Last visit was: 15 May 2025, 18:10 It is currently 15 May 2025, 18:10
Close
GMAT Club Daily Prep
Thank you for using the timer - this advanced tool can estimate your performance and suggest more practice questions. We have subscribed you to Daily Prep Questions via email.

Customized
for You

we will pick new questions that match your level based on your Timer History

Track
Your Progress

every week, we’ll send you an estimated GMAT score based on your performance

Practice
Pays

we will pick new questions that match your level based on your Timer History
Not interested in getting valuable practice questions and articles delivered to your email? No problem, unsubscribe here.
Close
Request Expert Reply
Confirm Cancel
User avatar
Bunuel
User avatar
Math Expert
Joined: 02 Sep 2009
Last visit: 15 May 2025
Posts: 101,447
Own Kudos:
Given Kudos: 93,517
Products:
Expert
Expert reply
Active GMAT Club Expert! Tag them with @ followed by their username for a faster response.
Posts: 101,447
Kudos: 724,504
 [13]
1
Kudos
Add Kudos
12
Bookmarks
Bookmark this Post
User avatar
Bunuel
User avatar
Math Expert
Joined: 02 Sep 2009
Last visit: 15 May 2025
Posts: 101,447
Own Kudos:
724,504
 [1]
Given Kudos: 93,517
Products:
Expert
Expert reply
Active GMAT Club Expert! Tag them with @ followed by their username for a faster response.
Posts: 101,447
Kudos: 724,504
 [1]
Kudos
Add Kudos
1
Bookmarks
Bookmark this Post
avatar
karant
Joined: 26 Apr 2012
Last visit: 28 Jan 2020
Posts: 75
Own Kudos:
Given Kudos: 75
Location: India
Concentration: Entrepreneurship, General Management
GMAT 1: 640 Q48 V29
GMAT 2: 660 Q45 V35
GMAT 3: 680 Q48 V35
GPA: 2.8
WE:Information Technology (Computer Software)
Products:
GMAT 3: 680 Q48 V35
Posts: 75
Kudos: 24
Kudos
Add Kudos
Bookmarks
Bookmark this Post
User avatar
Bunuel
User avatar
Math Expert
Joined: 02 Sep 2009
Last visit: 15 May 2025
Posts: 101,447
Own Kudos:
Given Kudos: 93,517
Products:
Expert
Expert reply
Active GMAT Club Expert! Tag them with @ followed by their username for a faster response.
Posts: 101,447
Kudos: 724,504
Kudos
Add Kudos
Bookmarks
Bookmark this Post
karant
Hi Bunuel,

I tried to solve the question with another approach but it seems to be wrong.

I tried to count the no of cases
The no of cases whose sum is greater than 7 when 2 is included : (2,6) , (2,8) , (2,10) = 3
The no of cases whose sum is greater than 7 when 4 is included : (4,6) , (4,8) , (4,10) = 3
The no of cases whose sum is greater than 7 when 6 is included : (6,4), (6,8) , (6,10) = 3
The no of cases whose sum is greater than 7 when 8 is included : (8,2), (8,4), (8,6), (8,10) = 4
The no of cases whose sum is greater than 7 when 10 is included :(10,2),(10,4),(10,6),(10,8)= 4

So total cases = 3+3+3+4+4 = 17.

And total number of outcomes can be calculated as 5C2.

Please help where I am going wrong ? Is 2,8 and 8,2 one case ?

Thanks

1. You are missing (6, 2) case there. This will make the number of favorable outcomes equal to 18.
2. The total number of outcomes is 5*4 = 20, not 10. 5 options for first number and 4 options for the second number.

Thus, P = 18/20 = 9/10.

Hope it's clear.
User avatar
sidoknowia
Joined: 18 Jun 2016
Last visit: 02 Jun 2017
Posts: 72
Own Kudos:
101
 [1]
Given Kudos: 74
Location: India
Concentration: Technology, Entrepreneurship
GMAT 1: 700 Q49 V36
WE:Business Development (Computer Software)
Products:
GMAT 1: 700 Q49 V36
Posts: 72
Kudos: 101
 [1]
Kudos
Add Kudos
1
Bookmarks
Bookmark this Post
Bunuel
Official Solution:

If a bin contains five cards numbered 2, 4, 6, 8, and 10, what is the probability that the sum of the numbers on two cards, randomly drawn together from the bin, will be greater than 7?

A. \(\frac{1}{2}\)
B. \(\frac{3}{4}\)
C. \(\frac{4}{5}\)
D. \(\frac{9}{10}\)
E. \(\frac{19}{20}\)

In only one outcome, when cards with 2 and 4 are selected, the sum will not be greater than 7. The probability of drawing 2 and 4 \(= \frac{1}{5}*\frac{1}{4} + \frac{1}{5}*\frac{1}{4} = \frac{1}{10}\) (2 and 4 can be drawn in a different order). The answer to the question is \(1 - \frac{1}{10} = \frac{9}{10}\).

Answer: D



Hi,

What I tried was
there are 10 ways to choose 2 cards from 5. Ot these choices only 2 gives sum less than 7.
2 & 4 or 4&2

so probability of those choices is 2/10 = 1/5
hence probability of getting sum > 7 is 1-1/5 = 4/5

Can you please tell me, where I'm going wrong?
User avatar
Bunuel
User avatar
Math Expert
Joined: 02 Sep 2009
Last visit: 15 May 2025
Posts: 101,447
Own Kudos:
724,504
 [1]
Given Kudos: 93,517
Products:
Expert
Expert reply
Active GMAT Club Expert! Tag them with @ followed by their username for a faster response.
Posts: 101,447
Kudos: 724,504
 [1]
1
Kudos
Add Kudos
Bookmarks
Bookmark this Post
sidoknowia
Bunuel
Official Solution:

If a bin contains five cards numbered 2, 4, 6, 8, and 10, what is the probability that the sum of the numbers on two cards, randomly drawn together from the bin, will be greater than 7?

A. \(\frac{1}{2}\)
B. \(\frac{3}{4}\)
C. \(\frac{4}{5}\)
D. \(\frac{9}{10}\)
E. \(\frac{19}{20}\)

In only one outcome, when cards with 2 and 4 are selected, the sum will not be greater than 7. The probability of drawing 2 and 4 \(= \frac{1}{5}*\frac{1}{4} + \frac{1}{5}*\frac{1}{4} = \frac{1}{10}\) (2 and 4 can be drawn in a different order). The answer to the question is \(1 - \frac{1}{10} = \frac{9}{10}\).

Answer: D



Hi,

What I tried was
there are 10 ways to choose 2 cards from 5. Ot these choices only 2 gives sum less than 7.
2 & 4 or 4&2

so probability of those choices is 2/10 = 1/5
hence probability of getting sum > 7 is 1-1/5 = 4/5

Can you please tell me, where I'm going wrong?

In the first case you count groups of two so in the second case you also should count in groups of two. So, 2 and 4 is only one group. 1 - 1/10 = 9/10.
User avatar
axezcole
Joined: 25 Apr 2018
Last visit: 19 Apr 2022
Posts: 49
Own Kudos:
Given Kudos: 48
Location: India
Concentration: Finance, Technology
GMAT 1: 600 Q47 V25
Products:
GMAT 1: 600 Q47 V25
Posts: 49
Kudos: 318
Kudos
Add Kudos
Bookmarks
Bookmark this Post
Is the word numbered a hint to use permutation?

Can any expert tell me when to decide whether order is imp or not?

Explaining a few cases would help me a lot.


Bunuel, chetan2u, GMATPrepNow, MartyTargetTestPrep, ScottTargetTestPrep, VeritasKarishma
User avatar
ScottTargetTestPrep
User avatar
Target Test Prep Representative
Joined: 14 Oct 2015
Last visit: 15 May 2025
Posts: 20,764
Own Kudos:
Given Kudos: 292
Status:Founder & CEO
Affiliations: Target Test Prep
Location: United States (CA)
Expert
Expert reply
Active GMAT Club Expert! Tag them with @ followed by their username for a faster response.
Posts: 20,764
Kudos: 25,829
Kudos
Add Kudos
Bookmarks
Bookmark this Post
axezcole
Is the word numbered a hint to use permutation?

Can any expert tell me when to decide whether order is imp or not?

Explaining a few cases would help me a lot.


Bunuel, chetan2u, GMATPrepNow, MartyTargetTestPrep, ScottTargetTestPrep, VeritasKarishma

Since there's no replacement in this problem, it does not matter which method you use for this question; it can be considered as either a combination problem or a permutation problem (hence the same answer for both methods).

If you interpret the experiment as drawing the first card from a total of five and then drawing another card from the remaining four, the problem becomes a permuation problem. In this interpretation, drawing a 2 first and an 8 next is different from the outcome of drawing an 8 first and a 2 next.

If, on the other hand, you interpret the experiment as drawing two cards at the same time from the total of five, then the question becomes a combination problem. When the two cards you draw are a 2 and an 8, that's a single outcome as you draw the two cards at the same time.

In the first interpretation, the total number of outcomes and the number of favorable outcomes are multiplied by two; since each outcome can happen in exactly two ways (such as (2, 8) or (8, 2)). That's why the probability we need to calculate will be the same regardless of whether we use the first interpretation or the second interpretation.

Had there been replacement, it would have not worked out like above. With replacement, you also need to take into account outcomes of (2, 2), (4, 4) etc.; thus you could no longer use the combination method.

It is also interesting to think about how would each method work if you picked not two but three cards.
User avatar
Bunuel
User avatar
Math Expert
Joined: 02 Sep 2009
Last visit: 15 May 2025
Posts: 101,447
Own Kudos:
Given Kudos: 93,517
Products:
Expert
Expert reply
Active GMAT Club Expert! Tag them with @ followed by their username for a faster response.
Posts: 101,447
Kudos: 724,504
Kudos
Add Kudos
Bookmarks
Bookmark this Post
I have edited the question and the solution by adding more details to enhance its clarity. I hope it is now easier to understand.
User avatar
shubhamagarwal44
Joined: 05 May 2024
Last visit: 15 May 2025
Posts: 7
Own Kudos:
Given Kudos: 1
Products:
Posts: 7
Kudos: 2
Kudos
Add Kudos
Bookmarks
Bookmark this Post
Can someone please help how we can solve this using combination? I tried doing this -> 1 minus probability of picking 2 & 4.

So 5C1 * 4C1 / 5C2 - but clearly this is wrong. Please help.
User avatar
Bunuel
User avatar
Math Expert
Joined: 02 Sep 2009
Last visit: 15 May 2025
Posts: 101,447
Own Kudos:
Given Kudos: 93,517
Products:
Expert
Expert reply
Active GMAT Club Expert! Tag them with @ followed by their username for a faster response.
Posts: 101,447
Kudos: 724,504
Kudos
Add Kudos
Bookmarks
Bookmark this Post
shubhamagarwal44
Can someone please help how we can solve this using combination? I tried doing this -> 1 minus probability of picking 2 & 4.

So 5C1 * 4C1 / 5C2 - but clearly this is wrong. Please help.

You're right to subtract the one pair that sums to 6, but the correct way is:

There are 5C2 = 10 total pairs. Only one of them (2 and 4) has a sum not greater than 7.

So the probability = 1 - 1/10 = 9/10.
Moderators:
Math Expert
101447 posts
Founder
40659 posts