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Oh, regarding deposits I would think that deposit for all admits are due around the same date regardless of admit notification. But I'm not exactly sure and would probably be a good question to ask admissions.

From last year it appears that admit calls went out starting the day before the decision date and the website:
https://www.johnson.cornell.edu/Full-Time-MBA/Admissions/Important-Dates
indicates that final decisions will be posted by noon on the portal.

Out of curiosity, why would a deposit deadline matter much at this point to you?

I have to put a deposit down at Fuqua by 12/2 (Early Action) and am trying to figure out what if any schools I will hear back from by then.

How does it matter? Fuqua's Early Action round is binding, 'innit?

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I have to put a deposit down at Fuqua by 12/2 (Early Action) and am trying to figure out what if any schools I will hear back from by then.

How does it matter? Fuqua's Early Action round is binding, 'innit?

Nothing is binding until a deposit is put down, and even so that is only 3K which is not much in the grand scheme of things

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1. Have you done deep research into MBA programs, including speaking to alumni and current students?

In applying during the Early Action round, you are committing to attend Fuqua if admitted, including withdrawing any applications to other programs and paying the $3,000 tuition deposit within a few weeks of admission. You should, therefore, feel absolutely confident based on your research about programs and connecting with members of the Fuqua community, that Fuqua is where you belong for the next two years, and for a lifetime as an alumnus/a.

From: https://blogs.fuqua.duke.edu/duke-mba/2012/08/31/admissions-megan-overbay/is-early-action-right-for-me?category=admissions#.VFfCnTTF98E

No offense or anything, but it appears that they expect you to withdraw. Although technically they can't force you to do anything and ultimately you do want to go to the "right" program due to the large financial commitment.

Speaking for the rest of us applicants out there, I don't think it's really fair to us that we're "competing" for spots against you since you've "committed" to another program. If Johnson was a better program for you, then you should have applied to Fuqua regular decision. You may have unfairly taken a spot away from another early action applicant that had Fuqua as their true #1 choice.

I'm not trying to sound like the "application police" or anything here, but I just wanted to make sure you saw the implications for the poor borderline applicant that was deferred or waitlisted to Fuqua.

I may be biased here as I was dinged from CBS early decision, however I applied ED there with the full intention of withdrawing all other applications upon acceptance. Also, I was an ED for undergrad and I withdrew my applications upon being accepted...

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Nothing is binding until a deposit is put down, and even so that is only 3K which is not much in the grand scheme of things

You might want to go through the Early Action Certification you signed in your application.
It says - "If admitted to The Duke MBA through the Early Decision program, I will matriculate at Duke in the 2015 entering class. I agree to immediately withdraw all applications that I have filed to other business schools and to file no new applications if admitted to Duke as an Early Decision candidate."

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Wow man, you are applying to a lot of schools and a big range too! Puts me to shame, and I cheated by using the Consortium 8-)

After getting dinged twice last year my outlook changed lol

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I appreciate your concern and I'm glad you spent your lunch hour researching my personal situation, which you do not know much about. I also appreciate you trolling me on the fuqua thread, perhaps if you spent your time focusing on elements of your candidacy that you control, rather than worrying about others you would be admitted somewhere already. Consider this your first lesson in business, engineer.

Anecdotally, I believe you sign an agreement when you get a drivers license that you will not speed, do you not?

https://gmatclub.com/forum/calling-all-duke-fuqua-applicants-2015-intake-class-of-173112-440.html

Your welcome, however I did not spend my lunch researching your "personal situation". Rather I spent my lunch researching a controversial topic which I find fascinating. I don't mind spending my personal time learning more about things I don't typically come across. It helps expand my perspective.

I also don't mean to disappoint you again, but I also didn't "troll" you on the fuqua thread. I was merely trying to reach a relevant audience for a topic I feel should be discussed within this community. I also posted something in the CBS thread to get their opinions as well because that is the only other school I could think of that has an ED/EA round.

Ethical dilemmas such as these come about all the time and I am not claiming to be right or wrong in this situation, only requesting that it be discussed. I think that it is good and necessary that issues such as these are discussed so that we better understand the expectations of the community and society. It can help us determine what is considered "proper" conduct in the eyes of our peers. Business is filled with ethically "grey" scenarios such as these and how we deal with these situations is becoming more vital. Perhaps it would be a good business lesson for us all to reflect on our conduct as applicants.

As for me, I've already done all that I can (I think?) and the rest is in control of the admissions committee. I merely peruse this forum to pass the time while I wait for admissions committees to peruse my application. Honestly, there's no need to get nasty here. We're all in the same boat.

Lastly, I do try to follow traffic laws when I drive however there are uniformed policed officers out there to enforce them. In business school applications there are none

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yankees2009, sorry but it can only be a lesson if you're a douchebag. Although I see your point, you're still unethical douchebag whose offer of admission at Duke should be revoked. Btw, to make it a lesson for you, I'll provide the Duke adcome with a link to this thread, your ways of interpreting statements that you've signed, and the way you treat your fellow applicants. Sure they're going to love to learn a bit more about you.

P.S. You can bet your ass, it won't be a big problem to figure out your real ID :roll:

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Thats a very harsh comment by an MBA applicant who has probably mentioned about being a good team member in his/her apps. I guess it is yankees prerogative to decide what he wants to do with his offer not yours!

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Oh, thank you! God bless you!

Well, thank you for talking about my candidacy, but we're not talking about me. Aren't we? Although I can say that I'm a team player (I did not explicitly mentioned in my app though), I don't play nice with cheaters, douchebags, and other scum that can't keep their words. There is nothing personal, but I stand by my words. yankees2009 not only a liar, but also is a very arrogant "man". So, he should be punished for his arrogance.

P.S.yankees2009, just as promised, I shared with Duke and Johnson's admission offices a link and added a small note about the way they can track you down.

"Consider it your first business lesson..." (yankees2009)

Cheers!

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I appreciate the sentiment Dontask, but I agree with mbathisyear in that it is up to yankees2009 to decide what he ultimately does with his offer. I think the early application commitment only ties one ethically however if one chooses to act unethically we cannot help it. It is something that is unfortunately prevalent in today's business world as well and we almost just have to accept it and act accordingly.

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dtse86,

It was not about you. I've observed a lot of people on this board who act in the same way the previously mentioned person does. While I agree that its their own choice and right and I don't have anything against it. But, I do have a problem when people start to act pretty questionably to say the least. He acted quite arrogantly, and this is something I don't like to see nor do I want to encounter such behavior in my job, school, etc. He could keep his mouth shut. He chose otherwise, which is okay. But I assume we're all grown ups and realize potential consequences of our actions. So, he "taught" you a lesson, and I decided that such care should not be left without a payback.
Although I doubt that Duke is going to revoke its offer of admission, but at least Johnson will know much more about the guy they are considering.

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Thanks Dontask

I was actually thinking I'm glad now that I chose not to apply to Duke! And I really hope I don't ever run into yankees2009 in my professional career.

It is unfortunate that people with those kinds of attitudes and ethics get into top business schools and end up in positions where they abuse their power wrongfully (Jeffery Skilling anyone?).

But it does increase my desire to go to a top business school even more because it makes me believe that I can perhaps change their minds/attitudes through spirited debates in a more "effective medium" (perhaps a classroom or team discussion).

Dontask, I hope that we do get to meet this application season, I would enjoy discussing yankees2009 over a cup of coffee or something at CTB in collegetown maybe!

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Well, if it happens and we do meet, I'd prefer to talk about something more interesting than yankees2009. Don't really see any point in wasting even more time on this matter.
Fortunately, the world has a lot of topics to think and talk about.

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This is not an appropriate conduct in most places and it does violate the rules of the GMAT Club Forum https://gmatclub.com/wiki/GMATClub:Rules
There is a healthy debate, a healthy disagreement, and then there is out of control stuff. The topic is indeed very fascinating and highly debatable but the borders of debate have been crossed. User Dontask has been deactivated for taking it too far.

P.S. Knowing schools and having worked with many admissions teams - they have a long way to go in enforcement of anything. There are certain things they do well but at the same time, they are not very good at tracking things. Booth had been trying to crack Rhyme's cover for years and he has 5,000+ posts. They did it by pure accident - he blew his cover himself :-)

Please keep in mind that this does not mean I approve of the decision that some of the members are reaching here and the controversy surrounding early action.
Also, please keep in mind that Dontask registered a day ago - and probably with a purpose. This user may return under a different username and a different IP address.

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I apologize if things seemed to get out of control.

As an ED applicant this year and an ED applicant in undergrad I find the arguments of either side fascinating and only continued the topic for the purpose of debate (thus the reason for another thread).

For now, let's get back to the topic on hand, 2 more days till initial notification...

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Ethics is a thing that has exclusively personal nature, that is each individual should decide by himself what is ethical and what is not.
Highly recommend to read "Ethics for the Real World: Creating a Personal Code to Guide Decisions in Work and Life" by Ronald Howard and Clinton Korver.
Also, I believe that each of us should follow his own way. It really does not matter whether somebody is cheating or not; if you are worth anything you will surely find the way. In addition, we should remember about natural selection - wins the fittest, not the "slyest" or "smartest".

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Dang, drama with yankees2009. Although I don't agree with reporting him, it was pretty unethical and unfair what he was doing for the rest of us.

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1 more day remaining, best of luck to all of us!!!

The universe always unfolds the way it should, so, relax, have a beer and enjoy the fireworks bud!