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Hi,

Let's look at below two questions:

Did you score 750 on GMAT?

Did you score 750 on GMAT in Mexico?

Would both questions help you in finding out whether the person has scored 750 on GMAT or not?

The answer is No. While the answer to the first question will obviously help you in determining whether the person has scored 750 on GMAT or not, the answer to the second question may not. If the answer to the second question is no, we have no clue whether the person did not score 750 on GMAT or he scored 750 but not in Mexico.

So, we can't really ignore part of questions to understand their meaning.

Now, let's look at option C:

(C) Whether artisans from western Mexico could have learned complex metallurgical techniques from their Ecuadorian counterparts without actually leaving western Mexico.

This is similar as saying "whether you can score more than 750 on GMAT without taking an classes". This is different from saying "whether you can score more than 750 on GMAT". The latter question is more about your capability to score 750 while the former question is more about your dependence on classes to score more than 750.

Similarly, option C is concerned about whether artisans could have learnt those techniques without leaving western Mexico. Now, we understand that learning inside or outside Mexico is irrelevant for us. Therefore, option C is irrelevant and incorrect.

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Since when exchange of products means exchange of skills to make the products, especially that we are talking about "complex techniques". Conversations between the two people is an assumption.

Now, the highlighted part is wrong here. Conversation between the two groups is not an assumption here. The passage very clearly states that "the people of these two areas were in cultural contact".

Now, coming to option A as to why it is correct

The conclusion is "the metallurgical techniques used to make the rings found in Mexico were learned by Mexican artisans from Ecuadorian counterparts."

This is based on the premise that "Metal rings recently excavated form seventh-century settlements in the western part of Mexico were made using the same metallurgical techniques as those used by Ecuadorian artisans before and during that period."

Now, what if Mexican artists didn't even create these metal rings. What if these metal rings were actually created by Ecuadorian artisans and then brought through trade in Mexico? In that case, can we say that Mexican artists learnt techniques from Ecuadorian counterparts? No. In that case, we would be even doubtful whether Mexican artists knew about the techniques or not.



Hi,

My reason of doubting Option A : Whether metal objects were traded from Ecuador to western Mexico during the seventh century.

Conclusion - metallurgical techniques used to make the rings found in Mexico were learned by Mexican artisans from Ecuadorian counterparts


Lets say YES, metal objects were traded from Ecuador to western Mexico during the seventh century - This can strengthen the conclusion because this establishes the reason that there was actually trade (or cultural contact) between the people of these two places in the seventh century, hence people in western Mexico might have learnt the metallurgical techniques from their Ecuadorian counterparts. This option can also weaken the conclusion as explained in your post.


Now, lets say NO metal objects were not traded from Ecuador to western Mexico during the seventh century - This again neither strengthens nor weakens the conclusion because objects could have been traded from Western Mexico to Ecuador. This doesn't say anything to establish or negate the presence of trade (or cultural contact) between them.


I cannot reason why Option A is the correct answer.

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What does the argument say? It says that two regions use same metallurgical technique (Mexico and Ecuador). But the technique is complex, hence only one of them could have invented it, and one would have shown the other. From this, author concluded that people in mexico learnt the technique from Ecuadorian people.

You should focus only on this part when evaluating the options- author concluded that "people in mexico learnt the technique from Ecuadorian people."


(A) Whether metal objects were traded from Ecuador to western Mexico during the seventh century?

Suppose that metal object were traded, does this info help us reject or accept the author's conclusion? Yes, it does. How? If the metals objects were traded then it is possible that Mexican folks didn't need to learn the technique at all. They could have just bought the objects.

(B) Whether travel between western Mexico and Ecuador in the seventh century would have been primarily by land or by sea

Suppose that travel was by Sea, does this info help us reject or accept the author's conclusion? No, it doesn't. We don't care what was the means of travel. Our concern is was the technique learnt or not.


(C) Whether artisans from western Mexico could have learned complex metallurgical techniques from their Ecuadorian counterparts without actually leaving western Mexico.

Suppose that Mexican didn't need to leave West Mexico, does this info help us reject or accept the author's conclusion? No, it doesn't. We don't care if they needed to leave or not. It is possible that Ecuadorians came to mexico and taught them or it could be the other way around. But this info doesn't help us accept or reject our conclusion


(D) Whether metal tools were used in the seventh-century settlements in western Mexico

Suppose that metal tools were used, does this info help us reject or accept the author's conclusion? No, it doesn't. The passage just says that metal tools were found, also even if the tools were not used, it is possible that mexican built the tools and exported it to some other regions. Info about usage doesn't help us accept or reject the conclusion

(E) Whether any of the techniques used in the manufacture of the metal rings found in western Mexico are still practiced among artisans in Ecuador today

Suppose that those techniques are still practiced, does this info help us reject or accept the author's conclusion? No, it doesn't. We don't care if they are still practiced, our only concern is did the mexicans learn the technique or not?
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I got the answer right using the same process as described by GMATNinja , however, something that is bothering me is the word "cultural contact" in the stimulus, which led me to spending more time on answer choice C. Would anyone please be able to explain why this is irrelevant? Thank you!
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Since we are trying to evaluate the archaeologists' hypothesis, let's start by identifying that hypothesis: "the metallurgical techniques used to make the rings found in Mexico were learned by Mexican artisans from Ecuadorian counterparts."

Great, now let's break down the reasoning that supports that hypothesis:

  • Metal rings were recently found in the ruins of 7th-century settlements in the western part of Mexico.
  • Those rings were made using the same techniques as those used by Ecuadorian artisans before and during the 7th century. So it is likely (though not certain) that the Ecuadorians were using those techniques before the people in western Mexico.
  • The techniques used to make the rings are pretty complex, so it's unlikely that the techniques were developed independently in each location. If we had been talking about some simple process, it would be possible that each civilization developed the process on their own. But in this case, it is more likely that only ONE of the two cultures developed the techniques.
  • The people of western Mexico were in cultural contact with the people of Ecuador. Therefore, it is possible that the groups learned from one another.

According to the archaeologists, this evidence suggests that the Mexican artisans learned how to make the rings from the Ecuadorian artisans. What would be most useful to establish in order to evaluate the archaeologists' hypothesis?

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(A) Whether metal objects were traded from Ecuador to western Mexico during the seventh century
We know that it is unlikely that both groups developed the techniques for making the rings independently. As a result, the archaeologists believe that the people in western Mexico must have learned to make the rings from the Ecuadorians. But what if the people in western Mexico NEVER actually made the rings? What if they simply traded with the Ecuadorians for their rings? That would nullify the hypothesis, so let's hang on to this one.

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(B) Whether travel between western Mexico and Ecuador in the seventh century would have been primarily by land or by sea
It doesn't matter HOW the two groups were in contact. All that matters is that the two groups were in cultural contact. This information is irrelevant, so eliminate (B).

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(C) Whether artisans from western Mexico could have learned complex metallurgical techniques from their Ecuadorian counterparts without actually leaving western Mexico.
The archaeologists argue that the artisans from western Mexico learned the techniques from their Ecuadorian counterparts, but the archaeologists don't care about WHERE that learning took place. Whether it took place in Mexico, Ecuador, or somewhere else, the archaeologists hypothesis could still be valid. (C) can thus be eliminated.

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(D) Whether metal tools were used in the seventh-century settlements in western Mexico
We want to determine whether the artisans from western Mexico learned the techniques for making the metal rings from the Ecuadorian artisans. We have no idea what kinds of tools were used by the Ecuadorians to make those rings (maybe the tools were metal, maybe they were not), so choice (D) can be eliminated.

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(E) Whether any of the techniques used in the manufacture of the metal rings found in western Mexico are still practiced among artisans in Ecuador today
The hypothesis is only concerned with 7th-century artisans in western Mexico and whether those artisans learned how to make metal rings from Ecuadorian artisans during that time. It makes no difference whether those techniques are still used in Ecuador today, so eliminate (E).

Choice (A) is the best answer.
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I got the answer right using the same process as described by GMATNinja , however, something that is bothering me is the word "cultural contact" in the stimulus, which led me to spending more time on answer choice C. Would anyone please be able to explain why this is irrelevant? Thank you!
(C) is irrelevant because of the "without actually leaving western Mexico" part.

It doesn't matter WHERE the cultural contact occurred. Maybe it was in Mexico, maybe in Ecuador, or maybe anywhere else where both groups traveled. All that matters is that the two groups were in fact in cultural contact.

As a result, it would have been POSSIBLE for the groups to learn from one another. The LOCATION of the cultural contact doesn't matter, so answer (C) wouldn't help.
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A very interesting insight I had while solving this Q (I got it wrong the first time around) is that the best answer for an evaluate question is one where based on the answer (ie new info) one side can fill any gaps in arguement/claim and other will weaken the claim. If an option does not lead to this situation it might be not the best answer (in my case it was option C which sounded right but A led to a proper place where claim could be strengthened or weakened)
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