selection thing, with most Booth students choosing finance instead of consulting).
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Those are 3 awesome programs. I think you first need to decide whether a 1YR euro program or a 2YR US program is better suited to your needs. I can't give any perspective on INSEAD, but would say if you're down to Booth vs. Kellogg, pick wherever you feel the best connection with current/prospective students. There is no bad choice here.

Regarding Booth vs. Kellogg:

Post-MBA career goal : Either will prepare you equally well for consulting. Both place very well in consulting in general and especially into MBB. As mgh mentioned, Kellogg sends greater overall numbers, but that's largely because fewer Booth students choose to pursue consulting.

Post-MBA Location :- Any firm recruiting at Booth or Kellogg will offer almost unrestricted global flexibility.

Seniority in Position post-MBA : No difference between schools.

Culture : This an interesting one. Before I visited Booth and Kellogg, I assumed Kellogg had a much more collaborative, community-spirited environment than Booth. After visiting Kellogg and talking to friends who ended up there, I certainly believe Kellogg has this. After having completed two quarters at Booth now, I can honestly say I can't imagine a more supportive and collaborative environment. The level of collaboration and teamwork among my classmates and the level of support offered by the 2Y students is astounding.

I have a bit of bias towards Booth ;-), but both are phenomenal schools and you can't go wrong. If you have any other specific questions or want some perspective on the recruiting process (I'm headed to MBB this summer), feel free to PM me.
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A related question, what will be the advice in case one were to choose between INSEAD and Kellogg 1yr? The cost implications will be almost the same for both programs, and Kellogg will still offer all the above advantages listed. Any opinions?
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Out of the three, Booth is the best school (you can see this in absolutely every ranking). Booth places slightly lower than Kellogg in consulting, but this will change in the following years with Booth's current momentum.

Vote for Booth!
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I'd just like to remind everyone to be careful when considering "momentum"...things are just as likely to revert to the mean. If you all remember, last year everyone was expecting Booth to surpass Wharton (Which was viewed on the decline), and then this year boom, Wharton is tied with H/S for #1.
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I'd just like to remind everyone to be careful when considering "momentum"...things are just as likely to revert to the mean. If you all remember, last year everyone was expecting Booth to surpass Wharton (Which was viewed on the decline), and then this year boom, Wharton is tied with H/S for #1.


Booth still went up on the US NEWS ranking you mentioned, so the momentum continues. If you see every other ranking (including the rankings that average every single ranking, Booth has already surpassed Wharton. All three schools, Booth, Wharton, and Kellogg are great and top 5 schools, but out of the three, Booth is definetely the one on the rise.
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vote for Booth! all great schools, but Booth is definetely one step higher
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I'd just like to remind everyone to be careful when considering "momentum"...things are just as likely to revert to the mean. If you all remember, last year everyone was expecting Booth to surpass Wharton (Which was viewed on the decline), and then this year boom, Wharton is tied with H/S for #1.


Booth still went up on the US NEWS ranking you mentioned, so the momentum continues. If you see every other ranking (including the rankings that average every single ranking, Booth has already surpassed Wharton. All three schools, Booth, Wharton, and Kellogg are great and top 5 schools, but out of the three, Booth is definetely the one on the rise.


I have no skin in the game, but this is utterly myopic. Wharton is still a better program than Booth in finance, and Wharton took one of their largest consulting classes ever last year, far better percentage-wise than Booth. I didn't apply to either program; however, Wharton wins easily.

With that said (and back to the OP's question). Once you decide one year versus two year MBA (based on your goals, I'd highly suggest the two year track), then it comes down to Booth and Kellogg. Based on your goals and fit, I think Kellogg wins this fairly readily.
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I think bb might need to look into all these Booth boosters with 2-4 posts saying the same thing over and over again ("vote for Booth"). Something seems fishy here!
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I'll ask an admin to do an IP check.
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Good call kingfalcon....undecided2343, gmat245, mbaapp25 were all posted by the same IP address, they will be banned shortly."hbsgeek" also has the same IP.

Whoever you are, good job breaking the booth stereotypes *eye roll*
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Good call kingfalcon....undecided2343, gmat245, mbaapp25 were all posted by the same IP address, they will be banned shortly."hbsgeek" also has the same IP.

Whoever you are, good job breaking the booth stereotypes *eye roll*


Good call. I wonder though, however unlikely, that these could be different people sitting in the same cyber cafe? Like a bunch of friends. Any possibility to check on this? Though the simplest answer is usually the right one......

Vote for Kellogg btw... career goals best met there in this case...
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Good call kingfalcon....undecided2343, gmat245, mbaapp25 were all posted by the same IP address, they will be banned shortly."hbsgeek" also has the same IP.

Whoever you are, good job breaking the booth stereotypes *eye roll*


Good call. I wonder though, however unlikely, that these could be different people sitting in the same cyber cafe? Like a bunch of friends. Any possibility to check on this? Though the simplest answer is usually the right one......

Vote for Kellogg btw... career goals best met there in this case...


I doubt that is the case and this is pretty sad. Booth, you can do better than this.
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Booth, you can do better than this.


Easy there tiger. There is no way this had anything to do with Booth as an institution. Having gone to an undergrad that also draws them out, I find that fanboys like this are often not even students at the schools they promote.
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I really don't think you can compare Booth & Kellogg with INSEAD. Booth and Kellogg are top US schools which can get you a good job in US, even an M/B/B consulting job, if you have the profile and competence. Please check out their placements.
INSEAD on the other hand is an equally good B-school, very well known in Europe and Singapore but not so well known in US. It has an excellent placement record in consulting (But I am not sure whether the placement record is equally good in the case of Indian students of INSEAD)!

You have to think through more carefully about your career goals to make the right choice, in the event that that you will have a such an opportunity to choose. If you want to work in US post-MBA, hands down it is Kellogg or Booth, nothing much to choose between them, except for their pedagogy. Kellogg's pedagogy and student clubs, I am told, are able to provide better support for case prep, which helps in getting into consulting companies. If you wish to work outside US, Booth/ Kellogg may not be the most appropriate schools.Only a small % of graduates from these schools get placed outside of USA.
If you aim to work in Singapore, I believe INSEAD would be more to your advantage, given their base in Singapore and local network. One year course is not such a disadvantage for consulting jobs and nearly 30% or more INSEAD graduates take up consulting jobs. Costs are also some what lower at INSEAD than at Booth/ Kellogg. But I think that is less important than your career choice. If you want to get into IB/ IM etc., you are better off with a two year programme.

There are also other issues you need to think through. Approximately 35 to 40 Indians get admitted to Kellogg or Booth and most of them find reasonably good jobs in US.
100 or more Indians get admitted to INSEAD and most of them aspire to get jobs abroad and very few wish to go back to India. I don't have concrete information, but anecdotally I have come to know that INSEAD's placements are not all that great, particulalrly in the case of Indians. Unless you are a very strong candidate, in my view, you will be better off going to Kelloggg/ Booth, from a post-MBA career point of view, provided that you are indifferent to location in terms of your post-MBA career.
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I was hoping fellow GMATClubers could help me solve my dilemma. I'm a 25 year old Indian applicant with pre-MBA experience in Investment Banking and Non-Profit. Which school would you suggest I take up ?

I am aware of the obvious differences :- 1Y v/s 2Y; Europe/Asia v/s USA. Keeping that in mind let me elaborate on my preferences.

Post-MBA career goal :- Although nothing is set in stone yet, I'm leaning towards a career in Consulting or General Management.

Post-MBA Location :- I'm OK with any location.

Cost :- Cost of attending Kellogg/Booth would be 1.5 times that of INSEAD. Either way I'll be taking up a considerable loan in order to fund my education. INSEAD's 1 year program will allow me some breathing space in that matter.

Career Switch:- I'm going to be a career changer. I have absolutely no prior experience in the fields I'm looking to get into. Do you think the 1year program of INSEAD will limit my chances of doing so ?

Seniority in Position post-MBA :- Is there any discernible difference in the seniority of roles afforded to students from these colleges ?

Culture :- I'm a friendly, social person who would like a more collaborative environment as opposed to an individualistic environment.
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I can not speak to INSEAD but I go to Booth and my significant other of several years goes to Kellogg. While my opinion is definitely biased I believe I have a unique perspective.

First, I can never understand where this perception comes from that Booth is individualistic. The culture at the school is the furthest thing from that. At both schools you will have a working group for every class. I repeat, every class. The only difference is at Kellogg many of your groups will be assigned by the professor while at Booth you are encouraged to choose your own.

If by community, however, you are looking for more of a college/campus feel then Kellogg provides that in a very fun and centralized way.

With reference to consulting, both my significant other an I recruited for consulting and received offers. The career center at Booth blows Kellogg out of the water with the support it offers. Kellogg's student group provides most of the support but truly does a good job. Numbers at top firms are close to 50/50 for the two schools. Higher numbers of people from Kellogg recruit for consulting though so you may want to consider your competition level.

Back to being unbiased, you truly can't make a bad decision. Both are phenomenal schools filled with fun, bright individuals and both will open more doors than you can imagine.

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I'm curious to the answer to this question..
Any1 has any opinion?


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A related question, what will be the advice in case one were to choose between INSEAD and Kellogg 1yr? The cost implications will be almost the same for both programs, and Kellogg will still offer all the above advantages listed. Any opinions?
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Rohit6 wrote:
I'm curious to the answer to this question..
Any1 has any opinion?


pritishbhaskar wrote:
A related question, what will be the advice in case one were to choose between INSEAD and Kellogg 1yr? The cost implications will be almost the same for both programs, and Kellogg will still offer all the above advantages listed. Any opinions?


Insead vs Kellogg?
Many differences. The immediate would be location - US vs. Europe and Asia. It will be hard to recruit in the US from INSEAD as the name is not well known and not many alums around, plus the issue with Visa/Work permit will stop you dead in your tracks. Kellogg on the other hand has a great international and domestic reach.

The classes and curriculum are very different.

INSEAD throws some amazing parties in all kinds of amazing locations - just search on youtube, while you will be freezing your tail off in Chicago.

Both are 1-year programs which means you will be recruiting from day 2. Kellogg is pretty good about publishing stats and details... INSEAD on the other hand discloses nothing but it seems the alums do well. Both schools are strong in consulting and ranked high, but as mentioned, Kellogg's reputation is greater.

How is this for a quick one?
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