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Isn't there ellipsis applicable for comparison in choice B


There is an error of ellipsis in choice B.

B mentions - Laos has a land area about of about the same size as Great Britain is

The missing link (the ellipsis) part over here is "land area". The sentence - Great Britain is land area - is non sensical and incorrect.

The usage "Great britain has" would have been correct (w.r.t ellipsis)

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Hi EGMAT!

Can you please help me with answer d ? Why exactly is e right and d wrong??

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Hi dp26389,
Thank you for the query. :)


Let’s first take a look at option D:

Laos has a land area comparable to the size of Great Britain, but only four million in population,
• and many are members of hill tribes ensconced in the virtually inaccessible mountain valleys of the north.

ERRORS

1. This sentence illogically compares “a land area” to “the size of Great Britain”. As we know, the compared entities should be logically as well as grammatically parallel. So, we need to compare “land area” of one country to “land area” of another country.
2. The fact that most of the population of Laos lives in mountain valleys is mentioned as a modifier in the original sentence, and the main point of the sentence is to convey the contrast between the land sizes and populations of two countries. However, by using “comma + and” to connect the two clauses, this sentence makes the second clause “many are….” an independent clause, and hence attaches an undue importance to this fact.
3. This sentence has a fragment. Note that Comma + but indicates presence of an independent clause. However, 'but only four million in population' does not have the subject – verb pair. Ideally there should not be any comma prior to “but” for it to be grammatically correct sentence.
4. It's not clear what "many" refers to.


Now, let’s take a look at option E:

Laos has a land area comparable to that of Great Britain but a population of only four million people,
o many of whom are members of hill tribes ensconced in the virtually inaccessible mountain valleys of the north.

1. This choice has correct idiom comparing “the land area” of Laos to “that (= land area) of Great Britain”.
2. “a population of only four million” is parallel to “a land…”. Notice that “has” is understood before “a population…” to avoid repetition.
3. Relative pronoun “whom” is correct to refer to “people”.

Hope this helps! :)
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Also if we notice the usage of "as" in options A , B and C. As is followed by a noun(As+noun) which represents role not comparison.

Experts please validate.


Hi, I am not an expert. But I can tell you that the usage of "as" is not a problem.
[comparison "as" + noun] is not necessarily wrong. For example, I run as fast as you.
We can eliminate words after "as" as long as there is no amibiguity issue.
I eat more apples than you eat/do. --->correct.
I eat more apples than you. ---> no ambiguity issue.
Leopards eat more chiken than foxes. --->incorrect. the comparison is between 1) the amount of chicken eaten by leopards and the amount of chicken eaten by foxes
OR 2) the amount of chicken eaten by leopards and the amount of foxes eaten by leopards?
Leopards eat more chicken than they eat/do foxes. --->no ambiguity issue.
Leopards eat more chicken than foxes eat/do. --->no ambiguity issue.
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Laos has a land area about the same as Great Britain but only four million in population, where many are members of hill tribes ensconced in the virtually inaccessible mountain vallyes of the north.

First we have to understand that this sentence has two lines: the size and the population. There is a slight contrast: large size but small population. The writer also provides some additional information about the size (as large as great britain) and population (living condition of its residents).

A) about the same as Great Britain but only four million in population, where many
*four million in population is an incorrect expression
*Laos has X but Y
X=a land area about the same...
Y=only four million in population
X and Y constitute an unparallel structure
*wrong comparison: what exactly of Laos' land area is about the same as great britain?
*the referent of "many" is unclear
*the antecedent of "where" is incorrect. literally "where" refers to population. but the use of "where" to modify "population" is incorrect because "where" clause can only modify a place. even if "where" refers to Laos, it distorts the intended meaning. the information about Laos' residents should be connected with population.


B) of about the same size as Great Britain is, but in Laos there is a population of only four million, and many
*the construction of this version looks like:
Laos has X, but Y
X=a sentence about its size
Y=a sentence about its population
it seems okay, but you can tell that the contrast between size and population is not as obvious as the original version. if you substitute "and" with "but", you may find that the complete sentence looks just fine. that is not what we want.
*wrong comparison: Laos has a land area (that is) of about the same size as great britain is. we either compare land areas or compare Laos and great britain.
*phrasing "in Laos there is a population of...." is wordy.
*the connection between information of residents and population is broken because of the use of "and"
*referent of "many" is unclear


C) that is about the same size as Great Britain's land area, but in Laos with a population of only four million people, many of them
*comparison not good enough: this is a comparison between land area, but we can improve it by using "that of great britain", also the whole phrasing is not concise
*the same problem of construction as in (B)
*phrasing "in laos with a population..." is pretty awkward
*"them" refers to four million people, and the sentence goes like:
with a population of 4m people, many of the 4m people....--->ugly and makes no sense.


D) comparable to the size of Great Britain, but only four million in population, and many
*wrong comparison: land area vs. size of great britain
*unparallel and ungrammatical structure: laos has X, but Y
X=a land area
Y=only 4m in population
X and Y are not parallel
the insertion of a comma before "but" is incorrect
*the expression of 4m in population is wrong
*the referent of "many" is unclear
*the connection between residents and population is broken by "and"


E) comparable to that of Great Britain but a population of only four million people, many of whom
correct
correct comparison, conciseness, correct parallelism

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Laos has a land area about the same as Great Britain but only four million in population, where many are members of hill tribes ensconced in the virtually inaccessible mountain vallyes of the north.



Comparison: Area of Laos and area of GB is compared.
Contrast: BUT is used to show the contrast that AREA is same but population only 4 million. many of these are member of hill tribes.


A) about the same as Great Britain but only four million in population, where many
Mistake:1- wrong comparison: AREA compared with country-- "Area about same as GB."
Mistake:2- where refers to a place. so if we replace where with LAOS then meaning is completely destroyed.

B) of about the same size as Great Britain is, but in Laos there is a population of only four million, and many
Mistake:1 "GB is". here 'is' is not required.
Mistake:2 'and many' is incorrect. many of whom or many of these is proper use here.
Mistake:3 on the gorunds of brevity this sentence would fail completely. "LAOS HAS...... BUT IN LAOS there is A population.." Improper construction .

C) that is about the same size as Great Britain's land area, but in Laos with a population of only four million people, many of them
Mistake1: wrong use of possessive pronoun here. we dont require 'land area' after GB's.
Mistake2: same as mistake3 of choice B.

D) comparable to the size of Great Britain, but only four million in population, and many
Mistake1: same as mistake2 of choice B.
Mistake2: Area comparable to the size of GB. this is not correct. because we dont know the dimension of size here. is it length, width OF AREA. so wrong comparison here again.

E) comparable to that of Great Britain but a population of only four million people, many of whom correct.
1. GMAT likes this construction for comparison :"AREA comparable to that of GB". because this is clear, error free and concise.
2. many of whom referes of four million people. correct.
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Can someone please explain me the correct usage of "whom" in this context?
I know the differentiation between "whom" and "who".

Who: you refer to a subject: I talked to a friend who worked for the company. (The friend is subject of the second clause).

Whom: you refer to an object: Jones is the man whom I played football with last summer. (I played football with him.) (Jones is object).

Can't I transfer this approach to the differentiation between "whom" and "them"? But then "whom" is the doer in the above example and consequently I would prefer "them"?

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SPLIT1) COMPARISONS. IN A YOU ARE COMPARING THE NATION OF GREAT BRITAIN WITH THE LAND AREA OF LAOS. WRONG COMPARISON.

SPLIT2) INDIRECT WORDING USED IN B. YOU HAVE "BUT IN LAOS THERE IS A POPULATION OF" THIS IS WORDY AND INDIRECT. GMAT WILL NOT LIKE IT. B IS OUT.

SPLIT3) AWFULLY WORDY: "THAT IS ABOUT THE SAME SIZE AS..." AND "LAOS WITH A POPULATION OF ONLY.." IS TOO WORDY. PLUS. THE USE OF THE WORD "THEM" WHICH IS UNCLEAR. C IS OUT.

SPLIT4) WORD "AND". YOU WNAT TO CREATE A LITTLE BIT OF CONTRAST (THAT THE LAND AREA IS DIFFERENT), THE WORD AND DOES NOT INDICATE CONTRAST. YOU NEED WORD "BUT" TO MAKE CLEAR THE CONTRAST.

SPLIT5) THE WORD "WHERE" IN A IS WRONG BECAUSE YOU ARE REFERRING TO PEOPLE AND "WHERE" IS TALKING ABOUT A NOUN PLACE. A IS OUT.

SPLIT6) BETWEEN D AN E. WORD CONSTRUCTION: "COMPARABLE TO THE SIZE" VS "COMPARABLE TO THAT OF". THE LATTER IS MORE IS A MORE CLEAR FORM OF COMPARISON. D IS OUT.

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Laos has a land area about the same as Great Britain but only four million in population, where many are members of hill tribes ensconced in the virtually inaccessible mountain vallyes of the north.
A) about the same as Great Britain but only four million in population, where many
B) of about the same size as Great Britain is, but in Laos there is a population of only four million, and many
C) that is about the same size as Great Britain's land area, but in Laos with a population of only four million people, many of them
D) comparable to the size of Great Britain, but only four million in population, and many
E) comparable to that of Great Britain but a population of only four million people, many of whom

as per the meaning of the sentence
Land area of X is compared to land area of Y
A ,B,D instant elimination

In C
Laos has a land area.(some place).....but many of them(people)

E is the best answer

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Could someone please explain to me why the usage of 'but' is wrong in option C?

The form [comma] + but connects two independent clauses, so how is the usage incorrect here?

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As per the meaning of the sentence, we are comparing Land area of one country to that of another. Also, We are trying to convey that although Laos has the comparable land area but its population is less.

So, Option E clearly does that.

But in option C, we are comparing land area of one country to the size of land area of another country. It also changes the meaning of the sentence but making use of those independent clauses like you mentioned.

So, obviously we would reject this option when we have E in place.
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Laos has a land area about the same as Great Britain but only four million in population, where many are members of hill tribes ensconced in the virtually inaccessible mountain vallyes of the north.

A) about the same as Great Britain but only four million in population, where many

B) of about the same size as Great Britain is, but in Laos there is a population of only four million, and many

C) that is about the same size as Great Britain's land area, but in Laos with a population of only four million people, many of them

D) comparable to the size of Great Britain, but only four million in population , and many

E) comparable to that of Great Britain but a population of only four million people, many of whom
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Laos has a land area about the same as Great Britain but only four million in population, where many are members of hill tribes ensconced in the virtually inaccessible mountain vallyes of the north.
A) about the same as Great Britain but only four million in population, where many
B) of about the same size as Great Britain is, but in Laos there is a population of only four million, and many
C) that is about the same size as Great Britain's land area, but in Laos with a population of only four million people, many of them
D) comparable to the size of Great Britain, but only four million in population, and many
E) comparable to that of Great Britain but a population of only four million people, many of whom

[Reveal] Spoiler: Doubt
Correct answer is E. I chose D, and I don't quite understand why E is better than D.

The explanation offered says "the coordinating conjunction and gives undue emphasis to the claim that many of the people in Laos live in inaccessible places." Isn't this a fact in all answers?

Any help would be greatly appreciated.


A "Land area" is illogically and incorrectly compared to "Great Britain."
B "Land area" is illogically and incorrect compared to "size."
C "Land area" is illogically and incorrect compared to "size."
D "Land area" is illogically and incorrect compared to "size."
E Correct.

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Laos has a land area about the same as Great Britain but only four million in population, where many are members of hill tribes ensconced in the virtually inaccessible mountain vallyes of the north.
A) about the same as Great Britain but only four million in population, where many
B) of about the same size as Great Britain is, but in Laos there is a population of only four million, and many
C) that is about the same size as Great Britain's land area, but in Laos with a population of only four million people, many of them
D) comparable to the size of Great Britain, but only four million in population, and many
E) comparable to that of Great Britain but a population of only four million people, many of whom

Hi RonPurewal,
Hope you are well. I was totally detached from my study because of my illness (suffering Ulcer) for last 2 months. So, for that reason, I can't make any communication with you via email. So, sorry for that one. Anyway, I'm very glad hearing from SarahPurewal that you're in the GMATclub. Now, We can get help about the Official Question-there is no restriction about the Official Question, at least here!

I've a query about option E.
How do someone be convinced ''that of'' refers to the ''land area'' of Great Britain?
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Shall we look at it from a different angle?
A uses a wrong relative pronoun ‘where’ to modify population – reject
B, C, D compare land area with size, rather than another area. Reject all of them in single stroke.
E is left. E compares land area to another land area with the expression ‘that of’ – right choice

+1 from me.
Very simple yet elegant description !!

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