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They still don't know what I did last summer.


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You outted yourself, matey.

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Dang, I need to careful around this girl.

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Good thread, all, and I think you are coming to the right conclusion. (Though I would add the introspection in a bubble is no good. Figure out who you are and what you're story is. You'll have a wealth of material to use. Then talk to others, think some more, read this forum, check out admissions books to figure out which pieces of your story will make the best package.)

On a less serious note, I was at an informal get-together with some incoming Duke students yesterday. I think half - or maybe more - of the students there were Indian. One Indian friend told me I didn't need to do an exchange program; I was having a cultural experience right there! We were joking, of course, and you can't really draw conclusions based on the demographics of one brunch. However, the word on the street is that there are a TON of Indian students enrolled at Fuqua this year. We'll see when classes start.
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Don't tempt me; I will tell them. I know what you did last summer.

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They still don't know what I did last summer.


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You outted yourself, matey.

lhotseface
Dang, I need to careful around this girl.

aaudetat
Good thread, all, and I think you are coming to the right conclusion. (Though I would add the introspection in a bubble is no good. Figure out who you are and what you're story is. You'll have a wealth of material to use. Then talk to others, think some more, read this forum, check out admissions books to figure out which pieces of your story will make the best package.)

On a less serious note, I was at an informal get-together with some incoming Duke students yesterday. I think half - or maybe more - of the students there were Indian. One Indian friend told me I didn't need to do an exchange program; I was having a cultural experience right there! We were joking, of course, and you can't really draw conclusions based on the demographics of one brunch. However, the word on the street is that there are a TON of Indian students enrolled at Fuqua this year. We'll see when classes start.
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When I was at Chicago GSB last month, one of the associate deans said if you were in IT you really need to make yourself stand out. I fall in the Indian/IT pool but I was born and lived in the US all my life.
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I think American born Indian/Chinese are in a different pool than India and China applicants. The latter are grouped as "International Students" and compete for those spots, while we compete against the locals with similar ethnic backgrounds.
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I think American born Indian/Chinese are in a different pool than India and China applicants. The latter are grouped as "International Students" and compete for those spots, while we compete against the locals with similar ethnic backgrounds.


I don't know...they may not consider them international for class profile reasons but when they see your application they see the name and career. So at the very least that instantaneous picture of another typical Indian/Chinese code writer is there until they read a story about working on your parents' dairy farm in North Dakota or whatever tale you spin.

If I was an Indian and born in this country I would make sure to some how present it in an essay so they know I was born and raised here...in the hope that I wouldn't have to compete in that very tough demographic of IIT people.
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in the hope that I wouldn't have to compete in that very tough demographic of IIT people.


By IIT you mean the Indian IT? Or do you think that the IIT is a slightly different demographic? Although I won't be surprised (At this point) if I am told that more than 1000 IITians apply to B-Schools every year, so they belong to their own demographic now :(

Bah, am I ever going to get something easily? :evil:
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To make it clear, you actually dont have to focus on how you are different from others, because you have no freaking clue what others have to offer. You just have to dig deep and paint a picture of who you are, and you will automatically succeed in differenciating, because there aint no other pmenon in this world, or another :)


Great advice gmatmba!!
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Wow 1000 IITians? :( chances are getting slimmer.

I think there are around maybe 100 IITians applying a year though.

And for all non-Indians, as Neo pointed out, IIT does not stand for Indian IT, it stands for a school in India and I think 3 guys on this forum have attended it (that i know of)-myself, mNeo and Sardana.
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it might be because the Midwest and rural areas have fewer Indians/Chinese, so it's not as competitive? An alum told me that if I applied to Kellogg or Chicago, I will have a easier time than Stanford/Haas because my demographics is not as common out there (Chinese American Tech)
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What does an Indian born, Saudi Arabian early childhood, Japanese childhood, Indian undergrad, US grad, and Big 4 accounting company demography (a.k.a me) portray to the ad-com officer??

1. World savvy culturally profund person.
2. Hopskotch of cultures.
3. Bumbling idiot who had no clue where he was in life.


I think IITians (both Indian IT and IIT graduates) are tough candidates - great scores, academically qualified. Their only drawback is that they all have similar profiles, but that shouldn't ease the competition.

I am trying to portray my global identity to get away with my lack of work experience. Else, I am just a Joe Schmoe who has no chance against most other applicants.
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avi, your cultural background is your strength. Hopefully you have enough extracurriculars/community stuff in your cultural background or good stories to tell that will set you apart. I would definitely consider you based on what I know about your profile! :)
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it might be because the Midwest and rural areas have fewer Indians/Chinese, so it's not as competitive? An alum told me that if I applied to Kellogg or Chicago, I will have a easier time than Stanford/Haas because my demographics is not as common out there (Chinese American Tech)


I can't speak to other parts of the midwest, but I can tell you Chicago has HUGE Indian and Chinese communities.
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1000 IITs applying to B-school every year?! Why am I even applying.... :(
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What does an Indian born, Saudi Arabian early childhood, Japanese childhood, Indian undergrad, US grad, and Big 4 accounting company demography (a.k.a me) portray to the ad-com officer??


My wife was born in the middle east, and grew up in middle east, Canada and Mauritius. Then she worked in India, and is in the US now. We are planning to use this background of hers as one of her strengths (Whenever she decides to apply). I don't think a lot of MBA applicants grow up at diverse places like these. So as kryzak said, I think that as far as the "diversity" goes, you have a strong story to sell.
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it might be because the Midwest and rural areas have fewer Indians/Chinese, so it's not as competitive? An alum told me that if I applied to Kellogg or Chicago, I will have a easier time than Stanford/Haas because my demographics is not as common out there (Chinese American Tech)

I can't speak to other parts of the midwest, but I can tell you Chicago has HUGE Indian and Chinese communities.


i dont know about chinese, but chicago is like the hub of indian immigrants. i spoke to a an indian chicago gsb student at a gsb event and she mentioned that every indian knows somebody in chicago.
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I think it's allll about essays here. I'm a 1st generation American, parents and brothers born in India. Although I am not mainly an IT person, it is one of my responsibilities. I'm a little worried that when ad-com sees my application they will want to lump me in with indian/male/IT. Therefore, it's my mission (if i choose to accept it) to write some awesome essays so that I stand out.
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Guys, honestly, I think that we are obsessing a little too much over the Indian-Male-IT curse. Yes, there are tons of us applying to B-school, but honestly don't you think that each one of us is so different from the other? Goals, extra-curriculars, interests, hobbies, etc. I think we should focus on these things rather than worrying about how 'similar' we all are.

Disclaimer: If in a year's time I'm here with 10 dings against my name, I take all that back :)
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