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still not clear with the premise why reporter not be allowed to write headlines.Can someone clarify clearly what premise is saying.Could not understand the contrast in premise.Also how option E strenthens.I wonder word " clever" makes me lost i the argument and answer choice
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still not clear with the premise why reporter not be allowed to write headlines.Can someone clarify clearly what premise is saying.Could not understand the contrast in premise.Also how option E strenthens.I wonder word " clever" makes me lost i the argument and answer choice


Hi Sidagar,
Can you share your understanding of the argument so that one of us can see what you understand, and help you better ?

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here is my analysis

conclusion : editors should not allow reporters to write headlines

premise:even though headlines reporters write are clever , what typically makes them clever - lost as could not understand the meaning

would appreciate your analysis.Also is this from official guide 2018
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Hi Sidagar,

This is how I understood the argument.

Say an article on GMAT (published before 11th July) in a newspaper.

1) Headline: Will the new GMAT inflate scores?
Content: No new details but say statistics of scores in last 5 years

Clever headline without revealing anything much in the article

Option (E) The kind of headlines that newspaper editors want are those that anyone who has read a reporter's story in its entirety will recognize as clever.

Headline: Will the new GMAT inflate scores?
Content: Details on the options to choose sections.

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sidagar wrote:
here is my analysis

conclusion : editors should not allow reporters to write headlines

premise:even though headlines reporters write are clever , what typically makes them clever - lost as could not understand the meaning

would appreciate your analysis.Also is this from official guide 2018

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sidagar wrote:
here is my analysis

conclusion : editors should not allow reporters to write headlines

premise:even though headlines reporters write are clever , what typically makes them clever - lost as could not understand the meaning

would appreciate your analysis.Also is this from official guide 2018

The headlines that reporters themselves write are often clever. However, the headlines are only clever because they refer to little-known information that is familiar to the reporter. If that information is little-known AND if the reporter does not mention that information in the story, then we can infer that most readers will not know that information and thus will not appreciate the clever headlines.

Imagine that a physicist were to give a lecture to a classroom of students at a university. During the lecture, the physicist makes several jokes that would only be funny to someone working in the physicist's laboratory. Sure, the jokes might be funny, but none of the students would understand or appreciate the humor.

Similarly, the headlines written by the reporters are often clever, but most of the readers cannot understand or appreciate why they are clever even after reading the story. In other words, unless you happen to know the "little-known information" that the reporter knows, you will not recognize the headline as clever, even after reading the entire story.

Thus, if newspapers editors prefer headlines that can be recognized as clever by anyone who has read the story in its entirety (choice (E)), then newspaper editors should not allow reporters to write the headlines for their own stories.


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Understood why E is more appropriate than other options...but not able to reject option D.. can you throw some light...
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What makes headlines written by reporters clever is that they allude to little-known information that is familiar to the reporter but that never appears explicitly in the story itself.

In option E focus on the word 'entirety' .

Editors wants anyone who has read the story in full to recognize headlines as clever.

but headlines written by reporters often have missed information in the story.so,for people who read the story in full might not be able to relate the headline and the story.
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sidagar wrote:
still not clear with the premise why reporter not be allowed to write headlines.Can someone clarify clearly what premise is saying.Could not understand the contrast in premise.Also how option E strenthens.I wonder word " clever" makes me lost i the argument and answer choice


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Author here wants to say that though the reporters think they are writing "clever" headlines, those are actually not 'quite clever' as they miss out on critical info pieces.
Option E further re-affirms this need of Editors that the headlines should be "clever".

Hence, as per E, reporters should not be allowed to write headlines.

Hope this makes sense and helps! :)
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Understood why E is more appropriate than other options...but not able to reject option D.. can you throw some light...

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(D) For virtually any story that a reporter writes, there are at least a few people who know more about the story's subject matter than does the reporter.

Choice (D) does not provide any information suggesting that reporters should not be allowed to write headlines for their own stories, so it does not directly support the conclusion. Furthermore, Choice (D) does not tell us anything about the cleverness of reporters' headlines and thus does not strengthen the argument used in the passage.

Since choice (D) does not support the conclusion or the evidence cited in the passage, it can be eliminated.
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okay this is my reasoning .
Let's say a reporter writes an article that discusses mobile phones.
a clever title may be "" Is your mobile a smartphone or a superphone?
Now, you have bought a mid range full feature packed mobile such as MI or one-plus recently.
You know your phone has most of the features that are present in premium level phones; therefore,
you are intrigued by the heading .Clearly , since your phone compares to premium category phones
You just dive in to read a bit about your phone(( assuming that since my phone was in other good articles
, this article will add a bit to my knowledge)).
The embarrassment arrives , when the article discussed a few premium category phones maybe just
two of them such as Iphone or Samsung note series. The whole world knows they are full feature packed
phones and will be the first to be termed as superphone . Therefore , why choose this kind of headline.Clearly,
a WASTE OF TIME. The whole headline defeats its purpose .
Now here comes the role of statement E. If the article had a heading that made you read the story ,
and in the end you felt as you didn't waste your time reading the article as it truly fulfilled your inquisition
then its good and fair for all. Hence , you find the story clever and the title appropriate.
P.S. why is the title """ IS YOUR PHONE A SMARTPHONE OR SUPERPHONE """ clever
, because it clearly intends to encompass a larger audience.
HOW THE TITLE ALLUDES TO LESS KNOWLEDGE OF REPORTER , because the reporter clearly wanted to talk
to talk about premium phones not most of the phones.
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I narrowed this question down to B and E and ended up picking B over E

I negated B -> if one did not need a sufficient understanding of the story to write a clever headline, then anyone (including editors) could write a clever headline. This would weaken the conclusion if true. Therefore, the opposite would strengthen the conclusion. Further, the premise states that the clever headlines "allude to little-known information that is familiar to the reporter." Therefore, if one did not have knowledge of the story, how would one be able to write a clever headline?

I saw several people mention B as a weakener, not a strengthener. Can anyone care to elaborate further? Thanks
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I narrowed this question down to B and E and ended up picking B over E

I negated B -> if one did not need a sufficient understanding of the story to write a clever headline, then anyone (including editors) could write a clever headline. This would weaken the conclusion if true. Therefore, the opposite would strengthen the conclusion. Further, the premise states that the clever headlines "allude to little-known information that is familiar to the reporter." Therefore, if one did not have knowledge of the story, how would one be able to write a clever headline?

I saw several people mention B as a weakener, not a strengthener. Can anyone care to elaborate further? Thanks

First of all, just because negating a statement makes it a weakener, does not necessarily make that statement a strengthener. Regardless, the conclusion here is that "newspaper editors should not allow reporters to write the headlines for their own stories". The reason is NOT that reporters write clever headlines. The reason is that very few readers would be able to appreciate and understand those headlines, so the cleverness of the reporters' headlines would be wasted.

Saying that anyone can write clever headlines does not weaken the conclusion. If anything, it suggests that editors do not have to rely on the reporters themselves to write clever headlines. Choice (B) could potentially be seen as a weakener - you could argue that a reporter is more likely to have a sufficient understanding of the story and thus perhaps more capable of writing a clever headline. But that logic only really works if we assume that the headlines SHOULD be clever. If the headlines don't have to be clever, then such a "sufficient" understanding of the story might not be necessary to write an acceptable headline.

Refer to this post for an explanation of the correct answer.

I hope that helps!
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Newspaper editors should not allow reporters to write the headlines for their own stories. The reason for this is that, while the headlines that reporters themselves write are often clever, what typically makes them clever is that they allude to little-known information that is familiar to the reporter but that never appears explicitly in the story itself.


Which of the following, if true, most strengthens the argument?

(A) The reporter who writes a story is usually better placed than the reporters' editor is to judge what the story's most newsworthy features are.

(B) To write a headline that is clever, a person must have sufficient understanding of the story that the headline accompanies.

(C) Most reporters rarely bother to find out how other reporters have written stories and headlines about the same events that they themselves have covered.

(D) For virtually any story that a reporter writes, there are at least a few people who know more about the story's subject matter than does the reporter.

(E) The kind of headlines that newspaper editors want are those that anyone who has read a reporter's story in its entirety will recognize as clever.


Hi,
Can anyone break this argument in simpler terms and then discuss the options in detail.

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If that information is little-known AND if the reporter does not mention that information in the story, then we can infer that most readers will not know that information and thus will not appreciate the clever headlines.


How will the most readers not appreciate if the reporters do mention 'little known information'as a part of headlines and not mention in the story ?

What you wrote above makes me feel as you it is contrary to the information in stimulus(in quotes below). Please help me understand.

"what typically makes them clever is that they allude to little-known information that is familiar to the reporter but that never appears explicitly in the story itself."
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If that information is little-known AND if the reporter does not mention that information in the story, then we can infer that most readers will not know that information and thus will not appreciate the clever headlines.


How will the most readers not appreciate if the reporters do mention 'little known information'as a part of headlines and not mention in the story ?

What you wrote above makes me feel as you it is contrary to the information in stimulus(in quotes below). Please help me understand.

"what typically makes them clever is that they allude to little-known information that is familiar to the reporter but that never appears explicitly in the story itself."

Just because the headlines ALLUDE to the little known information does not mean that most readers will understand the headline.

Imagine that a physicist were to give a televised speech and make several clever jokes about string theory. In order to get the jokes, you have to understand string theory. However, most of the viewers do NOT understand string theory. So even though the jokes might be clever, the only people who get the jokes are the very few people who understand string theory. Just because the physicist ALLUDES to string theory in the speech does not mean that most people will suddenly understand string theory or the joke. And if the physicist never explains the relevant theory in the speech, then most people will listen to the speech without understanding any of the jokes.

Similarly, the headlines written by the reporters are often clever, but most of the readers cannot understand or appreciate why they are clever even after reading the story. They didn't know the necessary information before reading, and they don't know it after reading. In other words, unless you happen to already know the "little-known information" that the reporter knows, you will not recognize the headline as clever, even after reading the entire story.

I hope that helps!
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Newspaper editors should not allow reporters to write the headlines for their own stories. The reason for this is that, while the headlines that reporters themselves write are often clever, what typically makes them clever is that they allude to little-known information that is familiar to the reporter but that never appears explicitly in the story itself.


Which of the following, if true, most strengthens the argument?

(A) The reporter who writes a story is usually better placed than the reporters' editor is to judge what the story's most newsworthy features are.

(B) To write a headline that is clever, a person must have sufficient understanding of the story that the headline accompanies.

(C) Most reporters rarely bother to find out how other reporters have written stories and headlines about the same events that they themselves have covered.

(D) For virtually any story that a reporter writes, there are at least a few people who know more about the story's subject matter than does the reporter.

(E) The kind of headlines that newspaper editors want are those that anyone who has read a reporter's story in its entirety will recognize as clever.



It is E.
The argument states that the headlines that reporters themselves write are clever because they resort to little known information which does not appear explicitly in the story itself. The argument concludes by stating that newspaper editors should not allow this. Why should they not allow this ? Because a headline not representing the story is not something they want. What do they want ? Option E: they want those that anyone who has read the story completely can identify with , hence since their belief or requirement is contradictory to what newspaper reporters do..they should not allow it. Strengthens the conclusion.
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E strengthens the give argument by giving clarity of the news to the people reading it, along with the whole news

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adityapareshshah wrote:
Did not quiet understand the question and hence the answer too.

Can somebody please explain.


As per CR, reporters should not write their own headlines.
Why? Because they know intricate details that are not even mentioned in article

Answer E strengthens it by adding additional reason to support that reporters should not write their own headlines.



Answer E seems to be a total 180 degrees. It says that editors prefer such headlines ( the ones given by reporters). Correct me if I am wrong.
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Hi ,
Please provide official explanation .
My answer is wrong as per the OA given.
On second reading i got the answer.
The argument talks about headlines which can be understood by all who have read the story .
If only reporters write the headlines then , people who will read the headlines will not consider them clever or even worse will not be able to deduce them from the story.
So editors should write the headlines

Is my reasoning correct ?


This reasoning is the most correct in my opinion.

For example: A reporter covered a story where a very precious diamond of national heritage was stolen from International museum in United States. Being a reporter, he overheard the FBI agents at the crime scene talking that the diamond was stolen by N.Korea. Now imagine that the reporter writes the headline as "Can a diamond cause World War 3?" He already has raised curiosity in reader's mind with such a headline but unfortunately the story that he covered was published accurately and thus, had no mention of any such statement about world war.
Would not this allusion at the headline disappoint the readers after they have had read the entire story? As a result, the reputation of the newspaper company will be compromised. Hence the newspaper editors would want the kind of headlines that is appreciated or probably called as clever by the readers after they have had read the story.
In this case, headlines that the editors would want can probably be - "States loses a cultural heritage".
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(A) The reporter who writes a story is usually better placed than the reporters' editor is to judge what the story's most newsworthy features are.
Weakens

(B) To write a headline that is clever, a person must have sufficient understanding of the story that the headline accompanies.
Does not add anything relevant to the question

(C) Most reporters rarely bother to find out how other reporters have written stories and headlines about the same events that they themselves have covered.
Out of context

(D) For virtually any story that a reporter writes, there are at least a few people who know more about the story's subject matter than does the reporter.
Out of context

(E) The kind of headlines that newspaper editors want are those that anyone who has read a reporter's story in its entirety will recognize as clever.
Correct. The one who should judge the headline are the readers.
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Conclusion: Newspaper editors should not allow reporters to write the headlines for their own stories.

Premise: The reason for this is that, while the headlines that reporters themselves write are often clever, what typically makes them clever is that they allude to little-known information that is familiar to the reporter but that never appears explicitly in the story itself.

First let me explain why I rejected E:
E says "The kind of headlines that newspaper editors want are those that anyone who has read a reporter's story in its entirety will recognize as clever". From the argument we can see that the headlines are clever when "they allude to little-known information that is familiar to the reporter but that never appears explicitly in the story itself." So, this option means that the readers of the newspaper will be able to understand that the reporter has little information about the story and hence consider the headline to be "clever" and this is what the editor wants. This clearly weakens the argument because the editors would like to have headlines which do not "allude to little-known information that is familiar to the reporter but that never appears explicitly in the story itself.". This in a way weakens the argument.


I chose B and here's why:
Choice B says "To write a headline that is clever, a person must have sufficient understanding of the story that the headline accompanies.". Now we can clearly take this as an assumption to arrive at the conclusion. Though, again "clever" has been used here as well, it is compensated by the second part of the choice "a person must have sufficient understanding of the story that the headline accompanies". I believed that this is a better choice.

Please explain where am I going wrong
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