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If \(a\) and \(b\) are two-digit positive integers greater than 10, is the remainder when \(a\) is divided by 11 less than the remainder when \(b\) is divided by 11?



(1) The remainder when \(a\) is divided by 69 is the fifth power of a prime number.

(2) The remainder when \(b\) is divided by 12 is \(b\)

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If \(a\) and \(b\) are two-digit positive integers greater than 10, is the remainder when \(a\) is divided by 11 less than the remainder when \(b\) is divided by 11?

First of all, note that the remainder when a positive integer is divided by 11 could be: 0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9 or 10.

(1) The remainder when \(a\) is divided by 69 is the fifth power of a prime number:

\(a=69q+prime^5\) and \(prime^5 < 69\) (the remainder must be less than the divisor). The only prime number whose fifth power is less than 69 is 2: \((2^5=32) < 69\). So, we have that \(a=69q+32\): 32, 101, 170, ... Since \(a\) is a two-digit integer, then \(a=32\).

Now, \(a=32\) divided by 11 gives the remainder of 10. Since 10 is the maximum remainder possible when divided by 11, then this remainder cannot be less then the remainder when \(b\) is divided by 11 (0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9 or 10). So, the answer to the question is NO.

Sufficient.

(2) The remainder when \(b\) is divided by 12 is \(b\):

The remainder must be less than the divisor, hence \(b\) must be less than 12 and since we are told that \(b\) is a two-digit integers greater than 10, then \(b\) must be 11.

Now, \(b=11\) divided by 11 gives the remainder of 0. Since 0 is the minimum remainder possible, than the remainder when \(a\) is divided by 11 cannot possible be less than 0. So, the answer to the question is NO.

Sufficient.


Answer: D
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I think this is a high-quality question and I agree with explanation. Great question this has to be classified a "800-level" problem lol!
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I think this is a high-quality question and I agree with explanation.
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This is a very high-quality question but I guess it is too tricky to be solved under pressure in about 2 mins.
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Is it not possible for a & b to be same two digits positive integers or am I reading the question incorrectly
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Is it not possible for a & b to be same two digits positive integers or am I reading the question incorrectly


Different variables can represent the same number, if it's not explicitely stated otherwise. But this does not change the answer here. For more check this: if-a-and-b-are-two-digit-positive-integers-greater-than-172886.html#p1669869
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Great question and easy to fall victim to the common mistake type - failing to recognise that "no" is a sufficient answer. We need to be careful and note we are not asked what the remainder is, but whether r of b can be larger

I got to a=2 but and r=10 and then assumed that because I didn't know b, (i) was insufficient. In fact, we don't need to know the remainder of B at all because we can't have a remainder larger than 10 anyway
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You in fact do need to know the remainder of B, hence why the answer to the question is D and not (C) as it would need to be if you are referencing "the remainder cant be greater than 10 anyway". That is contingent upon info from statement 1.
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That's a brilliant question!! :) yeah +1 for 800 level classification. Bunuel if you're listening. ha ha.
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I believe the answer would be C. It is asked that whether the remainder when a is divided by 11 less than the remainder when b is divided by 11.

We got the answer to the question that what is the value of a. But there is no where mentioned that the value of a cannot be equal to b.
So lets take the case when b=11 and a=11, then remainder when b/12 and a/12 is same & is not less.

Let me know if I am missing anything here
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I believe the answer would be C. It is asked that whether the remainder when a is divided by 11 less than the remainder when b is divided by 11.

We got the answer to the question that what is the value of a. But there is no where mentioned that the value of a cannot be equal to b.
So lets take the case when b=11 and a=11, then remainder when b/12 and a/12 is same & is not less.

Let me know if I am missing anything here


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The question asks: is the remainder when a is divided by 11 less than the remainder when b is divided by 11?

Each statement gives a NO answer to the question: the remainder when a is divided by 11 is NOT less than the remainder when b is divided by 11.

Please re-read the question and solution more carefully.
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ohh got it thanks.

So it is either equal & less than but NOT Less than. Got it right. Thanks :)
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