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NEED TO IMPROVE FROM 600 (QA 50, VA 23) TO 720 - ONLY 30 DAYS LEFT

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New post 10 Jul 2018, 03:22
Hi Folks,

I had given my exam last sunday and the result was quite disastrous.

Quite happy with the QA score, as i scored 50 in that. But in VA, i scored only 23.

It was quite shocking to me as in the veritas mock test and Manhattan , i consistently scored about 32-34 in VA.

I joined e-Gmat verbal especially SC part. But i fall miserably in that part only.

I am unable to understand what i have to do know, as i already completed full series of eGmat verbal course.

I need to apply for SPJain, as the last day to submit score is 14th August.

Waiting for your suggestions.

bb and GMATNinja please have a look into this.
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New post 10 Jul 2018, 03:29
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I am not an expert, but V 23 tells that you have considerable gaps in Verbal part. I recommend go over Manhattan SC book and Powerscore CR, for RC sorry, cant recommend much apart from reading reading and reading sophisticated texts. Good luck
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I am not an expert, but V 23 tells that you have considerable gaps in Verbal part. I recommend go over Manhattan SC book and Powerscore CR, for RC sorry, cant recommend much apart from reading reading and reading sophisticated texts. Good luck



Thnx Nigina93, can you please give me an idea that frm where i can practise online verbal questions of GMAT level. Because i practised a lot from veritas, manhatten and scored 32-34 everytime.
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New post 11 Jul 2018, 03:14
Hi adiryapunter,

I am sorry to know that you could not perform as well as you had hoped in the test. But do not be demotivated, instead, rise like a phoenix! Take this test as a stepping stone in your endeavor to reach your target score.

What Went Wrong?
I see that you used our course for Verbal preparation. Given your mock scores of V35, I would like to know a few things from you to be able to understand what went wrong –
a) Did you follow the process taught in the course during preparation and the test?
b) Did you give the MGMAT mock tests in a single sitting?
c) Was there anything else that impacted your performance during the test?

Write to us on support@e-gmat.com for us to be able to pin-point the exact issues by looking at the data from your dashboard. We want to help you reach your target score in time to be able to get through SP Jain.

Looking forward to your response!

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New post 11 Jul 2018, 03:37
Hi @Aditee, thankx for your response. I mailed my ESR file to above mail id provided by you. Its from puneet_1106@yahoo.co.in. Please have a look and let me know my gaps.
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Hi adiryapunter,

Earlier this year, you posted that you had scored 590/Q49/V22 (here: https://gmatclub.com/forum/feeling-dist ... l#p2018389). GMAC has publicly stated that the Official Score that you earn on Test Day is within +/- 30 points of actual ability. These two Official Scores show that you essentially performed the same on both attempts (about 600 +/- a few points). Thus, even though this recent attempt was almost 5 months later, you continue to 'see' (and respond to) the GMAT in the same ways as before. By extension, it's possible that you have gotten 'stuck' at this particular score level. At fact value, it would likely take at least another 2-3 months of consistent, guided study to raise a 600 to a 720, but if you've developed any 'bad habits' during your prior months of study, then it might take even longer to achieve that Score Goal.

While it's understandable why you want to be done with the GMAT by August 14th (for the application deadline), there's no point in 'rushing in' an application if it isn't strong enough to get you into that Program. This is meant to say that you might need to push back your Test Date and consider a later application Round.

Before I can offer you the specific advice that you’re looking for, it would help if you could provide a bit more information on how you've been studying and your goals:

1) How long did you study for each of your 3 attempts at the GMAT?
2) What study materials have you used for each attempt?
3) Are you planning to apply to any other Schools besides SP Jain?

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New post 11 Jul 2018, 11:45
Hi Rich,

Thanks for your valuable analysis. Please find the below information :

1) How long did you study for each of your 3 attempts at the GMAT?

It's around 2-3 hours during weekdays, while 5-6 hours during weekends.


2) What study materials have you used for each attempt?

I have used eGmat, Gmat Verbal review for Verbal Part and Official Guide for both Verbal and QA.
I have enrolled for Veritas and Manhatten test series.
In the last 4-5 tests that i had attempted, i scored approx 32-34 in Verbal in each test.


3) Are you planning to apply to any other Schools besides SP Jain?
Yes i am planning to apply for SP Jain, some of the iim's and Great lakes besides SP Jain.

Please let me know if you have any other concerns.

Thanks & Regards,
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Hi adiryapunter,

Earlier this year, you posted that you had scored 590/Q49/V22 (here: https://gmatclub.com/forum/feeling-dist ... l#p2018389). GMAC has publicly stated that the Official Score that you earn on Test Day is within +/- 30 points of actual ability. These two Official Scores show that you essentially performed the same on both attempts (about 600 +/- a few points). Thus, even though this recent attempt was almost 5 months later, you continue to 'see' (and respond to) the GMAT in the same ways as before. By extension, it's possible that you have gotten 'stuck' at this particular score level. At fact value, it would likely take at least another 2-3 months of consistent, guided study to raise a 600 to a 720, but if you've developed any 'bad habits' during your prior months of study, then it might take even longer to achieve that Score Goal.

While it's understandable why you want to be done with the GMAT by August 14th (for the application deadline), there's no point in 'rushing in' an application if it isn't strong enough to get you into that Program. This is meant to say that you might need to push back your Test Date and consider a later application Round.

Before I can offer you the specific advice that you’re looking for, it would help if you could provide a bit more information on how you've been studying and your goals:

1) How long did you study for each of your 3 attempts at the GMAT?
2) What study materials have you used for each attempt?
3) Are you planning to apply to any other Schools besides SP Jain?

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Hi Rich,

Thanks for your valuable analysis. Please find the below information :

1) How long did you study for each of your 3 attempts at the GMAT?

It's around 2-3 hours during weekdays, while 5-6 hours during weekends.


2) What study materials have you used for each attempt?

I have used eGmat, Gmat Verbal review for Verbal Part and Official Guide for both Verbal and QA.
I have enrolled for Veritas and Manhatten test series.
In the last 4-5 tests that i had attempted, i scored approx 32-34 in Verbal in each test.


3) Are you planning to apply to any other Schools besides SP Jain?
Yes i am planning to apply for SP Jain, some of the iim's and Great lakes besides SP Jain.

Please let me know if you have any other concerns.

Thanks & Regards,
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Hi Folks,

I had given my exam last sunday and the result was quite disastrous.

Quite happy with the QA score, as i scored 50 in that. But in VA, i scored only 23.

It was quite shocking to me as in the veritas mock test and Manhattan , i consistently scored about 32-34 in VA.

I joined e-Gmat verbal especially SC part. But i fall miserably in that part only.

I am unable to understand what i have to do know, as i already completed full series of eGmat verbal course.

I need to apply for SPJain, as the last day to submit score is 14th August.

Waiting for your suggestions.

bb and GMATNinja please have a look into this.




With regards to Verbal there are a couple of options:

1. Check out the SC specific threads on this forum, some of them (generally those with a lot of kudos) are very helpful

2. Listen to some of the videos on the YT chanel from Veritas, Magoosh and GmatNinja

3. Maybe check out the link in my signature, it adresses some verbal topics in general.

All the best for your prep my friend,
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Hi adiryapunter,

Since your Verbal Scaled Score on this recent Official GMAT was so much lower than how you were scoring on your practice CATs, we should take a more detailed look at how you were taking your CATs:

1) Which brand(s) of CATs were you using?
2) Did you take the ENTIRE CAT each time (including the Essay and IR sections)?
3) Did you take them at home?
4) Did you take them at the same time of day as when you took your Official GMAT?
5) Did you ever do ANYTHING during your CATs that you couldn't do on Test Day (pause the CAT, skip sections, take longer breaks, etc.)?
6) Did you ever take a CAT more than once? Had you seen any of the questions BEFORE (re: on a prior CAT, in an online forum or in a practice set)?

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New post 13 Jul 2018, 06:40
sorry, but it's time to lower your expectations

alternatively, just apply next cycle? not the end of the world. however, to get an accurate estimation of your true GMAT abilities, you should really be drawing your estimated score from OG practice tests, which you did not do. i have heard that veritas tests are easier than average
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New post 13 Jul 2018, 10:13
Hi adiryapunter,

I see that you have been preparing for the GMAT for some time but have been unable to improve your verbal score. You should consider making some changes to your study routine as well as giving yourself more time, so you can ensure that you have mastered GMAT verbal prior to taking your next GMAT.

When devising a new study routine, you are going to want to use a resource that allows you to FIRST learn the concepts and strategies related to SC, CR, and RC, and then you will need to put in a lot of dedicated practice to test yourself on the areas you have reviewed. For example, let’s say you start by learning about Critical Reasoning. Your first goal is to fully master the individual CR topics: strengthening, weakening, resolve the paradox, etc. As you learn each CR problem type, do focused practice so you can track your knowledge in the topic. If, for example, you get a weakening question wrong, ask yourself why. Did you make a careless mistake? Did you not recognize the specific CR question type? Were you doing too much analysis in your head? Did you skip over a keyword in an answer choice? You must thoroughly analyze your mistakes and seek to turn weaknesses into strengths by focusing on the question types you dread seeing and the questions you take a long time to answer correctly. You will want to follow this process for all verbal topics.

Each time you strengthen your understanding of a topic and your skill in answering questions of a particular type, you increase your odds of hitting your score goal. You know that there are types of questions that you are happy to see and types that you would rather not see, and questions that you take a long time to answer correctly. Learn to more effectively answer the types of questions that you would rather not see, and make them into your favorite types. Learn to efficiently answer questions that you currently take five minutes to answer. By finding, say, a dozen weaker quant areas and turning them into strong areas, you will make great progress toward hitting your verbal score goal. If a dozen areas turn out not to be enough, strengthen some more areas.

When you do dozens of the same type of question one after the other, you learn just what it takes to get questions of that type correct consistently. If you aren't getting close to 90 percent of questions of a certain type correct, go back and seek to better understand how that type of question works, and then do more questions of that type until you get to at least around 90 percent accuracy in your training. If you get 100 percent of some sets correct, even better.

So, work on accuracy and generally finding correct answers, work on specific weaker areas one by one to make them strong areas, and when you take a practice GMAT or the real thing, take all the time per question available to do your absolute best to get right answers consistently. The GMAT is essentially a game of seeing how many right answers you can get in the time allotted. Approach the test with that conception in mind, and focus intently on the question in front of you with one goal in mind: getting a CORRECT answer.

Finally, you may find it helpful to read my article for more information regarding how to score a 700+ on the GMAT.

Feel free to reach out with any further questions.

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