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Medieval monks, through their manuscript illuminations, meticulously embellishing the elaborate calligraphy, communicated their interpretive understanding of the texts they illustrated.

A) Medieval monks, through their manuscript illuminations, meticulously embellishing the elaborate calligraphy, communicated

B) Through their manuscript illuminations, meticulously embellishing the elaborate calligraphy, medieval monks communicated

C) Through their manuscript illuminations, with which they meticulously embellished elaborate calligraphy, medieval monks communicated

D) Meticulously embellishing the elaborate calligraphy, medieval monks, through their manuscript illuminations communicated

E) Medieval monks, through their manuscript illuminations, meticulously embellished them and communicated
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Medieval monks, through their manuscript illuminations, meticulously embellishing the elaborate calligraphy, communicated their interpretive understanding of the texts they illustrated.

A)Medieval monks, through their manuscript illuminations, meticulously embellishing the elaborate calligraphy
B)Through their manuscript illuminations, meticulously embellishing the elaborate calligraphy, medieval monks
C)Through their manuscript illuminations, with which they meticulously embellished elaborate calligraphy, medieval monks
D) Meticulously embellishing the elaborate calligraphy, medieval monks, through their manuscript illuminations
E)Medieval monks, through their manuscript illuminations, meticulously embellished them and


Oh i went with B.. later found i'm wrong

B)Through their manuscript illuminations, meticulously embellishing the elaborate calligraphy, medieval monks
C)Through their manuscript illuminations, with which they meticulously embellished elaborate calligraphy, medieval monks

C and B seems to give same logical meaning IMO....
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Explanation as per Source -
Correct answer: (C)

In the original sentence, the subject “medieval monks” is separated from the main verb “communicated” by two modifiers (“through their manuscript illuminations” and “meticulously embellishing the elaborate calligraphy”). This would only be a Second-Tier error—a question of precision and style—were it not for the Verb Form error: “embellishing” should not be in the present continuous tense because it should agree with “communicated.” Answer (B) puts the sentence elements in a more logical order, joining “medieval monks” to “communicated” more closely, but it retains the Verb Form error.
Answer (C) is correct because “Through their manuscript illuminations” modifies “medieval monks” even though the two elements are separated by “with which they meticulously embellished elaborate calligraphy,” which now grammatically modifies “illuminations” instead of “monks.” This clarifies the relationships between the sentence elements and reunites the sentence’s main subject and main verb with each other.

Now the question is - Do we follow this style of "remote modification " as in C?
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Medieval monks, through their manuscript illuminations, meticulously embellishing the elaborate calligraphy, communicated their interpretive understanding of the texts they illustrated.

A)Medieval monks, through their manuscript illuminations, meticulously embellishing the elaborate calligraphy
B)Through their manuscript illuminations, meticulously embellishing the elaborate calligraphy, medieval monks
C)Through their manuscript illuminations, with which they meticulously embellished elaborate calligraphy, medieval monks
D) Meticulously embellishing the elaborate calligraphy, medieval monks, through their manuscript illuminations
E)Medieval monks, through their manuscript illuminations, meticulously embellished them and


If OA is C, then as per my understanding OA is incorrect because of placement of comma. There is a comma after "elaborate calligraphy" and that comma is missing in all of the answer choices. This means comma is not part of "Sentence Correction" and the sentence reads as

-------------------------------------------------- , communicated their interpretive understanding of the texts they illustrated.

Now lets fit in choice C in the blank.

Through their manuscript illuminations, with which they meticulously embellished elaborate calligraphy, medieval monks , communicated their interpretive understanding of the texts they illustrated.

In choice C, the main subject "medieval monks" becomes non essential. On this basis I rejected C.

Experts can weigh in here.


hi,

correct question is as follows:

Medieval monks, through their manuscript illuminations, meticulously embellishing the elaborate calligraphy, communicated their interpretive understanding of the texts they illustrated.

A) Medieval monks, through their manuscript illuminations, meticulously embellishing the elaborate calligraphy, communicated

B) Through their manuscript illuminations, meticulously embellishing the elaborate calligraphy, medieval monks communicated

C) Through their manuscript illuminations, with which they meticulously embellished elaborate calligraphy, medieval monks communicated

D) Meticulously embellishing the elaborate calligraphy, medieval monks, through their manuscript illuminations communicated

E) Medieval monks, through their manuscript illuminations, meticulously embellished them and communicated

The core of the sentence here is "monks communicated." The other pieces are modifying: "through their manuscript illuminations" tells us how they communicated, as does "meticulously embellishing." Because they're telling us how, these are both adverbial modifiers.

The problem, though, is that we can't stack two modifiers in a row if they're modifying the same thing. Effectively, what we have is:
Subject, adverbial modifier, adverbial modifier, verb...
We need to conjoin these modifiers (if they're modifying the same thing), or change one of them to modify something else.


A) Medieval monks, through their manuscript illuminations, meticulously embellishing the elaborate calligraphy, communicated
Two adverbial modifiers modifying the same thing.

B) Through their manuscript illuminations, meticulously embellishing the elaborate calligraphy, medieval monks communicated
Same issue here - the modifiers were simply moved to the beginning of the sentence, but it's still two adverbial modifiers modifying the same thing.

C) Through their manuscript illuminations, with which they meticulously embellished elaborate calligraphy, medieval monks communicated
Here, the idea of "embellishing" has been changed. The "with which" tells us that this is now modifying the word that came before it: "illuminations." It's a modifier nested within another modifier - in other words, they're modifying two different things. CORRECT

D) Meticulously embellishing the elaborate calligraphy, medieval monks, through their manuscript illuminations communicated
Here, the modifiers aren't directly in a row, but they're still both adverbial modifiers trying to modify the same thing.

E) Medieval monks, through their manuscript illuminations, meticulously embellished them and communicated
This sentence now makes "embellished" a verb rather than a modifier. This fixes the modifier issue, but it changes the meaning. "Embellished" and "communicated" are not parallel ideas.
Furthermore, the use of "them" is incorrect. We can't use "their" to refer to monks and "them" to refer to the manuscripts in the same sentence.


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Medieval monks, through their manuscript illuminations, meticulously embellishing the elaborate calligraphy, communicated their interpretive understanding of the texts they illustrated.

A)Medieval monks, through their manuscript illuminations, meticulously embellishing the elaborate calligraphy
B)Through their manuscript illuminations, meticulously embellishing the elaborate calligraphy, medieval monks
C)Through their manuscript illuminations, with which they meticulously embellished elaborate calligraphy, medieval monks
D) Meticulously embellishing the elaborate calligraphy, medieval monks, through their manuscript illuminations
E)Medieval monks, through their manuscript illuminations, meticulously embellished them and


If OA is C, then as per my understanding OA is incorrect because of placement of comma. There is a comma after "elaborate calligraphy" and that comma is missing in all of the answer choices. This means comma is not part of "Sentence Correction" and the sentence reads as

-------------------------------------------------- , communicated their interpretive understanding of the texts they illustrated.

Now lets fit in choice C in the blank.

Through their manuscript illuminations, with which they meticulously embellished elaborate calligraphy, medieval monks , communicated their interpretive understanding of the texts they illustrated.

In choice C, the main subject "medieval monks" becomes non essential. On this basis I rejected C.

Experts can weigh in here.


I think that this should be C
Through their manuscript illuminations, with which they meticulously embellished elaborate calligraphy, medieval monks communicated their interpretive understanding of the texts they illustrated.
[note that there is no comma between "monks communicated"]

And yes, you're correct in your understanding because you cannot place a comma between a subject and its verb.

If C has the comma

Through their manuscript illuminations, with which they meticulously embellished elaborate calligraphy, medieval monks , communicated their interpretive understanding of the texts they illustrated.

The last part technically is a comma + ED modifer, hence modifies the preceding noun, so C is not a sentence at all because it lacks a verb. If you remove the comma, the sentence is fine.

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This is how i interpreted the option B

B) Through quality A, quality B, monks did something.

here both the phrases in red and green are modifying the monks, which is wrong

he quality B should be corresponding to/modifying quality A

hence B is wrong.


I went for C
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can anyone explain this in details?
especially option (C) vs. (D)

My thought process:
After reading all options everything looked the same. I went back to the first one, and I concluded that 'meticulously embellishing the elaborate calligraphy' was also something which monk did with the manuscript
(A) Unclear how monk meticulously embellished the elaborate calligraphy - two modifiers placed next to each other
(B) same as (A)
(C) Clears our doubt as elaborate calligraphy was done by the manuscripts. Even though two modifiers are placed next to each other, their relationship is clearly defined by 'with which'
(D) Separates the two modifier and hence a strong contender. When compared to (C), its easy to understand that calligraphy is not task by itself it was done using the manuscript somehow. Also, unclear placement of commas
(E) Completely incorrect as calligraphy is gone now and manuscripts are embellished
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can anyone explain this in details?
especially option (C) vs. (D)

My thought process:
After reading all options everything looked the same. I went back to the first one, and I concluded that 'meticulously embellishing the elaborate calligraphy' was also something which monk did with the manuscript
(A) Unclear how monk meticulously embellished the elaborate calligraphy - two modifiers placed next to each other
(B) same as (A)
(C) Clears our doubt as elaborate calligraphy was done by the manuscripts. Even though two modifiers are placed next to each other, their relationship is clearly defined by 'with which'
(D) Separates the two modifier and hence a strong contender. When compared to (C), its easy to understand that calligraphy is not task by itself it was done using the manuscript somehow. Also, unclear placement of commas
(E) Completely incorrect as calligraphy is gone now and manuscripts are embellished


Manuscript illuminations are small illustrations (borders, pictures, letter decorations) that were done to increase the value of the manuscript (an original handwritten document).

The monks embellished calligraphy with illuminations e.g. gold dots on first letters, silver underlining of important people names etc.
So the gist of the sentence is "Through their manuscript illuminations, medieval monks communicated their understanding of the texts."

(C) clearly states the message:

Through their manuscript illuminations, with which they meticulously embellished elaborate calligraphy, medieval monks communicated ...

Since the monks embellished the calligraphy with illuminations, this option clarifies the role of each part of the sentence.

(D) Meticulously embellishing the elaborate calligraphy, medieval monks, through their manuscript illuminations communicated ...
Here, the meaning of the sentence is lost.
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Medieval monks, through their manuscript illuminations, meticulously embellishing the elaborate calligraphy, communicated their interpretive understanding of the texts they illustrated.

A)Medieval monks, through their manuscript illuminations, meticulously embellishing the elaborate calligraphy
B)Through their manuscript illuminations, meticulously embellishing the elaborate calligraphy, medieval monks
C)Through their manuscript illuminations, with which they meticulously embellished elaborate calligraphy, medieval monks
D) Meticulously embellishing the elaborate calligraphy, medieval monks, through their manuscript illuminations
E)Medieval monks, through their manuscript illuminations, meticulously embellished them and


we do not need to understand meaning of choice a and b to eliminate them but we need to do so for choic c,d,e to find oa

because we need to understand meaning to solve c,d,e, new words is fatal . this case disadvantage non native.

honestly, I do not know meanning of new words clligraphy, but I guess calliphy should relate photo and illumination should relate illumination. with this thinking in mind, I choose c, the oa

if gmat, an international test uses many new words which is not neccessarry, it disadvantage foreign students.
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The point here is that when a present participial modifier( verb+ing) starts a sentence, it modifies the following subject by virtue of its being an adjectival modifier. However, if the verb+ing modifier is placed in the middle of a sentence, it can modify only a previous clause. If there is no clause before the modifier and if there is only a phrase, then it may not modify the phrase. In A, and B, there is no clause with an authentic verb for the modifier to modify. Hence, they are out of the reckoning; In E, we have no clear referent for the pronoun ‘them’. In addition, ‘embellished’ and ‘communicated’ are not two separate, equal functions. So both cannot be tensed; the core function ‘communicated’ has to be tensed and the ‘embellishing’ has to be participled.

In D, The verb is far removed from the subject monks and hence is inferior to the more dynamic C although it is hard to explain whether such a hair - split is substantive enough to reject a choice.

The final choice may be C with a pinch of salt.
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The point here is that when a present participial modifier( verb+ing) starts a sentence, it modifies the following subject by virtue of its being an adjectival modifier. However, if the verb+ing modifier is placed in the middle of a sentence, it can modify only a previous clause. If there is no clause before the modifier and if there is only a phrase, then it may not modify the phrase. In A, and B, there is no clause with an authentic verb for the modifier to modify. Hence, they are out of the reckoning; In E, we have no clear referent for the pronoun ‘them’. In addition, ‘embellished’ and ‘communicated’ are not two separate, equal functions. So both cannot be tensed; the core function ‘communicated’ has to be tensed and the ‘embellishing’ has to be participled.

In D, The verb is far removed from the subject monks and hence is inferior to the more dynamic C although it is hard to explain whether such a hair - split is substantive enough to reject a choice.

The final choice may be C with a pinch of salt.


Hi,

As per my understanding comma in the middle is not underlined. So I read the core sentence of option C after masking the modifiers, it looks something like this:

C. Through their manuscript illuminations, with which they meticulously embellished elaborate calligraphy, medieval monks , communicated their interpretive understanding of the texts they illustrated.

This is a fragment with just the subject Medieval Monks because of the comma between monk and communicated.

Am I missing something here?

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This is a simulated version of the OG question, OG 13 -- Q no 104.
Beatrix Potter, in her book illustrations, carefully coordinating them with her narratives, capitalized on her keen observation and love of the natural world.

(A) Beatrix Potter, in her book illustrations, carefully coordinating them with her narratives,
(B) In her book illustrations, carefully coordinating them with her narratives, Beatrix Potter
(C) In her book illustrations, which she carefully coordinated with her narratives, Beatrix Potter
(D) Carefully coordinated with her narratives, Beatrix Potter, in her book illustrations
(E) Beatrix Potter, in her book illustrations, carefully coordinated them with her narratives and

When you cross-check the transcription of the underlined portion with choice A that is supposed to be the same as in the text, we can see that the comma is underlined.
Medieval monks, through their manuscript illuminations, meticulously embellishing the elaborate calligraphy, communicated their interpretive understanding of the texts they illustrated.

A)Medieval monks, through their manuscript illuminations, meticulously embellishing the elaborate calligraphy
B)Through their manuscript illuminations, meticulously embellishing the elaborate calligraphy, medieval monks
C)Through their manuscript illuminations, with which they meticulously embellished elaborate calligraphy, medieval monks
D) Meticulously embellishing the elaborate calligraphy, medieval monks, through their manuscript illuminations
E)Medieval monks, through their manuscript illuminations, meticulously embellished them and
But for some strange reason, the comma after calligraphy has been omitted from the Veritas question.
This must be a typo, maybe by oversight. This is the root of confusion, as I see.


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In the original post, if the comma is taken out of the SC, isn't option D. more correct, I see in a reply afterwards that they are changing the commas and underlined part and it now does not seem as good as an answer, nevertheless it was tricky with the form of the original post, I would like to know why (in the original post) is not correct?

Also for answer C. isn't it supposed to be incorrect to use a pronoun before the noun is mentioned? such as in "with which they meticulously embellished elaborate calligraphy, medieval monks communicated..."

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Medieval monks, through their manuscript illuminations, meticulously embellishing the elaborate calligraphy, communicated their interpretive understanding of the texts they illustrated.

A)Medieval monks, through their manuscript illuminations, meticulously embellishing the elaborate calligraphy
B)Through their manuscript illuminations, meticulously embellishing the elaborate calligraphy, medieval monks
C)Through their manuscript illuminations, with which they meticulously embellished elaborate calligraphy, medieval monks
D) Meticulously embellishing the elaborate calligraphy, medieval monks, through their manuscript illuminations
E)Medieval monks, through their manuscript illuminations, meticulously embellished them and


Medieval monks, through their manuscript illuminations, meticulously embellishing the elaborate calligraphy, communicated their interpretive understanding of the texts they illustrated.

A)Medieval monks, through their manuscript illuminations, meticulously embellishing the elaborate calligraphy ........>Meaning error
B)Through their manuscript illuminations, meticulously embellishing the elaborate calligraphy, medieval monks .........>modifier errror,incorrectly modifying "medival monks"
C)Through their manuscript illuminations, with which they meticulously embellished elaborate calligraphy, medieval monks .......>Correct,
D) Meticulously embellishing the elaborate calligraphy, medieval monks,through their manuscript illuminations .........>Modifier error leading to meanng error[/color]
E)Medieval monks, through their manuscript illuminations, meticulously embellished them and ............>Changed the meaning
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i dont think that gmat will test this kind of question.
sc test meaning. this mean we have to understand the meaning of each phrase to know which phrase modify which phrase. but if the meaning of a phrase is too specialist which is understood only by a specialist, no one can understand the meaning of that phrase. and so, no one can solve that sc problem.

this sentence require a deep specialist understanding of a phrase. so, on ly a few students can solve this one.

to make a sc harder, gmat can present the scenario in which meaning of each phrase is easy but the combination of the meanings is hard. we do not know which meaning modifies which meaning.
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What specialist knowledge are you referring to? The meaning of the word "illuminations" in this context? That's a fairly widely-known meaning and could certainly be fair game on the GMAT. Furthermore, we can solve this using our grammar knowledge without knowing what an illumination is.
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Can you please mention the source of the question ? Moreover, is communicated part of the underlined portion ?


"Communicated" is not a part of the underlined portion.

Subject of main clause: Medieval monks
Verb of main clause: communicated

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Can you please explain the error in option A ?


Option A: Medieval monks, through their manuscript illuminations, meticulously embellishing the elaborate calligraphy, communicated their interpretive understanding of the texts they illustrated. - the phrase 'meticulously embellishing.....' incorrectly modifies manuscript illuminations.
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In option D, two modifiers Meticulously embellishing the elaborate calligraphy and through their manuscript illuminations are separated by the subject medieval monks. I think this sentence is good and don't know why D is wrong?

Please elaborate on option D!
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Okay, so here's the sentence according to D:

Meticulously embellishing the elaborate calligraphy, medieval monks, through their manuscript illuminations, communicated their interpretive understanding of the texts they illustrated.

Is there a rule that we can't have two adverbial modifiers in a row (separated or not)? No, but it often causes trouble when we try! Sometimes it makes the intended meaning unclear, and sometimes it just keeps us waiting too long to get to the main clause. In this case, we have an additional adverbial modifier inserted between the subject (monks) and the verb (communicated). This isn't always wrong, but it's an advanced move that one should typically avoid, and it's generally going to work out badly on SC.

Normally, we'd fix this by placing the modifier before or after the action. In this case, since the clause ends in a long modifier, placing "through their manuscript illuminations" before the clause makes the most sense. The problem is that we have another modifier there. If we start with "Meticulously embellishing . . . , through their manuscript illuminations," by the time the reader gets through all that they are just dying to know the subject! For a similar "traffic jam," look at answer choice E of the Stella Adler problem. (E is also wrong for other modifier-related reasons.) https://gmatclub.com/forum/as-an-actres ... 20808.html

So what do we do? Typically, the GMAT will solve this problem by converting one of the modifiers to something else. The right answer of the Stella Adler problem takes one of those adverbial modifiers and puts it into the main clause. The monks problem takes what was an adverbial modifier in A/B/D and turns it into a noun modifier that builds on the initial adverbial modifier. This is not the most elegant solution (C is still fairly bad writing), but it helps to solve the problem.

Another problem with D is that it opens with "Meticulously embellishing the elaborate calligraphy." It makes it seem as if there is some existing calligraphy that we're already supposed to know about. To avoid this, we can ditch the article ("the"), as C does, or we can add something after "calligraphy" (e.g. "Meticulously embellishing the elaborate calligraphy in their manuscripts, medieval monks . . . ").
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